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Post by bobgoodman on Nov 24, 2023 12:32:16 GMT -6
Shotgun in short yardage never bothered me, Single Wing teams do it every snap and no one bats an eye And if they were running single wing plays, it wouldn't bother me either.
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Post by bobgoodman on Nov 21, 2023 9:55:37 GMT -6
Or you can have the RB get the snap. The end result is typically the same. Just get under center! But if that's the only part of your offense you do under center, then: - Either:
- you don't practice it much, and are therefore more likely to misexecute, or
- you spend too much practice time on plays that won't be used often.
- It's a tell. You may not care, thinking that even if everyone in the house knows it's coming, you ought to be able to get the yard/foot/inch you need, and that the other team can't be sure you don't have a play action pass you've never shown. But still.
Also, there are fewer "moving parts" to a play where the ball's snapped directly to the runner.
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Post by bobgoodman on Nov 20, 2023 22:30:40 GMT -6
Something that irritated the crap out of me was teams staying in gun in short yardage situations and running the ball by handing off to a back. It seemed to me that the vast majority of these plays got blown up. I would much prefer getting the QB under center in those situations so the RB can get a full head of steam. Or you can have the RB get the snap.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 18, 2023 13:15:49 GMT -6
From what I can see from the NRL Explainer, after the grab and twist, I'd imagine there to be many situations where the tackler than can't help but land with most of his weight on the lower extremities of the ballcarrier. And how is it any worse than tackling from behind around the waist and sliding down with one's shoulder landing on the thighs or legs without any preceding twisting of the ballcarrier?
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 18, 2023 13:05:36 GMT -6
Is it still as in the explainer here?
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 18, 2023 12:04:42 GMT -6
Could someone here post a link to video or at least a description of what's meant by this?
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 18, 2023 7:21:04 GMT -6
If you ever suspect opposing players aren't looking for the snap of the ball (Who hasn't complained about their own players jumping offside because they weren't?), certain sleeper plays become possible. The principle of such a play is to snap the ball and work it quickly and unobtrusively to an area where defenders aren't paying attention, while the rest of your players remain in their stance.
I had a sleeper version of jet sweep out of sidesaddle T in a fly offense, where a flanker routinely motions from one side of the formation to the other, brushing past the quarterback. Because the quarterback stands sidesaddle, it's easy for him to convey the ball via a reach-take to the motion back while hardly moving his own arms. Whoever's calling the signals -- it needn't be the the QB -- continues to a high count while the ball is long gone. I never called the play while I had it in, but someone I coached with that year went to another team and tried it on us. Because our players were watching for the snap, it didn't work.
The players close to the snapper will usually see the snap, but their teammates farther from the ball may have blinked and then have their sight of where the ball was obscured by their charging teammates on the DL, whom they think just jumped offside. This is especially handy in NCAA rules, where encroachment doesn't kill the play.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 16, 2023 17:18:13 GMT -6
100% depends what you already run. The best trick plays are based on plays that you run. And then it should be installed as part of the series and not saved as a rare trick.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 12, 2023 8:28:32 GMT -6
When training officials, I tell them over and over. It is okay to miss a call. But it is really bad to call something that isn't there. Out group is getting better because of this, but there are still a few that keep calling things. Even when shown the film each week. I think sometimes young or inexperienced officials feel that they need to call something sometime or they aren't doing their job rather than just administering the game as it happens. Is there pressure to make this particular call (interception) and signal quickly? I don't recall seeing it in a long time at any level, so maybe the mechanic has changed. When change of possession occurs during a live ball, offensive restrictions instantly apply to team B and defensive ones to team A. But I don't recall seeing officials in recent years point the arm at the instant an interception occurs, the way they used to; seems they now save it for dead ball to indicate "new series" only. If there is pressure to signal quickly, then it's very understandable that the call on the spot be a preliminary one that may be overruled.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 10, 2023 11:04:53 GMT -6
Damn it Bob...needed you Friday. Even my own team didn't get me that weekend. Week before at an away game, I tripped and fell on the sidewalk...felt like nothing at the time. Over the intervening week, the swelling of my leg just grew so that I had to skip our away game. And with the battery pack left by someone in the rain, I didn't even get HUDL of it! Still working on reducing the edema.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 10, 2023 10:52:51 GMT -6
Serious question...when things like this happen, why doesn't the crew chief just look it up? Yes, I know it might take some time. But, isn't that better than guessing or winging it and then getting it wrong? This is not a matter of looking it up, this is a matter of agreeing on the facts. One official sees the ball, another blows the whistle...was it in a player's possession or not? No book in the world's going to tell you the facts on the field.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 10, 2023 10:46:14 GMT -6
Help an old coach out. I'm pretty good at the rules...but this one...I need clarified. Our team was attempting to BLOCK a field goal (not a PAT). Here is the order of what happened. 1. Ball snapped and kicked 2. Ball is blocked. 3. Ball lands in the hands of one of my players about 8 yards down the field past the LOS. 4. As soon as the ball hits my players hands...an inadvertent whistle blows. After the commotion that I bring up because we should be allowed to return it. The referees tell me that since it is an inadvertent whistle the offensive team gets to "decide what they want to do". In this case...attempt to kick another field goal. I think this is total BS. Anyone help me out here? This is going to turn on what's meant by the parts I bolded and colored. Touching of the ball always precedes possession, but if the ball landed in his hands, that looks like instant possession. So the question is whether the player had possession at the time the whistle was blown, or had just touched and not yet secured the ball. The kick continues as a loose ball until it comes into a player's possession. An inadvertent whistle during that time results in the ruling you got. An inadvertent whistle after possession makes it team B's ball. Now I'm reading what you added later: That looks like possession, so the call you got was bogus.
