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Post by coachkeppy on Jan 20, 2008 22:14:17 GMT -6
How many calls really made a difference in this NFC Championship game? Honestly the better team didn't win and there were clearly bad calls going against the home team. This obviously l eads to some major questions. How corrupt is NFL officiating? Why would they make it so obvious that they were bias against one team? And the home team at that? I truely believe that officials really shouldnt make that big of a difference in a game, but these guys insisted on doing that.
This game was comparable to that Pats/Ravens game. They didn't care that it was obviously showing their bias by throwing that flag on 4th down.
This game was a joke, and this league and it's officiating has turned into the NBA. Im sick of it, and I will not watch the super Bowl. what a crappy game. I m sure Goodell has the outcome figured out already anyways.
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Post by cjkal30 on Jan 20, 2008 22:26:58 GMT -6
I take it you are a Packers Fan? What bad calls! Giants made great plays when it counts and if you are going to give a Kicker 3 times then you are in trouble. Look at the stats! Time of Possession 40.01 to 22:34....TO's 1 NYG 2 for GB....penalties NYG 6-50yds GB 7-37...Whats the problem?  ?? NYG more passing and rushing yds so how did the better team not win and how were the Packers robbed? ? STATS DON'T LIE!!!!!! |
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Post by gregspahn on Jan 20, 2008 22:30:01 GMT -6
I'm about as big a Packer fan as there is and I DON'T see how the stripes cost Green Bay the game.
Did the officials make Nick Collins hit Eli Manning late, drawing a flag on a play that would have ended a drive that the Giants scored on?
Did the officials NOT run the ball at all today?
Did the officials drop passes?
Did the officials throw an interception in OT?
Did the officials miss some calls? Yes on both sides. Did they make questionable calls? Yes on both sides.(Woodson penalty on 4th down, Holding on the Giants that Bradshaw scored on)
The officials did not cost the Packers the game and they were not biased. Is there a rule that says you cannot commit a penalty on 4th down?
Whining will get you nowhere.
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Post by coachkeppy on Jan 20, 2008 22:30:46 GMT -6
I have a major problem with the 4th down debateable interference call.
I have a major problem with roughing the passer penalty.
Those led to TDs. Obviously McCarthy had to coach the game differently .
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Post by coachkeppy on Jan 20, 2008 22:32:19 GMT -6
What could Collins have done? HE was coming full speed, there is no way he could have just shut it off at that point. That was not a roughing the QB.
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Post by cjkal30 on Jan 20, 2008 22:35:55 GMT -6
Watch the film again he took 3 steps after eli got rid of the ball....look again at the stats!!!!
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 20, 2008 22:36:03 GMT -6
How many calls really made a difference in this NFC Championship game? Honestly the better team didn't win and there were clearly bad calls going against the home team. This obviously l eads to some major questions. How corrupt is NFL officiating? Why would they make it so obvious that they were bias against one team? And the home team at that? I truely believe that officials really shouldnt make that big of a difference in a game, but these guys insisted on doing that. This game was comparable to that Pats/Ravens game. They didn't care that it was obviously showing their bias by throwing that flag on 4th down. This game was a joke, and this league and it's officiating has turned into the NBA. Im sick of it, and I will not watch the super Bowl. what a crappy game. I m sure Goodell has the outcome figured out already anyways. So exactly which rules should the officials enforce? When should they not enforce rules....if officials aer not to call penalties on 4th down, why isn't that written in the rules? I have never understood this foolish mentality. The "you don't call that at this time" whining. Please tell us..WHEN should the rules be enforced..and when should they NOT |
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Post by coachkeppy on Jan 20, 2008 22:36:26 GMT -6
I take it you are a Packers Fan? What bad calls! Giants made great plays when it counts and if you are going to give a Kicker 3 times then you are in trouble. Look at the stats! Time of Possession 40.01 to 22:34....TO's 1 NYG 2 for GB....penalties NYG 6-50yds GB 7-37...Whats the problem? ?? NYG more passing and rushing yds so how did the better team not win and how were the Packers robbed? ? STATS DON'T LIE!!!!!! Typical box score watcher. The stats did not tell the story of this game. Those stats would be different if the game was called correctly. |
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Post by ticobrown on Jan 20, 2008 22:37:34 GMT -6
I guess you missed Donald Driver THROWING Corey Webster to the ground at the LOS so that he can catch his 90 yard TD pass. You may have also missed Green Bay's #65 taking down players left and right as if he's wrestling for the Gold Medal, as well as driving his hands into Strahan's facemask. And do you want to show me when/where Chris Snee held on that play when Ahmad Bradshaw had his 47 yard TD run erased on a BULL$$$$ Holding call.
Admit it, officiating was PUTRID against both teams and personally, I thought that they was going to hand the NFC Trophy to Favre themselves.
