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Post by groundchuck on Apr 10, 2007 21:41:53 GMT -6
Suspend the thugs!
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Post by saintrad on Apr 10, 2007 23:23:48 GMT -6
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Post by crl on Apr 11, 2007 2:22:27 GMT -6
Hammer strikes the anvil
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Post by Yash on Apr 11, 2007 3:15:53 GMT -6
Heres the deal, innocent or not, their actions are portraying a negative impact on the NFL. Goodell wanted to send the message that, its not a right to play in the NFL its a privaledge, take it as such. This isn't tne NBA we aren't taking repeat offenders. Get your act together or get out.
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Post by coachdawhip on Apr 11, 2007 5:05:35 GMT -6
Suspend the thugs!
I can only speak for the one I know, "Jones" Not as much as a thug as you think he is, a misguided life, no one talks about any of the good things he has done esp. in the Nashville area, maybe that will come up one day, but I doubt it.
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Post by coachdawhip on Apr 11, 2007 5:08:07 GMT -6
Let me add didn't say he was innocent just said he is also not the person ESPN says he is. He is no more who ESPN says he is than Don Imus is a racist.
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Post by brophy on Apr 11, 2007 5:23:49 GMT -6
maybe folks will begin to realize the common denominator is alcohol.
The guy could be Mother Theresa, but his actions have become an embarassment to anyone calling themselves a "professional" player or coach.
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Post by coachcb on Apr 11, 2007 6:02:29 GMT -6
Now I hope he gets tossed in jail for a few months.
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Post by pantherpride91 on Apr 11, 2007 6:29:54 GMT -6
Living just outside cincy it makes me so pleased to see Henry get this punishment.....I love the bengals and I have been a fan even through the hard years but this guy is as big of a punk as you can get....The way he acts after the arrests along with the attitude and apperal he wears to court just shows his lack of respect to the situation...
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Post by wingt74 on Apr 11, 2007 7:27:17 GMT -6
Suspend the thugs!I can only speak for the one I know, "Jones" Not as much as a thug as you think he is, a misguided life, no one talks about any of the good things he has done esp. in the Nashville area, maybe that will come up one day, but I doubt it. Yeah, instead they talk about Tommy Urbanski...the guy who is paralyzed from the waist down because of Adam Jones. suspension won't matter. This dude is going away for a LONG time. |
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Post by wildcat on Apr 11, 2007 7:31:14 GMT -6
What about Tank Johnson? What's going to happen to him? Pac Man got slammed with a 1-year suspension and he has never done any time, right? Tank, on the other hand, is doing what? 6 months? My guess is that ol' Tank can expect to get at least what Pac Man got...
I like what Goodell is doing...it is his responsibility, first and foremost, to protect the NFL brand name which is the most valuable in all of pro sports. Remember what happened when the NBA allowed the thugs to take over? People tuned out and the NBA lost a lot of money. Looks like Goodell is not going to allow that to happen in the NFL.
Will be interesting to see how the NFLPA responds to this...IMO, it is in the best interest of the NFLPA to support Goodell and the NFL brass.
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Post by fort on Apr 11, 2007 7:39:35 GMT -6
I'm sure they'll appeal Pacman's suspension since he hasn't been convicted, but I think tossing him for the season was definitely the best thing to do. I think they should have given Henry a year as well. Henry probably has one more chance after this suspension; I don't think Pacman has any left. He screws up one more time, he could be gone for life.
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Post by superpower on Apr 11, 2007 8:04:05 GMT -6
I hope that young players see this and realize that there are consequences for making bad choices. For once the NFL is sending the right message.
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Post by pantherpride91 on Apr 11, 2007 8:04:58 GMT -6
Both of these guys came out of West Virginia University
Do you think this puts a bad mark on WVU or just a coincedence?
Both are great talents and does this show that WVU will take anyone as long as they can play ball
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 11, 2007 9:20:40 GMT -6
Glad they handed the punishments down. Pacman has virtually ruined all the good will the Titans built up since they moved to town. Nobody outside the area probably knows about it, but when the Titans first got to Tennessee and they were mediocre record wise they had a lot of good character people that were involved in the community. And they got a lot of publicity and good press for that and people were proud to be Titan fans because they were people you could root for win or lose. Now a days it seems like with Pacman's antics and Haynesworth's stomp on Gurode's head all the good reputation the Titans had built up is gone, not just in the Nashville area, but it seems like that's the way a lot of the nation sees them.
On a side note it pissed me off to watch the Titans let Travis Henry go and kepp Pacman around.
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Post by brophy on Apr 11, 2007 9:28:24 GMT -6
cripes, even the Titans mascot does drive-bys..........  +  |
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Post by flycoach on Apr 11, 2007 9:32:18 GMT -6
What about Tank Johnson? What's going to happen to him? Pac Man got slammed with a 1-year suspension and he has never done any time, right? Tank, on the other hand, is doing what? 6 months? My guess is that ol' Tank can expect to get at least what Pac Man got... I like what Goodell is doing...it is his responsibility, first and foremost, to protect the NFL brand name which is the most valuable in all of pro sports. Remember what happened when the NBA allowed the thugs to take over? People tuned out and the NBA lost a lot of money. Looks like Goodell is not going to allow that to happen in the NFL. Will be interesting to see how the NFLPA responds to this...IMO, it is in the best interest of the NFLPA to support Goodell and the NFL brass. Yesterday they said that a "formal meeting" will be set up once he gets out of jail and that he would most likely be missing at least Henry's suspension. |
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Post by under on Apr 11, 2007 9:34:09 GMT -6
I think it speaks volumes of Rich Rodriquez and his staff that they could keep these two thugs out of trouble in Morgantown - much less eligible. ;D
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Post by splitricky5 on Apr 11, 2007 11:18:56 GMT -6
I am thrilled to see a no-nonsense approach (finally) with stupid things like this. If I have five arrests in a year, what will happen to me, regardless of my job performance? I would be canned immediately (and I am like the high school teacher's equivilant to a 4.3 running, interception machine). It is time to say enough and push some gentlemen to carry themselves a little better. Regardless of how much good anyone has done, you have to maintain a standard to some degree.
