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Post by jg78 on Aug 19, 2016 8:33:17 GMT -6
You're suddenly the HC at a college football powerhouse. You can hire anyone - even any current HC's - to be your OC and DC. Who do you want and why?
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Post by wolverine55 on Aug 19, 2016 8:40:58 GMT -6
Art Briles. Too soon?
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Post by olcoach53 on Aug 19, 2016 9:12:10 GMT -6
Gus Malzahn. I think he understands the game (especially the run game) and he can bring an up-tempo system with him.
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 19, 2016 9:25:03 GMT -6
Honestly, I would just bring over Harbaughs staff from that run they had at Stanford. I loved those teams.
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Post by CoachMcKie on Aug 19, 2016 9:32:04 GMT -6
I'll go with three (I know I'm cheating): June Jones, Mike Leach, Mouse Davis.
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Post by fantom on Aug 19, 2016 9:41:28 GMT -6
Bud Foster.
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Post by coachdubyah on Aug 19, 2016 9:41:56 GMT -6
One of the following for OC: lochness blb bluedarters Then we will get fired after 1 year for not being "Modern" enough. DC: @dcohio |
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Post by brophy on Aug 19, 2016 10:05:41 GMT -6
depends on what region, because I'm mainly hiring guys who dominate the recruiting game. Xs & Os will sort itself out after they recruit
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Post by newt21 on Aug 19, 2016 10:19:37 GMT -6
OC: Paul Johnson
DC: Gary Patterson
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Post by CS on Aug 19, 2016 10:28:50 GMT -6
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Post by Defcord on Aug 19, 2016 10:40:07 GMT -6
brophy brings up a good point. Recruiting/HC: Saban OC/Asst. Recruiting: Urban DC: Dantonio ST: Beamer - he can unretire to coach special teams Problem with these guys is they are all going to do great and leave you to become a head coach. Great group of coaches though. |
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Post by Defcord on Aug 19, 2016 10:42:12 GMT -6
I am an IU fan so I am biased but I think Kevin Wilson can run an offense with the best of them.
For defensive coordinators its hard to say. I think Gary Patterson and Pat Narduzzi have both been tremendous.
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Post by Stangs13065 on Aug 19, 2016 10:51:32 GMT -6
OC: Chip Kelly
DC: Charlie McBride
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Post by 33coach on Aug 19, 2016 11:41:47 GMT -6
You're suddenly the HC at a college football powerhouse. You can hire anyone - even any current HC's - to be your OC and DC. Who do you want and why? OC - Paul Johnson DC - Steve Russ (Current Air force DC) two of the greatest football minds of our time. |
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Post by shocktroop34 on Aug 19, 2016 12:53:35 GMT -6
OC: Urban
DC: Saban
These two can recruit from anywhere in the country and know their craft inside out.
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Post by joelee on Aug 19, 2016 13:04:58 GMT -6
OC: Urban DC: Saban These two can recruit from anywhere in the country and know their craft inside out. I am shocked no one said this before. I came on here to post the same 2 names. |
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Post by jg78 on Aug 19, 2016 13:08:10 GMT -6
OC: Urban DC: Saban These two can recruit from anywhere in the country and know their craft inside out. Not saying he doesn't know his offense, but (IIRC) Meyer was never an OC anywhere and doesn't seem to have the "guru" label for one side of the ball that some other coaches have (like Saban). Meyer seems to rely heavily on whoever is his OC. His Florida teams dropped off some after Mullen left and the same thing happened (though maybe not to the same extent) when Herman left OSU.
I would absolutely pick Meyer as one of my top two HC's, but that's not the same as coordinating. He doesn't have the same track record on one side of the ball as people like Malzahn, etc.
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Post by John Knight on Aug 19, 2016 13:36:13 GMT -6
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Post by CoachF on Aug 19, 2016 18:08:15 GMT -6
OC- Noel Mazzone
DC- Dave Aranda
I think both guys are great teachers. Mazzone understands QB's, he knows what he wants to do on offense and keeps it simple but creative. Aranda also keeps it relatively "simple" and likes to bring heat; defenses are usually very sound.
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 19, 2016 18:19:48 GMT -6
Brady Hoke. Something about watching him clap on the sidelines whether things are going his way or not is just awesome.
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Post by 33coach on Aug 19, 2016 21:47:28 GMT -6
Brady Hoke. Something about watching him clap on the sidelines whether things are going his way or not is just awesome. that guy was one of the best coaches SDSU ever had. turned that program around |
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Post by fantom on Aug 19, 2016 22:11:54 GMT -6
I'm kind of wondering if some of the DC choices would work with those Hurry up, pass heavy OC's.
