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Post by bigmoot on May 11, 2018 7:06:56 GMT -6
Well, week 1 of spring is in the books and i'm reminded of a couple of famous quotes...
1. What do you think of your teams execution....I'm all for it.
2. We're small and weak, but we make up for it by being slow.
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Post by cwaltsmith on May 11, 2018 8:00:45 GMT -6
Spring can be frustrating.... Spring sports players not being there is biggest reason. Well that and you putting players into the fire some for the first time. I always try to tell myself during spring to remember that you arent preparing for a playoff game on Friday. As Aaron Rodgers would say... R-E-L-A-X... Try to remember, that anything you get accomplished in spring is a bonus. You don't have to be maxed out ready to play a real game. Test things out, see if kids can handle certain things. I try to always remember this quote..."Things are never as GOOD as they seem, but they are never as BAD as they seem either."
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Post by **** on May 11, 2018 8:03:18 GMT -6
Be grateful you have spring ball in the first place.
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Post by Beef on May 11, 2018 8:17:17 GMT -6
Be grateful you have spring ball in the first place. Real talk. I'd jump at the chance to actually get some install done right now, regardless of quality.
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Post by coachbdud on May 11, 2018 9:01:58 GMT -6
Only problem i am having now is these kids grades
some of them love HS so much they want it to be the best 5 years of their life
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Post by dytmook on May 11, 2018 9:36:58 GMT -6
What is this spring football you speak of?
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Post by wiscohscoach on May 11, 2018 10:18:13 GMT -6
We have spring futbol, but no spring football.
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Post by Defcord on May 11, 2018 10:29:40 GMT -6
Ours is going pretty well. There are a few frustrations.
1-We are a 1A school and our baseball team is playing in the state championship Saturday so we are missing multiple players from that. Including our starting QB. But hoping him not being there will help us prepare the next man up because the starter has played every game the last two years so having a back up plan will be nice.
2-We have a math teacher that loves math like all of us love football. He is give players 300 problems a week (in addition to normal classwork) they have to complete for a grad and he will only help kids on them during that tutoring session.
Other than those minor set backs, ours is going pretty smoothly. Our DC was going to install a 3 man front defense for next year and then he took a new job the day before we started and I got moved up. I am not completely familiar with the defense but it's actually really cool learning how things work in real practice setting without the pressure of a game on Friday.
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Post by fshamrock on May 11, 2018 10:31:56 GMT -6
Be grateful you have spring ball in the first place. eh...we can do it but elect not to, it seems cool and all but how often can you really just bang on your own team before it gets old you know what practice is like the week before a game that everybody knows you're going to win because its the worst team in the area? take that level of intensity and times that by 10 because you aren't just not getting ready for a weak opponent, you are getting ready for no opponent at all! You do get to install some stuff but most of it you are going back over in the fall anyway. No big loss to not have it
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Post by newhope on May 11, 2018 10:39:15 GMT -6
Be grateful you have spring ball in the first place. eh...we can do it but elect not to, it seems cool and all but how often can you really just bang on your own team before it gets old you know what practice is like the week before a game that everybody knows you're going to win because its the worst team in the area? take that level of intensity and times that by 10 because you aren't just not getting ready for a weak opponent, you are getting ready for no opponent at all! You do get to install some stuff but most of it you are going back over in the fall anyway. No big loss to not have it I have to disagree. Having spent many years without it, it's a great help to have it. We're limited--helmets, shoulder pads, no body to body contact and we only go 10 days. However, we get a lot done in terms of install and positions and our kids work hard. They love being out there in the spring and we do as well. By the time we hit August, we'll know who we have, we'll know what they can do (other than there may be one or two we're not sure of how they'll hit), and we'll have the basic stuff installed. We can then use the first few weeks of practice to tune things up rather than starting from scratch. How the kids work and how intense they are has a lot to do with how you approach practice. And, BTW, I've got very few complaints at this point. By this late in the spring, we've got almost everyone of our players out there and they're getting after it. Three days in and I'm pretty pleased with what I see--way ahead of a year ago.
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Post by ItalianStallion on May 11, 2018 10:43:24 GMT -6
I think spring ball is good if you are a new staff or installing new defense or offense. In Alabama, you can play a spring "game" or jamboree. Could be good to see some young guys get some work in a game setting. I think spring is also good to find out where guys can help you/versatility. I try not to put a whole lot of stock into how we look, but sometimes it's hard not to walk away from final spring practice and start praying for at least one win next fall.
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Post by coachddwebb on May 11, 2018 10:51:22 GMT -6
Our spring practices is going good as well. Our first week he had guys missing for track and baseball and the second week the same, but this week we have the track guys back. We have the young guys working technic against pads and doing a lot of install and getting them use to the speed and tempo of practice.