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Post by coachkeppy on Jan 20, 2008 22:37:58 GMT -6
How many calls really made a difference in this NFC Championship game? Honestly the better team didn't win and there were clearly bad calls going against the home team. This obviously l eads to some major questions. How corrupt is NFL officiating? Why would they make it so obvious that they were bias against one team? And the home team at that? I truely believe that officials really shouldnt make that big of a difference in a game, but these guys insisted on doing that. This game was comparable to that Pats/Ravens game. They didn't care that it was obviously showing their bias by throwing that flag on 4th down. This game was a joke, and this league and it's officiating has turned into the NBA. Im sick of it, and I will not watch the super Bowl. what a crappy game. I m sure Goodell has the outcome figured out already anyways. So exactly which rules should the officials enforce? When should they not enforce rules....if officials aer not to call penalties on 4th down, why isn't that written in the rules? I have never understood this foolish mentality. The "you don't call that at this time" whining. Please tell us..WHEN should the rules be enforced..and when should they NOT I wasn't saying you don't make the call on 4th down. I was saying, you don't make a BAD call on 4th down. It clearly was not interference. and you 'd better be sure it is. That guy clearly was not sure, which was why he was so hesitant to throw the flag. He was wrong. which made it a bad call. |
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Post by Coach Huey on Jan 20, 2008 22:39:42 GMT -6
... The stats did not tell the story of this game. ... Ok ... that may be the case. Likewise, I hope this thread doesn't tell the whole story regarding you. I feel your pain, can even understand your frustration. But, maybe it's better if those things were left unsaid. |
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Post by coachkeppy on Jan 20, 2008 22:41:19 GMT -6
I guess you missed Donald Driver THROWING Corey Webster to the ground at the LOS so that he can catch his 90 yard TD run. You may have also missed #65 taking down players left and right as if he's wrestling for the Gold Medal, as well as driving his hands into Strahan's facemask. And do you want to show me when/where Chris Snee held on that play where Ahmad Bradshaw had his 47 yard TD run erased on a BULL$$$$ Holding call. Admit it, officiating was PUTRID against both teams and personally, I thought that they was going to hand the NFC Trophy to Favre themselves. Seriously? You re going to make stuff up like that? You think Driver did something illegal on that play? In this world of offensive dominated officiating? If anything it was illegal contact which they decided not to call on that play. The illegal contact penaly has made this game the subjective officiating joke that it has become. |
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Post by gregspahn on Jan 20, 2008 22:42:31 GMT -6
The Packers deserved better than to have people making excuses as to why they lost. They were beat. They did not do the things they needed to do to win the game. There is no officiating conspiracy. All you are doing is cheapening their accomplishments this season.
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Post by cjkal30 on Jan 20, 2008 22:43:08 GMT -6
The reason he was hesitant to throw the flag was because he was probably caught of guard after the receiver was mauled the ball was tipped and caught!!!
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Post by coachkeppy on Jan 20, 2008 22:45:14 GMT -6
The Packers deserved better than to have people making excuses as to why they lost. They were beat. They did not do the things they needed to do to win the game. There is no officiating conspiracy. All you are doing is cheapening their accomplishments this season. Okay, we'll just ignore all of those questionable, very favorable drive saving, touchdown causing calls. you're right though, let's cheapen the season...the Giants deserve to be there. the same Giants who lost to the Vikings and Redskins in horrible fashion. Guys, call it a conspiracy theory, say what you will. The officiating did decide the game. It has happened on more than one occasion. |
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Post by gregspahn on Jan 20, 2008 22:49:57 GMT -6
It doesnt matter that they lost to the Vikings and the Redskins. It matters that they beat the Packers. Just like it doesnt matter that the Packers beat the Giants in Week 2. They were outplayed today and they lost.
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Post by cjkal30 on Jan 20, 2008 22:50:57 GMT -6
They were consistent when it mattered...It doesn't mean they are the best team in the NFC this yr, but they are playing the best football in the NFC....Obviously at this point...It doesn't matter that they lost to minn. or wash in wks 12 or 15 or what ever but that they beat the Bucs, the BOYS, and GB in the Playoffs...I am sorry if you are bitter but the fact is they played the pats in the last week of the season and took them to the wire so even though they may not be the best team they may be Superbowls champs if the Refs. are that bad in AZ
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Post by ticobrown on Jan 20, 2008 22:52:41 GMT -6
Seriously? You re going to make stuff up like that? You think Driver did something illegal on that play? In this world of offensive dominated officiating? If anything it was illegal contact which they decided not to call on that play. The illegal contact penaly has made this game the subjective officiating joke that it has become. All I'm going to say is to check your DVR, Youtube, or whatever you watch and check that replay again. If that wasn't a throwdown by Driver, then Tom Coughlin's face wasn't as red as pepperoni tonight. At least you didn't comment on #65 or on the Chris Snee's PHANTOM holding penalty. |
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 20, 2008 22:52:49 GMT -6
Actually, if the NFL was to chose who they wanted in the super bowl they would definitly want a Favre Vs. Brady match-up. I watched the whole game and didn't see any calls that were "bad". There were calls that hurt both teams throughout the game. That personal foul penalty on the giants when Green bay would have had a 4th down ended ina TD for Green Bay and I thought it should have been off setting so calls went both ways.
