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Post by kylem56 on Nov 25, 2019 18:45:34 GMT -6
Coaches How much time do you give yourself away from the game once your season has ended? Yes I know there is a ton of wrap up stuff to do like equipment inventory, exit interviews, evaluations, etc. but once all that is done, do you give yourself time away? Do you steadily decrease or what? Our season ended Nov. 2, I just finished my 5th season as a HC, I still find myself watching our film, clinic film, making notes etc. for next year...I have a wife and 3 year old at home and some health issues to address but I feel like if I just all of the sudden stop working, we will not improve as a program...advice? normal?
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Post by cfoott on Nov 25, 2019 19:07:53 GMT -6
I'm an OC not a HC, so take it for what it's worth. I think.it depends on the season you have. Last year was a crazy, long grind. Had a lot of players that were a**holes, we made it to the section championship and we had wildfires that postponed the season for 3 weeks. I didn't look at a dang this for 2 months. Our season just ended this weekend and I dont feel nearly as drained. I feel like maybe after a couple weeks I'd be able to look at film.
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Post by kcbazooka on Nov 25, 2019 19:08:38 GMT -6
I do football stuff every day.. I can’t help it, it’s in my blood.
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Post by CS on Nov 25, 2019 19:32:11 GMT -6
I didn’t do anything football the day after. Sunday I started again
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Post by 60zgo on Nov 25, 2019 19:44:48 GMT -6
You are the HC. Your primary job is to build the program. This is a year-round process and there will be some aspect of the program you are working on almost daily. Could be scheme, technique, culture, weight room, fundraising, etc, etc.
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 25, 2019 20:18:18 GMT -6
When I was young I started the Monday after Thanksgiving. As I got older it got later and later. The last couple years we didn't start until after New Years.
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Post by wingtol on Nov 25, 2019 21:10:19 GMT -6
Are you working just to work, just to grind away? Quality over quality any day. I think all good coaches are in touch with the game year round and always peeking or doing but really is it that important a few weeks after the season has ended? Sit back enjoy the holidays and your kid, they grow up quick don’t want to miss it cause your watching week one from August for the fifth time chasing ghosts.
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Post by carookie on Nov 25, 2019 22:19:00 GMT -6
Week after the season ends we start off season workouts (weights, running, etc). Nothing is mandatory, but if you arent in anything else why not come & lift or run for 45 min?
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 25, 2019 22:55:06 GMT -6
I wonder how many coaches would stay out for football if they were expected/forced to partake in year round lifting and running/conditioning?
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Post by wildcatslbcoach24 on Nov 26, 2019 5:43:42 GMT -6
Coaches How much time do you give yourself away from the game once your season has ended? Yes I know there is a ton of wrap up stuff to do like equipment inventory, exit interviews, evaluations, etc. but once all that is done, do you give yourself time away? Do you steadily decrease or what? Our season ended Nov. 2, I just finished my 5th season as a HC, I still find myself watching our film, clinic film, making notes etc. for next year...I have a wife and 3 year old at home and some health issues to address but I feel like if I just all of the sudden stop working, we will not improve as a program...advice? normal? The intensity of the work ethic is very commendable, what about releasing a little more responsibilities to your assistants, especially OC/DC? Basically tell them what you want them to do or research and treat it like a jigsaw. Will save you time and let you tackle the health issues and have a family life. Y’all can meet once or twice a month for a beer and report out and get the research that way. It helps them learn in the process and develop skills as well. You’re not “grinding enough” you’re just being smarter about it especially if you are in the weight room after school regularly
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Post by wildcatslbcoach24 on Nov 26, 2019 5:43:55 GMT -6
Coaches How much time do you give yourself away from the game once your season has ended? Yes I know there is a ton of wrap up stuff to do like equipment inventory, exit interviews, evaluations, etc. but once all that is done, do you give yourself time away? Do you steadily decrease or what? Our season ended Nov. 2, I just finished my 5th season as a HC, I still find myself watching our film, clinic film, making notes etc. for next year...I have a wife and 3 year old at home and some health issues to address but I feel like if I just all of the sudden stop working, we will not improve as a program...advice? normal? The intensity of the work ethic is very commendable, what about releasing a little more responsibilities to your assistants, especially OC/DC? Basically tell them what you want them to do or research and treat it like a jigsaw. Will save you time and let you tackle the health issues and have a family life. Y’all can meet once or twice a month for a beer and report out and get the research that way. It helps them learn in the process and develop skills as well. You’re not “grinding enough” you’re just being smarter about it especially if you are in the weight room after school regularly
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 7:54:19 GMT -6
I never take time off, but i. I am available. Ill tell you that that thanks giving ill be around, participating, but football is in vicinity. I dont necessarily have to be at office in offseason. But i like going in, early am and ill log in to hudl and sit there with a notebook..and lots of times hudl is secondary and its reflect and think.
