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Post by kcbazooka on Feb 7, 2006 14:32:45 GMT -6
never had one play for me but if the y could do the job, why not?
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Post by tye2021 on Feb 7, 2006 16:13:40 GMT -6
One of the schools I played against in high school had a girl playing for them as the starting TE. She caught a short dump pass and trucked our free safety for a 5 yard touchdown. If they have the ability and understand what it takes to play football let them play!
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Post by gmccown on Feb 7, 2006 17:43:58 GMT -6
As long as they meet the same standards and requirements as the guys...and don't intend to pomote a fem-nazi agenda and attempt to demasculate their male counterparts or the nature of the game, and they accept that this is violent and the male players will be required to treat them violently...okay. My only experience is watching a HS tryout where a girl came out for the team. She lasted two reps of the first drill playing scout Lber with the other fresh meat...she took her pads off their and left the field. All the way she was whining about how she didn't think the boys would hit her full out....what did she expect...some pc bs where she is allowed on the team because she is female and given a special program to help her self esteem...despite being slower and weaker than the rest? Not in this game...everywhere else...but not here.
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Post by saintrad on Feb 7, 2006 22:33:34 GMT -6
i have had several girls play for me, in fact one was good enough to be all conference DE, but being a sophomore AND a girl she didnt get it.... that year. She was all conference the next two and all state honorable mention as a senior.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Feb 7, 2006 23:21:45 GMT -6
I've had two girls play football while I was a head coach- one ended up being an All-American shot putter... she played through her soph. year (mostly as PAT/FG holder and in blowouts) then quit to focus on track and basketball (held for the PAT that won the state championship game). The other was a kicker... boys soccer was the same season as football, we needed a kicker, so we got a girls soccer player. All the guys complained until she hit a 32 yd. FG with under a minute to play in a game we won 23-21... I didn't get any more complaints. For the most part, I'll let any girl try- as long as she understands that she is expected to do the same as the guys (off season conditioning, weights class, etc... I did make exceptions for the kicker though...)
By the way, the kicker only got hit once- after a blocked PAT. One of our O-linemen who went on to have a good D II career pulled a "Jack Lambert- Cliff Harris" on the guy who hit her... if she wasn't accepted after the winning FG in week 1, she was by week 4 when this happened.
For what it's worth, I'm not in favor of girls in (boys) football nor (boys) wrestling..., but to fill a need, you do what you've got to do (don't like having a guy who goes out for spring golf start over a track guy... but he's better, works hard, etc., so he plays).
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Post by knighter on Feb 8, 2006 6:16:57 GMT -6
blutarsky-
she should have gone kathy ireland on the guy who hit her...
"Welcome to foot BALLS!"
brophy insert picture here! LOL
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Post by saintrad on Feb 8, 2006 8:34:54 GMT -6
Of course, if Diane Kruger was on the team i could think of some great gadget plays to distract the other team with.
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Post by knighter on Feb 8, 2006 9:33:31 GMT -6
And she would be my center...gotta work on snaps with the head coach! Shame on me, I know!
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Post by brophy on Feb 8, 2006 10:21:45 GMT -6
here's a thought.....what do you think of Girls Rugby leagues?
I've seen some halfway decent matches.
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Post by knighter on Feb 8, 2006 10:26:02 GMT -6
i know the uni women's rugby team was ROUGH and in a good way. they were all for beating the snot out of people, and on the plus slide doing naked beer slides at a party, which was nice sometimes (if she was hot)
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Post by crl on Feb 8, 2006 11:47:13 GMT -6
OK- alright boys time to suck up your privates....GIRL: But coach I don´t have any privates to suck up... PARENT: and the coach talked about sucking private parts...I want his a** fired. A year goes by. 1st interview, AD: ah Coach whats this about girls and BJ´s? Somebody just send Mr. Jihad over and kill me! This was not CRL but his evil twin who has stolen his password. And I don´t know who Mr. Mohamed is, but he must be nice cause he likes green and so do I.
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Post by brophy on Feb 8, 2006 11:50:41 GMT -6
what were we talking about again???
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Post by crl on Feb 8, 2006 11:52:17 GMT -6
she needs the Unitas look in the shoes... PS Senior B- loved the picture on the chalk board what a hoot!
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Post by knighter on Feb 8, 2006 12:15:52 GMT -6
brophy, she can play any position she wants at GH, immediate starter!
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Post by ttowntiger on Feb 8, 2006 15:12:22 GMT -6
Make them go through all the offseason workouts- work just as hard as the guys. If they make it through all that without quitting, they probably are serious and aren't just trying to "make a statement." But the odds of them making it are almost always slim to none. trust m, if they make it through all this, they deserve to be out there. If they don't need to be out ther, they won't make it long if you demand the same work you do of the guys.
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Post by shamespiral on Feb 8, 2006 19:42:43 GMT -6
Well last time I checked we still let 120 pound candy a$$es come out and play at our school, so I don't see a problem with girls playing either.
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Post by knighter on Feb 9, 2006 10:50:52 GMT -6
will trade you 3 120 pound candy asses for 1 overweight lazy turd...please call!
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Post by coachaaron on Feb 22, 2006 13:27:38 GMT -6
There are some pretty good reasons why girls should not play. Female athletes are much more likely (7-8x more likely) to have knee injuries than their male counter parts .. .studies have been done comparing male and female athletes competing in the same sports (Bball, Soccer, Track, etc) and these numbers are proven. Given the fact that the most common serious football injury is the knee, it seems like having female football players is a bad idea.
