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Post by splitricky5 on Apr 12, 2007 6:42:47 GMT -6
Am I wrong, or were there convictions in several of those cases against Pacman Jones? I know the one is still being investigated, but I thought the other ones are over and done with.
My point in my earlier post is this, if I am arrested FIVE times for whatever reason, right or wrong, as a teacher, I WILL BE FIRED. I understand the whole vulnerability factor, but that comes with the spotlight. How many times are people in the spotlight accused of various things that they didn't do? That is where the commissioner needs to view each case separately, but with these guys, there is a history of not doing the right thing. Five arrests in one year?? That's pushing the envelope just a wee bit IMO.
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Post by oldcap8 on Apr 12, 2007 8:42:18 GMT -6
splitricky5 I understand your point , as a teacher YOU would be fired ...but what about as a Hollywood Actor or as a Rock Star would you be fired ? It's two different worlds...All I hear is he has been interviewed by the police 10 times...I don't know if there were any convictions, if what I understand, with the new policy you don't have to be convicted to be suspened.
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Post by wildcat on Apr 12, 2007 8:54:43 GMT -6
In the case of Jones, I would be willing to say "where there is A LOT of smoke, there probably is at least ENOUGH fire" for Goodell to do what he did.
Again, we aren't talking about a guy who got a speeding ticket...we are talking about a guy who has a LONG history of CONSISTENTLY being in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people.
What is Goodell supposed to do? What until Jones or the people he hangs out with kills someone? Heck...that almost happened, didn't it?
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Post by brophy on Apr 12, 2007 9:03:53 GMT -6
Terry Johnson, when he gets out, should be sitting for for the entire year as well to remain consistent. This is a guy with a cache of weapons and a couple of run-ins with the law already (a charge of intimidation/assault on a DuPage officer was dropped in November).....not to mention his off-the-field lifestyle of Biggy Smalls. Bears knew they were taking a gamble when they reached for him in the 2nd round. I see where one social pimp has expressed parallels of injustice / double-standards between Adam Jones and Don Imus....... oh, brother.
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Post by oldcap8 on Apr 12, 2007 9:14:17 GMT -6
Back to my original question...is it Zero tolerence (a charge or police report equate to suspension, even without a conviction) or do you have to be convicted of a crime first. Or is it up to the discreation of the commissioner?
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Post by brophy on Apr 12, 2007 9:19:50 GMT -6
that would be determined by language drafted in an amended CBA after approval from the NFLPA (in other words, a while).
But based on these statements; "We must protect the integrity of the NFL,the highest standards of conduct must be met by everyone in the NFL because it is a privilege to represent the NFL, not a right. These players, and all members of our league, have to make the right choices and decisions in their conduct on a consistent basis."
Regarding Jones; "Your conduct has brought embarrassment and ridicule upon yourself, your club, and the NFL, and has damaged the reputation of players throughout the league. You have put in jeopardy an otherwise promising NFL career, and have risked both your own safety and the safety of others through your off-field actions. In each of these respects, you have engaged in conduct detrimental to the NFL and failed to live up to the standards expected of NFL players. Taken as a whole, this conduct warrants significant sanction."
CONDUCT DETRIMENTAL....
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Post by wingt74 on Apr 12, 2007 13:14:20 GMT -6
Regarding Jones; "Your conduct has brought embarrassment and ridicule upon yourself, your club, and the NFL,...
Basically, the NFL is taking the stance of "We are the judge, jury, and executioner. Like it, or get the hell out"
Innocent until proven guilty...for jail time only. NFL decides much quicker someone's guilt.
Now the question is, what if Adam Jones is found not guilty?
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Post by oldcap8 on Apr 12, 2007 20:14:25 GMT -6
It doesn't matter ....he has already been sentenced (suspended)...
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Post by coachweav88 on Apr 16, 2007 8:51:30 GMT -6
As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his foolishness
Proverbs 26:11
right on.
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Post by brophy on Apr 16, 2007 9:19:16 GMT -6
apparently the Don Imus situation has been able to directly tie the acquittal of the Duke LaCrosse players and the suspension of PacMan Jones...... I'm really not sure how ANY OF THIS is related, but Outside the Lines on ESPN Sunday morning tied it together like it was the equivalent of the Rodney King officer acquittals..... I'm really not sure how you associate those two, but uh....okay...
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