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Post by coachkeppy on Jan 20, 2008 22:54:59 GMT -6
no, it was very inconsistent officiating, and with an obvious bias.
Would you yell at your kid for the Collins hit on the QB?
No, obviously not, it was a good hit on a QB.
Would you yell at your kid if he was Woodsen on the 4th down play?
No, he has the right to the ball.
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Post by Coach Huey on Jan 20, 2008 22:58:57 GMT -6
whatever helps you sleep tonight...
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Post by ticobrown on Jan 20, 2008 23:00:32 GMT -6
no, it was very inconsistent officiating, and with an obvious bias.
Would you yell at your kid for the Collins hit on the QB?
No, obviously not, it was a good hit on a QB.
If you call taking three steps to hit the QB after the throw a good hit.
Would you yell at your kid if he was Woodsen on the 4th down play?
No, he has the right to the ball.
True, but he also grabbed Toomer by the shoulder and throw him to the ground as well.
Like I said, you may have to watch the game again and see it for yourself after the fact.
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Post by ticobrown on Jan 20, 2008 23:02:47 GMT -6
Actually, if the NFL was to chose who they wanted in the super bowl they would definitly want a Favre Vs. Brady match-up.... I'm assuming that Fox wanted that matchup as well. You noticed Aikman and Buck sounded like JFK got shot when Tynes finally kicked a FG through the uprights? |
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Post by coachkeppy on Jan 20, 2008 23:03:28 GMT -6
Seriously? You re going to make stuff up like that? You think Driver did something illegal on that play? In this world of offensive dominated officiating? If anything it was illegal contact which they decided not to call on that play. The illegal contact penaly has made this game the subjective officiating joke that it has become. All I'm going to say is to check your DVR, Youtube, or whatever you watch and check that replay again. If that wasn't a throwdown by Driver, then Tom Coughlin's face wasn't as red as pepperoni tonight. At least you didn't comment on #65 or on the Chris Snee's PHANTOM holding penalty. #65??? You mean Mark Taucher? One of the best Tackles in the league? He had a great game. Goes to prove the bias of the league and the nation against Green Bay and the midwest. Taucher did not do anything illegal in this game. I guess i could go back on the dvr, but pretty sure that's a garbage excuse. and blatant disrespect on one of the best Rt's in the game. |
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Post by dblwngr on Jan 20, 2008 23:05:26 GMT -6
10 road wins in a row, wow! Giants may not be the most glamorous team to make it to the Bowl, but you can't say they didn't earn it.
Regular season wins mean didlly, its all about momentum in the playoffs.
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Post by coachkeppy on Jan 20, 2008 23:05:36 GMT -6
no, it was very inconsistent officiating, and with an obvious bias. Would you yell at your kid for the Collins hit on the QB? No, obviously not, it was a good hit on a QB. If you call taking three steps to hit the QB after the throw a good hit.Would you yell at your kid if he was Woodsen on the 4th down play? No, he has the right to the ball. True, but he also grabbed Toomer by the shoulder and throw him to the ground as well.
Like I said, you may have to watch the game again and see it for yourself after the fact.3steps? hit toomer? they were bad calls, YOU go back to you're dvr man. this game was a travesty in officiating. Throw the stats at me, but obviously the game had to be coached differently after these bad calls. |
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Post by Coach Huey on Jan 20, 2008 23:05:49 GMT -6
.... I guess i could go back on the dvr, but pretty sure that's a garbage excuse. and blatant disrespect on one of the best Rt's in the game. To me, seems like only one person in this "arguement" is making any excuses. |
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Post by coachkeppy on Jan 20, 2008 23:07:33 GMT -6
.... I guess i could go back on the dvr, but pretty sure that's a garbage excuse. and blatant disrespect on one of the best Rt's in the game. To me, seems like only one person in this "arguement" is making any excuses. Only one person making legitimate excuses. |
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Post by ticobrown on Jan 20, 2008 23:09:03 GMT -6
It's a shame that we don't agree that the refs were horrible on both sides. Oh well, have a good night Coach.
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Post by coachkeppy on Jan 20, 2008 23:11:23 GMT -6
It's a shame that we don't agree that the refs were horrible on both sides. Oh well, have a good night Coach. No, I agree. But only on one side did it make a major difference which literally put points on the board for another team. And in a close game, that did make the difference. |
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?? NYG more passing and rushing yds so how did the better team not win and how were the Packers robbed?