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Post by JoshC on May 11, 2018 10:52:50 GMT -6
eh...we can do it but elect not to, it seems cool and all but how often can you really just bang on your own team before it gets old you know what practice is like the week before a game that everybody knows you're going to win because its the worst team in the area? take that level of intensity and times that by 10 because you aren't just not getting ready for a weak opponent, you are getting ready for no opponent at all! You do get to install some stuff but most of it you are going back over in the fall anyway. No big loss to not have it I have to disagree. Having spent many years without it, it's a great help to have it. We're limited--helmets, shoulder pads, no body to body contact and we only go 10 days. However, we get a lot done in terms of install and positions and our kids work hard. They love being out there in the spring and we do as well. By the time we hit August, we'll know who we have, we'll know what they can do (other than there may be one or two we're not sure of how they'll hit), and we'll have the basic stuff installed. We can then use the first few weeks of practice to tune things up rather than starting from scratch. How the kids work and how intense they are has a lot to do with how you approach practice. And, BTW, I've got very few complaints at this point. By this late in the spring, we've got almost everyone of our players out there and they're getting after it. Three days in and I'm pretty pleased with what I see--way ahead of a year ago. I agree. We only get 5 days in T-Shirt and shorts, but it's still useful. Let's coaches get to know sophomores and other players new to the team. Plus it gives the new players a feel for what the team/sport is all about and see if it is something they want to commit to for the summer/fall.
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Post by fshamrock on May 11, 2018 11:16:58 GMT -6
eh...we can do it but elect not to, it seems cool and all but how often can you really just bang on your own team before it gets old you know what practice is like the week before a game that everybody knows you're going to win because its the worst team in the area? take that level of intensity and times that by 10 because you aren't just not getting ready for a weak opponent, you are getting ready for no opponent at all! You do get to install some stuff but most of it you are going back over in the fall anyway. No big loss to not have it I have to disagree. Having spent many years without it, it's a great help to have it. We're limited--helmets, shoulder pads, no body to body contact and we only go 10 days. However, we get a lot done in terms of install and positions and our kids work hard. They love being out there in the spring and we do as well. By the time we hit August, we'll know who we have, we'll know what they can do (other than there may be one or two we're not sure of how they'll hit), and we'll have the basic stuff installed. We can then use the first few weeks of practice to tune things up rather than starting from scratch. How the kids work and how intense they are has a lot to do with how you approach practice. And, BTW, I've got very few complaints at this point. By this late in the spring, we've got almost everyone of our players out there and they're getting after it. Three days in and I'm pretty pleased with what I see--way ahead of a year ago. you know what...that makes a ton of sense really we get 18 practices, so of course everybody is going to use all 18, but I bet it doesn't really start getting repetitive/boring until that last week or so. 10 practices, maybe less, is probably the sweet spot the part about spring ball that really kills me is how it turns into a d--- measuring contest between the coordinators because we are only going against each other.....I have sat in a meeting at 8pm on a tuesday trying to anticipate what our offense might do during the scrimmage tomorrow and what we are going to do about, even installing new stuff that we'll never use again just to try and gain an advantage over our own guys. "oh so that's how it is we're gonna bring a bunch of pressures on our first day of spring?" "what are we supposed to do just sit back and let you sling it around" "crap coach we're trying to work on timing" "well we need to work on pressures" "phuk you!" "phuk you!" later in the defensive meeting room.. "boys...check this chit out, we're gonna call it G8 summit because we're bringing 8 freaking dudes"
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Post by vanden48 on May 11, 2018 19:39:23 GMT -6
Only problem i am having now is these kids grades some of them love HS so much they want it to be the best 5 years of their life Hahaha thats because you teach in Antioch!!! When I was at Deer Valley Years ago I swear we needed a redshirt program.
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Post by rsmith627 on May 11, 2018 21:03:53 GMT -6
Only problem i am having now is these kids grades some of them love HS so much they want it to be the best 5 years of their life Gotta love that logic. Hey Johnny, why didn't you do my homework last night? Der...I hate Spanish coach, you know that. Well, you must really love Spanish 2 to want to have to take it twice...
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 11, 2018 21:11:40 GMT -6
Could be worse. You could be doing something else besides coaching the greatest team sport ever invented.
Remember in Goodfellas when Henry says “those goody-good people who worked sh**** jobs for bum paychecks were dead”? That’s how I feel about other people on campus stiff-arming kids to get to the parking lot after school while I’m going to the practice field.
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Post by coachbdud on May 11, 2018 22:15:20 GMT -6
Only problem i am having now is these kids grades some of them love HS so much they want it to be the best 5 years of their life Hahaha thats because you teach in Antioch!!! When I was at Deer Valley Years ago I swear we needed a redshirt program. i swear someone goes around to the middle schools and tells all the kids freshman year doesn't count/matter i am not joking... a dozen+ kids a year really tell me that
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Post by Defcord on May 12, 2018 4:01:30 GMT -6
Hahaha thats because you teach in Antioch!!! When I was at Deer Valley Years ago I swear we needed a redshirt program. i swear someone goes around to the middle schools and tells all the kids freshman year doesn't count/matter i am not joking... a dozen+ kids a year really tell me that That’s the worst advice ever too. We really try to emphasize getting all A’s freshmen year. In theory they are the easiest classes they will take, build a little cushion in case you get a tough class.
