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Post by vanden48 on Sept 18, 2016 23:22:05 GMT -6
OK I am furious about NIKE right now. I need to know if it is me or is this company just going down the toilet. I ordered White Mach Speed uniforms, all custom, white pants and jersey. After the first game on grass, the uniforms are trashed. These things were like $250 a set, now all ruined. I shouted the stains in the locker room after the game. Washed them with oxyclean additive and the oxyclean detergent, 4 times. I even used a toothbrush to scrub the stains with the oxyclean. I am at a loss and now kicking myself for spending that much money on these uniforms when they are now ruined after 1 game. And I still haven't received the coaching shirts Nike was supposed to send me this summer for spending so much money with them.
So I am looking into all other uniforms. I also need to figure out how to get these mud and grass stains out.
Any suggestions?
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Post by Defcord on Sept 19, 2016 5:15:43 GMT -6
One of the moms in our little league said she takes her son's baseball pants to car wash and hangs them up and sprays them with power washer to get the stains out. It works because he is the only one without grass and clay stains. I would worry it would wear out uniforms and I am too lazy to make the effort for little league.
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Post by jlenwood on Sept 19, 2016 5:29:29 GMT -6
#Neverwhite
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Post by tabs52 on Sept 19, 2016 6:00:44 GMT -6
we ordered new white game jerseys a last year the year before, and we send them out to the company every week to be professional cleaned and reconditioned, after the first game last year the red that was outlining the numbers bleed every where, some turned yellow. They are a mess
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Post by Yash on Sept 19, 2016 7:02:42 GMT -6
Make them your alternate uniforms that you only wear on turf. Should prevent the grass stains.
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Post by blb on Sept 19, 2016 7:22:35 GMT -6
Make them your alternate uniforms that you only wear on turf. Should prevent the grass stains.
What do they do in meantime until they can get another set of away uniforms?
Not every school can afford to have "alternate" uniforms, especially when you pay $250 a set for one.
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Post by tabs52 on Sept 19, 2016 7:33:06 GMT -6
that is the problem
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Post by hunhdisciple on Sept 19, 2016 8:01:23 GMT -6
Did you make sure to pre-treat them before you wore them? I don't want to be "that guy," but we didn't do that a few years ago and the socks bled onto the white pants. We had to get a new set and they were fine after we treated them.
What about a nice soak in some bleach water overnight?
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Post by Yash on Sept 19, 2016 9:39:34 GMT -6
Make them your alternate uniforms that you only wear on turf. Should prevent the grass stains.
What do they do in meantime until they can get another set of away uniforms?
Not every school can afford to have "alternate" uniforms, especially when you pay $250 a set for one.
I was joking.... my away uniforms are from prior to 2009--- I rarely get new uniforms. I don't have alternate uniforms, nor do I have turf. |
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Post by bigmoot on Sept 19, 2016 10:54:51 GMT -6
what do you use to pre treat?
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Post by pistolwhipped on Sept 19, 2016 11:11:55 GMT -6
1. Small amount of Shout or similar into the bottom of one of these...  2. Start filling with warm water and agitate the mixture 3. Place jerseys in can and stir/agitate repeatedly (I use a softball bat because one is in the laundry room) 4. Let sit util AM 5. Wash |
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Post by mnike23 on Sept 19, 2016 11:12:59 GMT -6
pre treat
is as simple as
run them thru a wash cycle and no detergents, just to set the colors and tighten the fabrics. who ever sold them to you should have told you that.
we got 100% custom nike mach speed jerseys, white with silver letters, outlined in red. have 1 that looks bad (kid had eyeblack on, for a night game, wtf). it has a stain that is faint,
wore them in the rainy friday a few weeks back and they look pretty dang good. 2 days of soaking in oxyclean water. washed on monday AM,
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Post by mnike23 on Sept 19, 2016 11:14:46 GMT -6
1. Small amount of Shout or similar into the bottom of one of these... 2. Start filling with warm water and agitate the mixture 3. Place jerseys in can and stir/agitate repeatedly (I use a softball bat because one is in the laundry room) 4. Let sit util AM 5. Wash oxyclean and cold water |
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Post by vanden48 on Sept 19, 2016 13:33:45 GMT -6
I have Oxycleaned the crap out of these. So I am gathering that I needed to soak these thing the night of the game, then wash them after 24 hours? I was literally spraying shout on the jerseys and pants as the kids were taking them off in the lockerroom. I then washed them the next day. It says not to use bleach on them, and there is a sublimated maroon feather design on the side of the pants so I don't want to ruin that.
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Post by airraider on Sept 19, 2016 14:53:27 GMT -6
Brand new Riddell red pants bled on several brand new white Russell jerseys when we had a down pour friday night... I assume its a brand competition or something they are having..
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Post by Coach Hoover on Sept 19, 2016 19:59:54 GMT -6
Nike provides very detailed washing instructions with new uniforms (I know, I'm a dealer for them). A few things to note:
1. Uniforms should definitely have been washed twice prior to wearing. This sets the colors to avoid dye migration.
2. Never wash with warm water.
3. Never bleach.
4. Never use fabric softener.
5. Use appropriate stain release agent for protein-based stains.
6. Use detergent with appropriate alkaline level.
7. Hang dry.
White-on-white looks beautiful, but if you're playing on grass, just not ideal when you have uniforms that need to last 4 years. Elite level colleges and pro teams can keep them looking great because they play predominantly on turf and can cycle through new stock frequently - not at all like a high school.
The company is not going down the toilet. The Mach Speed uniform is probably the lightest and most durable on the market, with the most comfortable fit and best cut. My team has the Nike Pro Combat Speed uniforms and yes, the Whites can be tough, but they look fantastic - it's a trade-off. And besides, you're playing football in them, not going to the prom, so while you want them to remain clean, don't expect them to look like they just came off the shelf.