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Post by knight9299 on Apr 11, 2007 12:53:00 GMT -6
I think it speaks volumes of Rich Rodriquez and his staff that they could keep these two thugs out of trouble in Morgantown - much less eligible. ;D I was wondering about this. This behavior just doesn't rear it's head once they hit the pros. How are the big football factory schools contributing to this kind of behavior? The same line of thought could follow with high schools. |
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Post by wingt74 on Apr 11, 2007 14:19:46 GMT -6
I think it speaks volumes of Rich Rodriquez and his staff that they could keep these two thugs out of trouble in Morgantown - much less eligible. ;D I was wondering about this. This behavior just doesn't rear it's head once they hit the pros. How are the big football factory schools contributing to this kind of behavior? The same line of thought could follow with high schools. It's not like these kids are good kids before they hit college...you just only hear about their arrests once they become famous. |
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Post by oldcap8 on Apr 11, 2007 14:25:35 GMT -6
I'm for a tougher stands and the new policy, but...they have to tweak it though. See, with the NFL taking disciplinary action before the judicial system, every time a NFL player leaves his home he will be extremely very venerable. Example: Under the new policy
(by not waiting for the judicial system to run it’s course) all someone has to do is accuse you of wrong doing and you are looking at missing game time and game checks….If someone tells a NFL player who brings home after taxes 1.6 million, pay me $100 thousand dollars or I will tell the authorities you assaulted me, what would be his options:
A) Let them file a report and get a 4 game suspension right off the bat and lose $400 thousand dollars or
B) Paid the exhorter and save himself $300 thousand dollars…
I know I may be over simplifying this, but in my opinion it is very possible…
And if we haven’t learned anything from the Duke Lacrosse case, we learned that….
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Post by wingtol on Apr 11, 2007 14:43:54 GMT -6
I think it speaks volumes of Rich Rodriquez and his staff that they could keep these two thugs out of trouble in Morgantown - much less eligible. ;D If memory serves me right didn't pacman get suspended at WVU for beating another student with a pool cue in the student union. There have always been alot of rumblings in this part of the country esp around pittsburgh about the character of some of the WVU coaches and they way they recruit. If I am not mistaken one of their top recruits this year is in the middle of legal trouble. I know people will say that is the way it is at many schools but where there's smoke... |
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Post by Yash on Apr 11, 2007 15:14:39 GMT -6
well before we say, that people are going to be bribed or face suspension, realize that it wasn't a one time incident for either of these to. Jones has had 10 run ins over the past 2 years. this wasn't a one time incident. Henry has been arrested multiple times as well. so i don't think that its off base in what they are doing.
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Post by coachdawhip on Apr 11, 2007 16:40:52 GMT -6
Pacman Jones was committed to Georgia Tech. His grandmother passed he decided he couldn't manage to stay in Atlanta so he ran up to Morgantown. He wasn't trouble free up there. This is good for Adam it will help him re-assess his life and his friends. I still think the media does a great job of painting people they way they want us to see them.
If Jones got a year, Johnson should get a year in a half.
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Post by oldcap8 on Apr 11, 2007 18:43:09 GMT -6
Tom:
Example… didn’t Jerome Bettis, the face of the Pittsburgh Steelers (My Favorite Team) get accused of sexual assault about three or four years ago, of course they found out he was being exhorted for money, but under the new policy how would that play out,? Suspend now ask questions later… So now, by removing the burden of guilt, all someone has to do is make an accusation, file a police report and players are missing game checks. Pro athletes are already targets…now it just got easier…
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Post by wingman on Apr 11, 2007 18:57:55 GMT -6
Bettis is a bad example. His accusal was a first time accusation. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. Jones and Henry had one incident after another. Their suspensions are the equivalent of career achievement awards.
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Post by groundchuck on Apr 11, 2007 19:03:55 GMT -6
Tom: Example… didn’t Jerome Bettis, the face of the Pittsburgh Steelers (My Favorite Team) get accused of sexual assault about three or four years ago, of course they found out he was being exhorted for money, but under the new policy how would that play out,? Suspend now ask questions later… So now, by removing the burden of guilt, all someone has to do is make an accusation, file a police report and players are missing game checks. Pro athletes are already targets…now it just got easier… I think if you look at the PacMan scenario didn't he have like 14 run ins with the law in a year or something like that? There is a difference between a law abiding citizen with who gets wrongly accused of a crime and a habitual offender. Apparently Jones has a problem. |
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Post by oldcap8 on Apr 11, 2007 19:36:39 GMT -6
So what does the policy say...is it repeat offenders or ANYONE how has a police report filed against them? That is my question, by not waiting for due process, what happens if the accusations are faults?
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Post by wildcat on Apr 12, 2007 4:49:26 GMT -6
So what does the policy say...is it repeat offenders or ANYONE how has a police report filed against them? That is my question, by not waiting for due process, what happens if the accusations are faults? oldcap - The actions taken against guys like Jones and Henry are worst-case, last-chance measures. Both of these guys have had numerous run-ins with the law and, in the case of Jones, he still might be doing some hard time by the time his adventure with the legal system is over. That's why I don't think a player being harrassed or a player who gets a speeding ticket has to worry...this new policy is directed towards guys who have demonstrated a long and consistent inability to follow the rules and laws of society. |
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