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Post by fantom on Aug 14, 2016 8:10:25 GMT -6
After our scrimmage this week I came to realize what will drive me into retirement. It won't be practice, weights, or dealing with parents, kids, or administrators. It'll be watching film. It bores the hell out of me.
That is all.
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Post by 44dlcoach on Aug 14, 2016 8:13:45 GMT -6
After our scrimmage this week I came to realize what will drive me into retirement. It won't be practice, weights, or dealing with parents, kids, or administrators. It'll be watching film. It bores the hell out of me. That is all. Yours, theirs, or both? |
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Post by fantom on Aug 14, 2016 8:17:45 GMT -6
After our scrimmage this week I came to realize what will drive me into retirement. It won't be practice, weights, or dealing with parents, kids, or administrators. It'll be watching film. It bores the hell out of me. That is all. Yours, theirs, or both? Our's but both, really. |
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Post by fantom on Aug 14, 2016 8:43:01 GMT -6
Upon further review I realized that that's not quite true. I do enjoy watching the other guys and figuring out a game plan when the games are for real. Watching film when I know that there's nobody better than the guy in the game? Shoot me now. |
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Post by orion320 on Aug 14, 2016 8:56:28 GMT -6
I understand your frustration. Watching ourselves against ourselves is pretty boring. I also find it boring to watch the previous game the day after...I was there I know what happened. I would much rather move past that game and start prepping for the next game. However I will watch the game after the season for self-scouting purposes. I love scouting and creating a game plan...not dwelling on the past.
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Post by freezeoption on Aug 14, 2016 11:48:23 GMT -6
I think fantom is saying, he has his best in, they are not good enough but that is all he has, I know your pain
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Post by dubber on Aug 14, 2016 11:52:17 GMT -6
Do you all grade film? Cause then I agree.
But using hudl to annotate a play has really helped our players understand what we want.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 4:57:59 GMT -6
After our scrimmage this week I came to realize what will drive me into retirement. It won't be practice, weights, or dealing with parents, kids, or administrators. It'll be watching film. It bores the hell out of me. That is all.
Do you have other coaches you can delegate to?
I look at scheme/formations/tendencies then ask the positional coaches to look at their "opposite" positions, e.g. QB/WR scout Secondary, RBs scout LBs and OL scout DL. We have a template game plan that we feed all the info into then share with the players. Positional coaches are also responsible for annotating HUDL footage of practices/scrimmages.
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Post by rosey65 on Aug 16, 2016 7:44:47 GMT -6
Upon further review I realized that that's not quite true. I do enjoy watching the other guys and figuring out a game plan when the games are for real. Watching film when I know that there's nobody better than the guy in the game? Shoot me now. This is the exact reason I love Hudl. Using the filters and "next play" button really helps prevent the depression I feel watching my Jr 6'5" OL struggle getting movement against the 120lb JV freshman DE. The time Ive spent watching film has gone down significantly over the past few years, but I'd like to believe I get a lot more out of my time. |
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Post by dytmook on Aug 16, 2016 7:59:16 GMT -6
I like watching film, but there's definitely a saturation point. Especially practice film etc...I like to watch it with the team, teach, and move on
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Post by blb on Aug 16, 2016 8:12:31 GMT -6
After our scrimmage this week I came to realize what will drive me into retirement. It won't be practice, weights, or dealing with parents, kids, or administrators. It'll be watching film. It bores the hell out of me. That is all.
That's what got me out - spending 15-16 hours a weekend evaluating ours, breaking down theirs, staff meetings watching theirs, players watching ours.
Not to mention game planning and drawing Scout cards.
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Post by CoachDaniel on Aug 16, 2016 10:11:01 GMT -6
Do you all grade film? Cause then I agree. But using hudl to annotate a play has really helped our players understand what we want. Grading film is the worst. If I ever work for a head coach that asks me to grade film again, I'll just show myself out. I can watch it one time and give each guy a number from 1-100 if you really want. It'll be accurate. The hudl annotation is awesome. I go overboard sometimes. |
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Post by realdawg on Aug 16, 2016 10:38:57 GMT -6
I don't mind film until the offense walks out done meeting after we have only broke down 2 films. Drawing cards sucks. Most people think DC stands for Defensive Coordinator. It doesn't. It stands for Draws Cards.
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 16, 2016 10:40:03 GMT -6
The last HC I worked for made me grade film and I hated it. I can tell by watching of Johnny Dipchit isn't getting out quick enough on rocket toss.