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Post by agap on Nov 26, 2019 8:07:26 GMT -6
It depends on what you mean by spending time away from football. I usually think about things we can fix everyday, but I don't necessarily have to login to Hudl and watch film to do that. I teach at a different school so it's difficult to go to weight lifting. Also, what are you supposed to do instead? Watch Netflix like everyone else? I would rather spend time on football than do most other things.
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Post by junior6589 on Nov 26, 2019 8:37:04 GMT -6
I have been breaking down our defensive film and doing some self-scouting pretty much from the 1st Monday we got done. I want to do it with the season still fresh in my mind. Learning a lot about how teams played us and some things I can refine for next year.
Weight room begins after the Thanksgiving holiday.
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Post by coachcb on Nov 26, 2019 9:07:50 GMT -6
Once laundry is done and inventory is taken, I start running the weight room after school. But, I honestly don't touch anything directly "football related" outside of this site for awhile.
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Post by mkuempel on Nov 26, 2019 9:10:53 GMT -6
It depends on what you mean by spending time away from football. I usually think about things we can fix everyday, but I don't necessarily have to login to Hudl and watch film to do that. I teach at a different school so it's difficult to go to weight lifting. Also, what are you supposed to do instead? Watch Netflix like everyone else? I would rather spend time on football than do most other things. I'm in this boat, I don't necessarily watch film or have a paper and pencil in hand, but I'm thinking about different things we can do to get better. I've gotten better over the years with separating family time from work time, but my kids are also becoming older and more involved in the work/sports time, so there is more crossover there as well, which makes my wife happier, my job and their interests coincide so when I'm home, I can be "more at home", as she says.
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Post by MICoach on Nov 26, 2019 9:33:54 GMT -6
Answered 3-4 months - I coach wrestling so that starts pretty much as soon as football is done, whether or not we're in the playoffs. By the time that is done I've been in-season for 7-8 months (10 if we count summer 7-on-7's and workouts) so I take a couple weeks to relax before showing up at after school workouts.
I'm not a HC or coordinator so I don't have any real football responsibilities until May. I'll go to 1-3 clinics in the spring.
I read CoachHuey or XandOLabs or HogFBChat or something similar probably every day, but not necessarily anything team related until May.
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Post by CanyonCoach on Nov 26, 2019 9:33:59 GMT -6
I take 2 weeks to get end of the season meetings, inventory, meetings with reps for recon of helmets, and general cleaning done and then we start winter weights program. Usually, start the Monday after Thanksgiving with winter stuff.
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Post by wolverine55 on Nov 26, 2019 9:37:12 GMT -6
I honestly won't spend much time on football outside of this site and our coaches group chat until the spring, but that is largely because I'm a freshmen basketball coach too. Now, in Iowa, you can get pretty much any film you want because of our Hudl sharing policies, so I will spend a lot of time this holiday weekend watching some film of similar schemes we've acquired. But, that is largely out of boredom more than anything!
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Post by 60zgo on Nov 26, 2019 10:02:20 GMT -6
I think the biggest thing in the off-season is don't take it home. On the weekends go be a dad and a husband. Read blogs, watch film and all that when the wife and kids are not around. Stay after school for an hour every day and study up on that RPO or get ideas from the "Culture Bros" on Twitter. Just set aside that block of time to get better and build your program but keep it away from the family.
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Post by jaydub66 on Nov 26, 2019 10:12:45 GMT -6
I just love football. I know your asking about family life and stuff like that which I am always there for my family so I make time during the season, but when the season is over, I still watch games and tape and help out in the weight room because I like, even if it's for 30 minutes to an hour, being around the kids and checking in on them and their mindsets.
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Post by blb on Nov 26, 2019 10:36:14 GMT -6
I always had inventory and reconditioning finished week after season ended, and next year's budget as soon after that as possible.
As far as after school strength training I did it both ways at one time or another - start after Thanksgiving (give everyone a break, state finals were played-season officially over, winter sports have a chance to get up and running) or after New Year's (literally a New Year for football). Don't think one way is better than other.