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Post by bobgoodman on Oct 8, 2023 16:31:29 GMT -6
No. You can't lose a down you never had. Should've been 3rd.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 12, 2023 12:13:25 GMT -6
Tough to follow that one, but I was reminded of another one this weekend. 2012 was my first season at my current coaching job. We major in Power/Counter out of two-back gun and did back then as well. Not sure why "wide 9s" would have given us trouble but I guess they were on this particular night. Anyway, at halftime we're talking adjustments and our HC/OL coach was talking to his left tackle and asked him about the 9 techs. The left tackle gets an incredulous look on his face and responds, "9s?! They're WAAAAY out there! They're like 10s or 11s!" I've often thought that if some coaches didn't use the 2-digit numbers for linebacker techs, we could call it a 10 tech out there.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 7, 2023 6:24:16 GMT -6
So each of those years you played them twice, and the first game didn't knock either of you out but the second game did. Why should the second game count and the first one not? If you counted the games equally, wouldn't you then need a rubber game to decide between you? Well Bob, that just isn't how tournaments (which is what a playoff system is) work. I know, so why is there so much reliance on elimination tournaments to find a champion, instead of round robin play? There are too many entrants at the base of the playoff pyramid, and it doesn't have to be this way.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 6, 2023 21:27:43 GMT -6
We play our 4th game of the year this Friday. In Southern California everyone plays 10 regular season games, followed by a 16 team (so max 4 round) playoffs; of which about half the teams make it. So they play 10 games to knock out half the teams, and then they play single games to each knock out half the teams? What sense does that make? Still not as bad as the setup nndman described in Virginia, where between 2 regions they had 18 or 19 regions and knocked out only 4 or 5 teams by season play. I meant 18 or 19 teams.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 6, 2023 21:19:31 GMT -6
In 2005 we were unbeaten until a team that we'd beaten beat us in the playoffs then won states. In 2006 we returned the favor. So each of those years you played them twice, and the first game didn't knock either of you out but the second game did. Why should the second game count and the first one not? If you counted the games equally, wouldn't you then need a rubber game to decide between you?
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 6, 2023 21:15:23 GMT -6
We play our 4th game of the year this Friday. In Southern California everyone plays 10 regular season games, followed by a 16 team (so max 4 round) playoffs; of which about half the teams make it. So they play 10 games to knock out half the teams, and then they play single games to each knock out half the teams? What sense does that make? Still not as bad as the setup nndman described in Virginia, where between 2 regions they had 18 or 19 regions and knocked out only 4 or 5 teams by season play.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 6, 2023 15:40:46 GMT -6
Devil's advocate: If a team can't win its own league, why does it deserve a spot in a playoff to determine state championship?? Because some leagues are a lot better than some others. It's not always because of something as subjective as quality, either. Years ago only the four district winners in the region made the playoffs. District were determined by district record. Our district had 10 teams, another had five. So, a four-win team could make the playoffs while a 9-1 team was done. So one team has an easier qualification than another. So what? As to the also-rans, whether they were 2nd of 5 or 2nd of 10, there was still a 1st place team in each case. In the various rounds of playoffs, some teams will have an easier time than others too, but if A beats B, why should it matter how good B was? If playoffs are to reward performance in the regular season, why not substitute bowl games for those 2nd place teams? You could probably create some better matchups for them in bowls than in a championship tournament. If playoffs are to determine a champion, keep them simple even if "unfair". I'm not claiming playoffs are reproducible, producing the same outcome each time if you could re-run them. I'm just saying they're definitive, and admitting less-than-champions from the local circuit makes them less than definitive.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 6, 2023 12:41:17 GMT -6
Texas playoffs are too long. We let too many teams in, 4 from each district. When I was a kid, it was 3. Our older coaches were around when it was 2. I think it takes the value out of winning a district championship. Why should it have been more than 1? If the district has a champion, they're already supposed to be better than anyone else from that district, so why not eliminate the rest? Seems at least as good as using single elimination.
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 6, 2023 8:25:34 GMT -6
Is the season too long? IDK...... the kids play the game to play games. So why not add more games for the also-rans as well? In states that have a legitimate statewide championship based on knock-outs, there are usually more rounds played than would be the mathematic minimum required to determine a champion out of that many teams in the state. I don't see why teams that didn't win their local circuit's championship should be admitted, since one or more other teams have already proven themselves "better".
