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Post by airitout616 on Jan 18, 2007 0:58:31 GMT -6
I am seeing what other coaches think are there top football states. I would like you to consider.
#1 PASSION, #2 SUPPORT, and #3 TALENT. Here are my top 5.
#1. Texas
#2. Flordia
#3. Alabama
#4 Ohio
#5 Penn.
The reason I didnt put Cali on my list becuase I dont think as a whole there not a passionate about the sport as the others, yea they have the talent but i think its becuase the state is so big, if it was as big as Ohio or PA would they be as good.
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Post by lex42 on Jan 18, 2007 8:37:05 GMT -6
I am an Ohio guy and all I know is the Ohio vs. USA Herbstreit classic has become a really big deal and it is the best teams in the country vs. the best of Ohio and it is even every year. I am not sure any other state could have their teams compete with the best from the country.
1. Ohio
2. Texas
3. Florida
4. Pennsylvania
5. Alabama
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Post by lukethadrifter on Jan 18, 2007 9:10:16 GMT -6
Texas could easily have quite a few teams compete and usually beat anyone in the country - Southlake Carroll, Euless Trinity, Katy, Lufkin, etc.... - more talent and great teams here than anywhere
playin' it cool - Luke
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Post by coachcb on Jan 18, 2007 9:22:48 GMT -6
1. Hawaii
2. Alaska
3. Rhode Island
4. Wyoming
5. Puerto Rico
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 18, 2007 9:41:38 GMT -6
1. Hawaii 2. Alaska 3. Rhode Island 4. Wyoming 5. Puerto Rico I don't know if this is "tongue and cheek" or not but from the few things I see about football in Alaska they take it very seriously. Not with the big budget stadiums and all that but the coaches, players, and communities take it to heart. I also heard from a college coach once that the kids in Wyoming and Montana were some of the toughest SOBs they ever recruited. There is no agruement that the list compiled at the top of this thread is probably right on, but there are some communities in Minnesota and NW Illinois that are very (very) passionate about thier football. The D-1A talent may or may not be present in these communities but the passion and support is. What about Louisiana? I think per capita they have more players in the NFL than any other state. |
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Post by tothehouse on Jan 18, 2007 9:55:28 GMT -6
I disagree Chuck. Alaskans DO NOT take football that serious. The last 7 years I have coached camps up in Alaska. Rarely have full teams come to camp and it is pulling teeth to get them there. Now, the reason they do not take football that serious is commendable. Most schools athletes have to work for their families in the fishing industry.
There are some good athletes in AK, but the quality of the teams is very low compared to top notch states. In the last few years AK teams have been dominated by average teams from CA. And these are the top teams from AK. Granted it is hard to be great when you have only 19 big high schools in the whole state.
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Post by wingtol on Jan 18, 2007 10:07:34 GMT -6
I screwed up never mind this post LOL
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Post by realdawg on Jan 18, 2007 10:27:52 GMT -6
I think TX and FL are the two best, after that Ohio, Pa, Alabama, Lousiana, and some others follow, including Cali, below that in the third teir you have NC, SC, Ga, and Miss.
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Post by lex42 on Jan 18, 2007 10:31:44 GMT -6
I just think Texas and Florida have the best talent, but Ohio has the best teams.
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Post by coachjaz on Jan 18, 2007 12:37:16 GMT -6
1. Texas
2. Ohio
3. Pennsylvania
4. Florida
5. Georgia
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Post by coach79 on Jan 18, 2007 14:28:17 GMT -6
what about Ca?
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Post by coachjaz on Jan 18, 2007 15:03:37 GMT -6
Does CA care about football? Or do they just have a billion residents?
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Post by airitout616 on Jan 18, 2007 15:09:44 GMT -6
actually i think hawaii as the the most per capita in the NFL i think i read a USA today article about high school football in Hawaii. yea i dont think cali really cares i am sure alot do but as a whole they could care less but i bet some cali coaches would disagree. if i was to say passion and support alone my list would be differnt.
#1 Texas
#2 Alabama
#3 Georgia
#4 Ohio
#5 Louisiana
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Post by swarm2ball on Jan 18, 2007 15:17:04 GMT -6
What is interesting is that the majority of people who list their top 5 or 10, a good majority of those states (minus Penn or CA)are Republican states (at least in past elections)! Hmmm, coincidence or................?
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Post by wingtol on Jan 18, 2007 15:56:18 GMT -6
I may be biased but I think you have to include PA in these top fives. I think there is something about PA footbal lthat you have to experience to know what I am talking about. I know alot of guys who have moved out of state and coached in other states and they all say there was something about PA football that these other places just didn't have.
Also if anyone knows how many classes do FLA, AL, LA, GA or some of these other states have?
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Post by brophy on Jan 18, 2007 15:57:49 GMT -6
1) Texas
2) Florida
3) Georgia
4) California
5) Louisiana
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Post by stackattack on Jan 18, 2007 16:05:50 GMT -6
What is interesting is that the majority of people who list their top 5 or 10, a good majority of those states (minus Penn or CA)are Republican states (at least in past elections)! Hmmm, coincidence or................? Those states are deeply rooted in traditional and holding onto "the way things were". Cultural and/or political change is slow in those areas. Therefore the traditional of football and the passion for it is held very high. Alright, off the political subject. Being an Ohio guy and previously raised in Pennsylvania, I'll have to put Texas at the top, but the success I have seen from Ohio vs. U.S.A. games makes the difference slight. The only thing that makes me give Texas the top spot, is because I truly believe you guys are wacko down there ;D and your passion is borderline obsession! The money you put into the sport is mind boggling but man I would love to coach there! 1. Texas 2. Ohio 3. Louisiana 4. Florida 5. Alabama |
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Post by sls on Jan 18, 2007 16:52:02 GMT -6
I grew up and played HS ball in PA and think the culture is great, but as I have looked at returning to PA a few times I have been very dissapointed in their treatment of their coaches. We in Indiana treat our coaches better than the jobs I have looked at in western PA. Better teaching schedules and much better pay. Maybe in eastern PA it is different?