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Post by wingtol on May 12, 2018 9:52:13 GMT -6
Glad we don't have spring ball, I like to enjoy my summer and not worry about football till August. If we had spring ball I would be staring at the ceiling during the night all summer with what we have coming back this year...
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Post by wolverine55 on May 12, 2018 10:16:31 GMT -6
Glad we don't have spring ball, I like to enjoy my summer and not worry about football till August. If we had spring ball I would be staring at the ceiling during the night all summer with what we have coming back this year... I’m glad we don’t either, but that’s because between golf, tennis, track, and soccer all being spring sports in Iowa, we wouldn’t have enough kids left to make it worthwhile.
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Post by ItalianStallion on May 14, 2018 7:00:52 GMT -6
Glad we don't have spring ball, I like to enjoy my summer and not worry about football till August. If we had spring ball I would be staring at the ceiling during the night all summer with what we have coming back this year... Do you guys not have anything during the summer either?
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Post by wingtol on May 14, 2018 7:05:57 GMT -6
Glad we don't have spring ball, I like to enjoy my summer and not worry about football till August. If we had spring ball I would be staring at the ceiling during the night all summer with what we have coming back this year... Do you guys not have anything during the summer either? We have workouts three nights a week in July. Only helmets so not enough to keep me up at night...
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Post by IronmanFootball on May 14, 2018 7:18:44 GMT -6
Well, week 1 of spring is in the books and i'm reminded of a couple of famous quotes... 1. What do you think of your teams execution....I'm all for it. 2. We're small and weak, but we make up for it by being slow. I used to complain about being small, weak and slow and then I looked inward and realized my S&C program sucked. Made drastic changes to it and we were small, powerful, and quick
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Post by bigmoot on May 14, 2018 9:17:15 GMT -6
Well, week 1 of spring is in the books and i'm reminded of a couple of famous quotes... 1. What do you think of your teams execution....I'm all for it. 2. We're small and weak, but we make up for it by being slow. I used to complain about being small, weak and slow and then I looked inward and realized my S&C program sucked. Made drastic changes to it and we were small, powerful, and quick I know what you mean... In reality, we are small school with about half our roster for next year being freshmen. Our upper classmen are fine, just not alot of them so the overall perception is wee look like a glorified JV team. Well, we are based on the numbers.
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Post by IronmanFootball on May 14, 2018 11:13:04 GMT -6
I used to complain about being small, weak and slow and then I looked inward and realized my S&C program sucked. Made drastic changes to it and we were small, powerful, and quick I know what you mean... In reality, we are small school with about half our roster for next year being freshmen. Our upper classmen are fine, just not alot of them so the overall perception is wee look like a glorified JV team. Well, we are based on the numbers. I've been there. Had a team a few years back that of say 25 kids I think 18 were 9th/10th and 7 were 11th/12th (2 seniors) It sucked. We played a bunch of teams that had 25-30 upperclassmen. Finished 2-8 about 4 TD's from 5-5. Next year we were 7-4 after maturing but also changing up the S&C
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Post by fred on May 14, 2018 12:27:13 GMT -6
I have always thought I would like spring ball but wonder if our system 20 contact dates in summer isn't better because of the lack of conflict with other sports. Those of you have spring ball what does your summer look like
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Post by hammer66 on May 15, 2018 3:01:03 GMT -6
We have Spring Ball in PA no live contact. For us alot of times we may not have the kids we are counting on due to conflicts with other sports. This allows the younger kids to get a lot of reps and really get to learn the system. I find it to be valuable. Allows us to install all our BASE stuff without the pressure of preparing for a game. In the summer we work the kids on INDY all summer and some team work. Once the season starts we have one scrimmage and we start our season. So we really only have one week of DOUBLE sessions a scrimmage and one week to prep for the first game. Without all of the SPRING and SUMMER work there is no way we would be prepared for the season. One other caveat we have had kids come out to give football a try in SPRING that have decided it was for them and have helped us.
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Post by fadepattern on May 15, 2018 6:51:53 GMT -6
I have always thought I would like spring ball but wonder if our system 20 contact dates in summer isn't better because of the lack of conflict with other sports. Those of you have spring ball what does your summer look like We go back and forth each year on how much spring ball helps us. I think there is an obvious benefit for the kids that are available but we always have a large number involved in baseball/track/soccer so it can be challenging. In Tennessee you can now practice in June in no pads. We have 8 practices over the course of June and we use those 8 dates to reinstall everything we did over spring practice. Those June dates are very important to us in terms of being ready when July rolls around.
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Post by fantom on May 15, 2018 7:16:18 GMT -6
Be grateful you have spring ball in the first place. And, if you don't have spring ball, be careful what you wish for.
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