Nike spends more in R&D than UA makes in a year - it's not the product.
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Post by Coach Vint on Sept 19, 2016 20:42:00 GMT -6
Every white uniform we have had at each school I have been at lasted, but a lot of it had to due with how we treated them. We washed them before wearing. When a game finishes we soak them in ice water with a little bit of detergent. They soak overnight. We wash them in cold water the next day. We hang dry them. If they still have staines we soak for 4 more hours then wash again in cold water. We wash pants separate from jerseys. One load is pants, load two is jerseys, load three is socks. Load 4 is undershirts. Load 5 is girdles. This takes all day Saturday, but all of our uniforms tend to last several years and look great. We have used everything from Ridell, to Nike, to Adidas, to Under Armour. They all did very well.
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Post by utchuckd on Sept 20, 2016 7:41:39 GMT -6
We got the Nike Mach Speed stock uniforms this year. Didn't get any kind of washing/care instructions with them. Love the uniforms and they need to last us 4-5 years (at least), but I just figured a bit of staining was the price you pay for playing on grass in a white uniform. I did have to put a moratorium on eye black after our first game. I'm a bit of an a-hole on the care and feeding of our uniforms, but if we'd paid $250 a set I'd be insane.
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Post by vanden48 on Sept 20, 2016 9:26:50 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong,our white on white uniforms are the best looking in the state. I followed all of the care instructions Nike shipped with the uniforms. Just thought that mud would come out a little easier. I knew grass stains would be a problem, looking back I should have gone with Maroon pants, I just thought the white on white would be very sharp. I have been washing these things with the most expensive stain removers I can buy and nothing seems to get the grass out of the knees.
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Post by wingtol on Sept 20, 2016 10:24:19 GMT -6
Dumb question....if they should be washed before wearing why don't they wash them then ship them from the company?
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Post by olcoach53 on Sept 20, 2016 10:29:50 GMT -6
White uniforms are the worst. Our white pants have blue stains on them from a freshly painted field. They also have the normal grass and dirt stains that NEVER come out no matter how much spray, shout, clean and washing you give them.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Sept 20, 2016 12:23:20 GMT -6
go gray
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Post by pistolwhipped on Sept 20, 2016 16:33:07 GMT -6
I think grey is considered the "dark" jersey per NFHS so you'd need still need "white" jerseys. |
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Post by Coach Hoover on Sept 20, 2016 20:32:49 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong,our white on white uniforms are the best looking in the state. I followed all of the care instructions Nike shipped with the uniforms. Just thought that mud would come out a little easier. I knew grass stains would be a problem, looking back I should have gone with Maroon pants, I just thought the white on white would be very sharp. I have been washing these things with the most expensive stain removers I can buy and nothing seems to get the grass out of the knees. White-on-white, if done well, is the crispiest look you can achieve. I love it and am hoping to convince our Booster Club to buy a set of White pants for our team next year to go with the new unis we got this year. You're right - you just have to accept that after the first game, they are gradually going to look less and less clean. Ideal for turf, not for grass. A poster mentioned Grey...that would not be NFHS legal. Away team must wear White on the body (sleeves obviously can be non-white). Would be nice if they allowed Light Grey as an Away color, since it's very close to White, but it's hard to control manufacturer's Grey tones; Nike sells "Pewter" which is Light Silver, but they use something closer to "Cool Grey" for Colorado and Oregon, among others, which is very much a mid-tone, and then there's Anthracite, which we went with this year, which is almost Black. Hard to say "Away can be Grey" if the Grey someone buys ends up being a middle Grey. |
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Post by agame on Sept 21, 2016 9:08:27 GMT -6
I can't remember the last time we played a game on grass. Turf doesn't stain the uni's. 1st world problems eh coach...  |
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Post by IronmanFootball on Sept 21, 2016 9:57:43 GMT -6
I think grey is considered the "dark" jersey per NFHS so you'd need still need "white" jerseys. I've worn it away. Guess it matters how anal some d bag ref is. |
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Post by blb on Sept 21, 2016 10:00:38 GMT -6
I think grey is considered the "dark" jersey per NFHS so you'd need still need "white" jerseys. I've worn it away. Guess it matters how anal some d bag ref is.
Some might say a coach who chooses to ignore NFHS rules is a "d bag."
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Post by IronmanFootball on Sept 21, 2016 10:54:37 GMT -6
I've worn it away. Guess it matters how anal some d bag ref is.
Some might say a coach who chooses to ignore NFHS rules is a "d bag."
Oh Christ. Get off the high horse man. It's a jersey. Are you the coach on the other sideline that snitches on a 15 year old for only having one pink arm sleeve on because the rule book says you must wear two? |
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Post by blb on Sept 21, 2016 11:04:05 GMT -6
Some might say a coach who chooses to ignore NFHS rules is a "d bag."
Oh Christ. Get off the high horse man. It's a jersey. Are you the coach on the other sideline that snitches on a 15 year old for only having one pink arm sleeve on because the rule book says you must wear two?
It's also a rule and even though "It's a jersey" there's a reason for it.
Do you always practice situational ethics? Where's the line?
How would you react if one of your players decided he didn't like you being "anal" about one of your practice or training rules and chose to ignore it?
Climbing down now.
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Post by fantom on Sept 21, 2016 11:10:15 GMT -6
Some might say a coach who chooses to ignore NFHS rules is a "d bag."
Oh Christ. Get off the high horse man. It's a jersey. Are you the coach on the other sideline that snitches on a 15 year old for only having one pink arm sleeve on because the rule book says you must wear two? No, I'm a coach who doesn't want to lose a player or draw a penalty because a 15 year old has one pink arm sleeve because the rule book says that you must wear two. |
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