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 18, 2007 17:32:21 GMT -6
I disagree Chuck. Alaskans DO NOT take football that serious. The last 7 years I have coached camps up in Alaska. Rarely have full teams come to camp and it is pulling teeth to get them there. Now, the reason they do not take football that serious is commendable. Most schools athletes have to work for their families in the fishing industry. There are some good athletes in AK, but the quality of the teams is very low compared to top notch states. In the last few years AK teams have been dominated by average teams from CA. And these are the top teams from AK. Granted it is hard to be great when you have only 19 big high schools in the whole state. Shows how much (or little) I know about Alaska. I was just going off the (few) things I have heard on TV/magazines about specific places. I will take the word of someone who has been there. |
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Post by coachdawhip on Jan 18, 2007 17:58:40 GMT -6
In GA we have 5 and Alabama football is no where close to GA foootball outside of Hoover and Prattville they couldn't hold out jocks. I love Bama, born there, but they ain't GA
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2007 19:20:47 GMT -6
We can't compete with the rest of the nation obviously but folks are constantly surprised at the football talent in Montana and the fever of it. U of M has been a 1-AA playoff team every year since 1993 with 2 national titles--most years 14+ starters are home state kids.
NAIA level Carroll College won 4 straight national titles and has a great program.
Like I said, we're not like those big boy states, but it's pretty darn good football with great history. Former Minnesota coach Bernie Bierman got his coaching start here as did Dennis Erickson, Sonny Lubick, Bob Petrino, and a bunch others.
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Post by coachseven on Jan 18, 2007 19:37:16 GMT -6
Overall Football
1. Texas
2. Georgia
3. Pennsylvania
4. Ohio
5. Florida
Pure Talent
1. Florida
2. Georgia
3. Mississippi
4. Louisana
5. Texas
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Post by izatnice on Jan 18, 2007 19:43:30 GMT -6
I think TX and FL are the two best, after that Ohio, Pa, Alabama, Lousiana, and some others follow, including Cali, below that in the third teir you have NC, SC, Ga, and Miss. No offense but NC should be 50 out of 50...don't have spring practice and heaven forbid football season has some carry over into basketball season.... |
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Post by aznando on Jan 18, 2007 22:08:40 GMT -6
1. Texas
2. Florida
3.California
4. Pennsylvania
5. Ohio
6. Georgia
7. Louisiana
8. South Carolina
Texas is just on a whole different level. IMO they should probably be ranked 1. 2. and 3.
Aznando
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Post by wingman on Jan 18, 2007 22:52:02 GMT -6
I know in a study Louisiana had more NFL players per capita than any other state.
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Post by CVBears on Jan 19, 2007 0:26:56 GMT -6
Last time I checked, Florida and California had the most exports to D-1 schools.
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Post by wingtol on Jan 19, 2007 7:27:24 GMT -6
Overall Football
1. Texas
2. Georgia
3. Pennsylvania
4. Ohio
5. Florida
Pure Talent
1. Florida
2. Georgia
3. Mississippi
4. Louisana
5. Texas
I would have to agree with that list best way I have seen it put. Can't argue with that at all.
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Post by pantherpride91 on Jan 19, 2007 7:39:48 GMT -6
I am an Ohio guy and all I know is the Ohio vs. USA Herbstreit classic has become a really big deal and it is the best teams in the country vs. the best of Ohio and it is even every year. I am not sure any other state could have their teams compete with the best from the country. 1. Ohio 2. Texas 3. Florida 4. Pennsylvania 5. Alabama I agree that the Ohio vs. Herbstreit classic is quickly becoming an event teams are eager to sign up for. Ohio used to be pretty far behind California and Florida with talent produced. However, with two of three Heisman finalist and both BCS Championship game coaches from Ohio its hard to put them too far behind them in talent produced both on the field and on the sidelines. |
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Post by 4-2-5 on Jan 19, 2007 9:17:57 GMT -6
Here is something that I found it is interesting. The study ranked all 50 states and the District of Columbia based on five different criteria: percentage of professional football fans (Mississippi ranked 21st), percentage of college football fans (15th), percentage of varsity high school football players divided by the state's male population 15-17 (3rd), percentage of signed NCAA Division I recruits for 2006 divided by the number of 11-man varsity high school football players in that state (7th), and the percentage of NFL players in 2005 divided by the number of 11-man varsity high school players in the state (8th). The states ranking in the top 10 included (in order of finish) 1. Mississippi 2. Georgia 3. Louisiana 4. Ohio 5. Alabama 6. Texas 7. Virginia 8. South Carolina 9. Kansas 10. Florida. www.nfl.com/news/story/9619858 |
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Post by donaldduck on Jan 19, 2007 9:39:19 GMT -6
TX
CA
FL
LA
PN
OH
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