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 20, 2016 5:33:24 GMT -6
Brady Hoke. Something about watching him clap on the sidelines whether things are going his way or not is just awesome. that guy was one of the best coaches SDSU ever had. turned that program around He was great at Ball State as well, and I am sore he will be a good DC at Oregon. Not sure why he struggled at Michigan as much as he did. |
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Post by blb on Aug 20, 2016 6:40:20 GMT -6
that guy was one of the best coaches SDSU ever had. turned that program around He was great at Ball State as well, and I am sore he will be a good DC at Oregon. Not sure why he struggled at Michigan as much as he did.
One reason was he and Borges tried to mesh their WCO with Spread personnel they inherited and it didn't work well, i.e. they kept going back and forth and never established an "identity."
Secondly he assumed kids were as motivated to play for Michigan as he was to coach them. Not enough accountability including competition.
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Post by coachklee on Aug 20, 2016 8:45:39 GMT -6
He was great at Ball State as well, and I am sore he will be a good DC at Oregon. Not sure why he struggled at Michigan as much as he did.
One reason was he and Borges tried to mesh their WCO with Spread personnel they inherited and it didn't work well, i.e. they kept going back and forth and never established an "identity."
Secondly he assumed kids were as motivated to play for Michigan as he was to coach them. Not enough accountability including competition.
They were going to become a 2-back power team the whole time, but their best back was Denard Robinson at QB...then while a few new RBs came in, it seemed like the OL could never gel while the next QB was Devin Gardner (who spent an entire off-season as a WR before moving back to QB). Both looked lost on anything that required them to be pocket passers. I think failure to develop or find the right QBs held the offense back & led to the offense sputtering resulting in the team's failure in Hoke's last season. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 20, 2016 8:48:49 GMT -6
You're suddenly the HC at a college football powerhouse. You can hire anyone - even any current HC's - to be your OC and DC. Who do you want and why? While I understand this is another fun barroom/talk radio type discussion question, I do think it leads to somewhat of a fundamental misunderstanding of how successful programs operate. |
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Post by 33coach on Aug 20, 2016 9:16:33 GMT -6
You're suddenly the HC at a college football powerhouse. You can hire anyone - even any current HC's - to be your OC and DC. Who do you want and why? While I understand this is another fun barroom/talk radio type discussion question, I do think it leads to somewhat of a fundamental misunderstanding of how successful programs operate. I don't think there is any misunderstanding, this is just a fun "who would you hire" talk. Sometimes, you gotta let reality go. |
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Post by John Knight on Aug 20, 2016 12:30:14 GMT -6
Yeah, in reality my son would be my OC and my best friend would be my DC. Football coaching is a foxhole game. Surround yourself with those you trust!
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Post by blb on Aug 20, 2016 12:51:31 GMT -6
You're suddenly the HC at a college football powerhouse. You can hire anyone - even any current HC's - to be your OC and DC. Who do you want and why?
I understand purpose of thread-post, but -
Very few coaches "suddenly (become) the HC at a college football powerhouse" unless your name is Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh, Fisher.
Better question for a coaching-X and O board such as this would be: "You're suddenly HC at a P5 school that needs rebuilding to compete much less win big.
"Who would you hire as OC and DC (recruiting ability not a consideration)?"
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Post by shocktroop34 on Aug 20, 2016 13:43:58 GMT -6
OC: Urban DC: Saban These two can recruit from anywhere in the country and know their craft inside out. Not saying he doesn't know his offense, but (IIRC) Meyer was never an OC anywhere and doesn't seem to have the "guru" label for one side of the ball that some other coaches have (like Saban). Meyer seems to rely heavily on whoever is his OC. His Florida teams dropped off some after Mullen left and the same thing happened (though maybe not to the same extent) when Herman left OSU.
I would absolutely pick Meyer as one of my top two HC's, but that's not the same as coordinating. He doesn't have the same track record on one side of the ball as people like Malzahn, etc.
I don't think you are taking into account Urbans days at Bowling Green and Utah when he was developing and evolving many of the spread concepts that many are still running today. He made the idea of spreading to run the ball a popular concept long before others caught on. The stuff Malzahn, Briles, etc do are evolved ideas from Meyers early days. Its OK to lean heavily on your OC when you've given him the blue print. 😊 |
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