The other factor is that females do not have the same kind of muscular development in the neck and shoulder areas, thus leaving them more likely to have injuries in those areas that are often the first point of contact in football collisions. Furthermore, with less development in the neck and shoulders, their is less stability to the head in collisions, and therefore, more of a likelihood of concussions.
Now, I think their are plenty of females at the HS or youth ages that are athletic enough and tough enough to play with boys, but probably just not a good idea safty wise. Football is risky enough as it is, and then factor in the additional risks for females, and it just doesn't make sense.
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Post by saintrad on Feb 22, 2006 15:20:41 GMT -6
ahhh the male territorial approach returns...
in fact in those same articles they actually talk about the human body in general not being designed for the impacts that football creates. ALso, it states that the male brain is not able to with stand the pressures that a femaole brain can due to those pressures. basically, men are more prone to getting concussions than women are, BUT women are more likely to have major concussions though.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Feb 22, 2006 17:46:42 GMT -6
I say let'em play. Who cares- she might be good...Plus, who doesn't wanna drop some mouthy chick every once in a while? I'd freakin Night Train grandmama if she had the wrong color jersey on...
PS about the girl winning states in wrestling- don't you kinda feel bad for any guy that had to wrestle her- I mean what a No WIn situation for him to be in:
1) Win= Ridicule from friends "You really beat the hell out of her...wimp"
2) Lose= Ridicule and possible banning from hallways in school "Hey, close match- almost got her...hey my little sister wants to give you a shot at the title..."
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Post by gmccown on Feb 22, 2006 22:28:05 GMT -6
I keep waiting for some girls wrassler to sue her opponent for sexual harrassment. You know it will happen. Wrasslin with the girls in publick is a loose loose situation.
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Post by bulldog on Feb 23, 2006 1:54:49 GMT -6
I have coached girls at our school - and we had no problems. The latest - She was able to protect herself and could handle the contact, so no problem. Before we put on the pads, I pulled her aside and told her the reality of the contact part (this was her first year playing), and told her to talk with me if she had any problems. She did fine. In fact, in a tackling drill, she got under a boy who had like 8 years experience and put him on his ass. It was great. But it crushed the boy - he quit a week later.
I'm all for PLAYERS - any gender, or whatever. As long as they can protect themselves and can handle the contact.
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Post by brophy on Mar 9, 2006 10:45:38 GMT -6
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Post by JMC on Mar 9, 2006 11:26:07 GMT -6
We had a girl come out for the team one year, and I thought the coach handled it well. He said "she will do no more or no less than the guys." Had her a place to dress so she would not be late getting to practice, no one had a problem with it at first. However, I had her in my drills and found out that she was just trying to make a point. When coached she wouldn't even pay attention and just ignored you. She tried to duck out of everything and you could tell she just didn't care. After about 3 weeks of hiding she was put in at safety on the scout team. The backside T.E. crushed her about three times and she called it a career. I would have had no problem with her playing if she had wanted to play, but she was just there to get attention.
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Post by mike13 on Mar 10, 2006 9:05:50 GMT -6
I had a girl try to play last season. I use the word "try" because she did not have the skills to play. I walked on pins and needles the entire time. I was waiting for a sexual harrassment allegation or something like that. It is not a matter of ability it is a matter of dressing areas and travel.
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Post by racky on Mar 10, 2006 10:43:23 GMT -6
If they want to try out and they make the team same requirments as the boys let them.
I've had three, First was so fast at DT no one could stop her but she didn't have the weight to do more than slow down the runner.
Second one had the brain power and knew more about football than any of my other players (Three brothers) but really wasn't physical enough.
Third was my starting RG, & OLB 2nd most tackles, played to years and quite because not enough action... She is now boxing and yes she still turns the boys heads when she passes by.
As for all you guys that don't think girls can be physical enough to play or understand the game, you must be CITY boys, bucause in the country we grow them tough and mean.
Racky
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Post by texasokie on Mar 10, 2006 11:01:13 GMT -6
Two words...title IX. If her parents are pushing it, inform them of the possible negative outcomes, don't play her at center, and don't put her up against the best. My family likes to eat too much to fight it if it occurs. Will I like it? NO. Will I do it? No choice.
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 12, 2006 11:40:34 GMT -6
I actually had the pleasure of coaching a young lady on a Freshman team many years ago. She started at OLB in a 3/4 type of scheme, and she could stuff the kickout by the FB better than the other OLB. She was physical and coachable.
Unfortunately, it was the other things...not having a "locker room" experience, feeling different, etc. that caused her to not play the rest of her H.S. career.
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Post by pass2win on Mar 13, 2006 1:16:53 GMT -6
I can say that I have coached a girl on my HS football team. She was a very tiny female with a big kicking leg. As a sophomore she made a 30 yard FG in a varsity game. She was our varsity place kicker and JV kicker and place kicker. She went through all of the drills during indys. I say let them play as long as they are willing to do everything that you ask the boys to do.
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Post by Coach Shane on Mar 13, 2006 11:46:59 GMT -6
I have coached 4 girls at the High School level and one at the semi pro level each one worked harder than most of the boys. My wife also played football in High School Back up QB on J.V.
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