I usually would breakdown three films over Christmas break just to get a start on it (did rest over spring break and-or summer).
Tried to get all our coaches to state coaches' association clinic in January. Did not meet otherwise until after Signup meeting in May. Some coaches were busy with teaching and other sports, and some were non-faculty. Plus as I got older I developed a dislike for meetings so we kept them to a minimum.
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Post by veerwego on Nov 26, 2019 10:51:43 GMT -6
After the season we have a thank you dinner at one of sponsoring restaurants for our coaches and volunteers. Then, we had our banquet last week. We also starting our winter weight lifting program last Monday, so I am in the weight room 3-4 days week,1-3 times per day.
We are pushing a big recruiting effort in our halls, so dealing with that several days per week. Have met with all varsity coaches for end of season meetings. Finishing up with my OLs, hopefully today, for their exit meetings.
Have planned how I want to change our offense for next year. Have taken some deep looks into punt and kickoff teams.
Take notes while watching college games. Working on getting new headset system and also perhaps going to two TVs for HUDL sideline so OLs and skill can both watch at the same time.
Honestly, these few weeks since the season ended were busier than the last few weeks of the season. It basically doesn't stop and I am excited about next year, so it is all good.
When I go home for the night or the weekend, I rarely do anything. I will not do anything other than make a few notes from games I watch over the upcoming break. I do plan on doing some work over Christmas Break. I have been working on some leadership materials for myself and want to slim it down to something I can do with my staff starting in January.
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Post by aceback76 on Nov 26, 2019 10:55:06 GMT -6
None!
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Post by carookie on Nov 26, 2019 12:23:08 GMT -6
I wonder how many coaches would stay out for football if they were expected/forced to partake in year round lifting and running/conditioning? I lift and workout with the players all the time, despite my being old and multiple injuries. I developed my love for working out as a HS football player, and hope to offer that to my players. So i offer it ad soon as the season ends. We dont mandate it, and we dont get psycho in the weight room by yelling at the kids. And our turn rate is super high- consistently over 90% of available athletes. In fact a good number of non football players show up once the season ends (male & female). Moreover, we are probably over 50% turnout for graduating players. Why spend money on a gym membership when they have access to everything for free.
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Post by coachg13 on Nov 26, 2019 13:00:52 GMT -6
I don't think I can stay away for more than a few days.
I don't do anything "structured" so to speak.
Lot of watching film looking at individual players, what techniques work for them, what don't. What we did well, what we didn't. Just basically a big brainstorm session until we get back from winter break.
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Post by huddlehut on Nov 26, 2019 14:29:47 GMT -6
I'm fortunate enough to have already retired after 35 years...and I know that I have a much different perspective now, but if I had it to ask do over again, I'd spend a LOT less time than I did! I'm now getting to spend time with my grandson that I missed with my own kids because I was working...
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Post by carookie on Nov 26, 2019 15:16:45 GMT -6
Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I read all these posts about spending time involved in football, and how it prevents us from doing things with our family. I wonder why we can't do both?
In the offseason we are done with workouts by 4:15, I am home by 4:45....thats a lot earlier than most men get home from work. Is this not similar to how it is for others here? What part am I doing wrong?
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 26, 2019 15:22:25 GMT -6
I wonder how many coaches would stay out for football if they were expected/forced to partake in year round lifting and running/conditioning? I lift and workout with the players all the time, despite my being old and multiple injuries. I developed my love for working out as a HS football player, and hope to offer that to my players. So i offer it ad soon as the season ends. We dont mandate it, and we dont get psycho in the weight room by yelling at the kids. And our turn rate is super high- consistently over 90% of available athletes. In fact a good number of non football players show up once the season ends (male & female). Moreover, we are probably over 50% turnout for graduating players. Why spend money on a gym membership when they have access to everything for free. I know there's workout guys out there. I usually worked out harder than the kids. My point is, most guys that wear the no days off shirts and tell there kids its grnd szn probably couldn't run back to back 40s if you gave them an hour and as a player, probably went in, did bench and curls and left for the day once or twice a week.
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 26, 2019 15:24:22 GMT -6
I'm fortunate enough to have already retired after 35 years...and I know that I have a much different perspective now, but if I had it to ask do over again, I'd spend a LOT less time than I did! I'm now getting to spend time with my grandson that I missed with my own kids because I was working... Now that I'm out, I also realize how much time is completely thrown away by so many coaches just trying to keep up with the Joneses. It's so stupidly trivial.
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