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Post by bobgoodman on Sept 4, 2023 13:22:32 GMT -6
I decided to take the MS Flag Football coaching job at the school I teach at. I’m used to 5v5 so when I learned that it is 8v8 I got thrown for a loop. Here are some of the rules for context QB cannot run Any formation is eligible Everyone is eligible to receive a pass Blocking is allowed but blockers cannot extend arms Also I learned from past players that most teams use OL and rush 3-4 players. I was considering treating it a little closer to traditional football but much more simplified. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated thanks. I take the above to mean the first player who receives the snap can't keep the ball and cross the line of scrimmage, and that you can have as few players on the line as you want. Wow, since there's apparently no rule against shoulder or body blocking, this looks tailor-made for a wedge-based offense! And also for the spreadest of spread offenses!
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 29, 2023 6:56:50 GMT -6
I have a friend who's a professional gambler on college football, always looking for a little edge, so he sometimes asks me questions. Recently he asked me about a certain change in player personnel on a major college team, as to whether the coach concerned would take advantage by playing an extra linebacker and taking a player out of the line, or vice versa. I told him that while at the level I coach we frequently adapt our systems heavily to the players we have, at the level of major colleges it's all about what the coaches are known and hired for, and that they recruit players to fit the coach's system, and would either try to hammer a square peg into the round hole they have, or bench him.
I think that as you gain experience coaching, you should pick up more than one system in your tool kit that you've become familiar enough with to choose between them in any given season based on the players you have. If you have enough experience scattered around your staff, you might want to shuffle the jobs to get into the right position an expert in the most suitable system for your players. I'm talking about a preseason meeting in which they'd all confer about the players expected to be available, and then have a coach say, "This group is near ideal for a system of [offense|defense] I know and would like to take charge of this fall. It goes like this...."
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Post by bobgoodman on Aug 19, 2023 12:14:50 GMT -6
Hey guys, does anyone have a particularly good way of making playbooks or position manuals? Computer programs? Power point? I'd like to find an online program where I can compile everything assistants need. Something I could hand to a new guy so he has the basics. You can do it all in Libre Office, which is free. If you search a bit you can find graphics of "guys" that I like better than Xs and Os that can be pasted into the diagrams. You can export it all into PDFs for printing or e-mail or Web distribution, though you may run into file size limits for e-mail that way. Last I saw, saving in recent Microsoft Word formats takes less space than the native Libre Office format.
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 29, 2023 22:01:37 GMT -6
Their rules on amateurism, which prohibited NIL payments. That's how they wound up in court. But they aren't currently prohibiting NIL payments, thats why they are getting paid right now and still amateurs. OK. But I'd rather be in a world with no antitrust law.
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 29, 2023 13:09:47 GMT -6
It was the NCAA member schools whose enforcement, or threat of enforcement, of rules on the subject that came under them. I didn't think the NCAA was enforcing anything in regards to NIL. Also, I thought they were only planning on making payment information open. What specifically are they trying to enforce? Their rules on amateurism, which prohibited NIL payments. That's how they wound up in court.
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 28, 2023 18:41:58 GMT -6
What I'm against is antitrust law, which is what this whole issue is based on. How does NIL violate anti trust laws? It was the NCAA member schools whose enforcement, or threat of enforcement, of rules on the subject that came under them.
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 28, 2023 7:12:23 GMT -6
Agreed. And now you have the social media crowd. How many high school and college age girls are making bank on a platform that was inconceivable when most of were that age? The Dunne girl at LSU would be anonymous if she had been a gymnast 20 years ago. It’s way too easy for these guys to make money now to limit them. The 19 year old USC freshman smokeshow can make money dancing on TikTok but the Heisman QB can’t cash in? Nonsense. I’m all for the players getting paid and having some leverage while hypocrite coaches making 7-8 figures working an extracurricular activity complain about it. It’s a two way street now. Yeah I don't really see anyone being against NIL, especially since the money isnt coming from the school. But the transfer portal as it is now should be changed, that is something the NCAA shouldve done a while back. What I'm against is antitrust law, which is what this whole issue is based on.
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 28, 2023 7:05:48 GMT -6
Any reason Delphi's forum on the subject isn't adequate? The Single Wing Forum there was great... it just kind of died off.
I go on every now and again... I post occasionally, but there isn't much action there anymore.
So why don't interested people here go there and produce action, rather than starting another venue? delphiforums.com/singlewingIt does have the drawback that you have to pay for access to archives more than 90 days old. There isn't much action there any more because it's all been there, written that, and it's in those archives.
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 25, 2023 9:54:45 GMT -6
Good morning, I have put together a new and so far relatively small group chat dedicated to the single wing. I am using the telegram app. If you are interested shoot me a DM and I'll share the invite link. Let's build a new secret society lol. Any reason Delphi's forum on the subject isn't adequate?
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