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Post by rosey65 on Aug 16, 2016 10:56:25 GMT -6
The last HC I worked for made me grade film and I hated it. I can tell by watching of Johnny Dipchit isn't getting out quick enough on rocket toss. Right?? He's bad. I know it. He knows it. The rest of the team knows it. Last thing I wanna do is quantify how bad "he" actually is. It's HS (or MS) football. We play who we get. |
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 16, 2016 11:16:01 GMT -6
The last HC I worked for made me grade film and I hated it. I can tell by watching of Johnny Dipchit isn't getting out quick enough on rocket toss. Right?? He's bad. I know it. He knows it. The rest of the team knows it. Last thing I wanna do is quantify how bad "he" actually is. It's HS (or MS) football. We play who we get. I can grind in film for hours. I just hate doing work for the sake of doing work. I have a wife and kids. I like seeing them. This is why I took a step back and am just a JV OC instead of the big boy OC. The defenses we see are nice and vanilla. I'm probably doing about 25% of the work I was 2 years ago, but because I have more time to do it the quality of time I put in is way better. |
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Post by CoachMcKie on Aug 16, 2016 11:50:06 GMT -6
Do you all grade film? Cause then I agree. But using hudl to annotate a play has really helped our players understand what we want. I just started using the annotate and share on Hudl. I can circle where the kid went wrong. Write notes about what kid should have done. And share the clips privately when I want to. That way the kid doesn't get embarrassed. The best thing about it is since I've started doing this I can tell an improvement of our kids' play. |
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Post by cqmiller on Aug 16, 2016 12:13:39 GMT -6
I'm on the opposite side... I think the film is the best part of things. Getting the kids opportunities to see where they can improve. We had our first practice for our game this week vs. the #5 team in the state and I spend about 2 hours putting 1 or 2 coaching points on each play of our inside run and 7on7 sessions in practice. We don't setup the endzone camera for practice, so team is mostly not usable except for pass plays. We turn inside run session to the sideline so we always get the back-view.
If we clean up more than half of the things from yesterday, we will be MUCH better. Then we clean up half of the things left over by wednesday, then 1/2 of those by Thursday and we are sitting at less than 12.5% of the errors by Thursday and if we clean up 1/2 of those we are sitting at less than 6.25% of the errors we had on Monday during the game on Friday.
If it isn't being used for a purpose, then it is a waste of time, I completely agree. If you are watching film just to watch film, that's boring and I wouldn't want to do it just to do it. I grade my QB's in every scrimmage and game and they have to grade themselves as well. They can compare scores and self-evaluate the 2 main things they need to work on for the following week. Teaching them how to critically evaluate film is the hard part, but having them be taught as 9th and 10th graders helps that out a lot.
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Post by fantom on Aug 16, 2016 14:13:54 GMT -6
I'm on the opposite side... I think the film is the best part of things. Getting the kids opportunities to see where they can improve. We had our first practice for our game this week vs. the #5 team in the state and I spend about 2 hours putting 1 or 2 coaching points on each play of our inside run and 7on7 sessions in practice. We don't setup the endzone camera for practice, so team is mostly not usable except for pass plays. We turn inside run session to the sideline so we always get the back-view. If we clean up more than half of the things from yesterday, we will be MUCH better. Then we clean up half of the things left over by wednesday, then 1/2 of those by Thursday and we are sitting at less than 12.5% of the errors by Thursday and if we clean up 1/2 of those we are sitting at less than 6.25% of the errors we had on Monday during the game on Friday. If it isn't being used for a purpose, then it is a waste of time, I completely agree. If you are watching film just to watch film, that's boring and I wouldn't want to do it just to do it. I grade my QB's in every scrimmage and game and they have to grade themselves as well. They can compare scores and self-evaluate the 2 main things they need to work on for the following week. Teaching them how to critically evaluate film is the hard part, but having them be taught as 9th and 10th graders helps that out a lot. Wanna watch mine? |
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Post by Defcord on Aug 16, 2016 17:06:33 GMT -6
I like the film as well because I just can't see everything during practice or a game. It allows me to go back and see what each player is doing and leave notes as reinforcement when they did well and how to correct it when they didn't. And I think the film has a special way of influencing a player because it allows them to see what they actually did opposed to what they think they did.
I hate putting in d&d, hash, play direction, g/l, and all of that. If I could have someone put in that stuff so I could breakdown what the offense is doing life would be a lot smoother.
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Post by 53 on Aug 16, 2016 18:44:48 GMT -6
I like film but think it's way over done, and some people like to do a lot of useless busy work, just so they'll feel like they're grinding. I'm way more interested in finding ways to run a more efficient practice and better focusing more on fundamentals and having the kids play confident and fast.
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 16, 2016 19:26:08 GMT -6
I like the film as well because I just can't see everything during practice or a game. It allows me to go back and see what each player is doing and leave notes as reinforcement when they did well and how to correct it when they didn't. And I think the film has a special way of influencing a player because it allows them to see what they actually did opposed to what they think they did. I hate putting in d&d, hash, play direction, g/l, and all of that. If I could have someone put in that stuff so I could breakdown what the offense is doing life would be a lot smoother. No doubt. I could probably find somebody to input all that crap. The problem is that I want it done when I want it done. Sometimes after a game I watch it that night, and want it all in then so I can roll into team film ready to go. I don't want to wait on some slapdick to get it in. |
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Post by coachklee on Aug 16, 2016 19:47:18 GMT -6
I don't mind film until the offense walks out done meeting after we have only broke down 2 films. Drawing cards sucks. Most people think DC stands for Defensive Coordinator. It doesn't. It stands for Draws Cards. I'm enjoying it because I'm actually coordinating the D for the 2nd year in a row, but keeping all of the cards organized, even with Hudl is a good deal of work. At least this season is 2nd time through & half our alignments our similar to last year...and honestly Hudl speeds it up a ton! |
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Post by ejones54 on Aug 17, 2016 0:40:33 GMT -6
I don't mind film until the offense walks out done meeting after we have only broke down 2 films. Drawing cards sucks. Most people think DC stands for Defensive Coordinator. It doesn't. It stands for Draws Cards. This made me laugh too hard. You hit the nail on the head. Draws Cards hahaha |
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Post by realdawg on Aug 17, 2016 3:28:16 GMT -6
Glad I could make someone laugh!
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Post by newcoryell on Aug 17, 2016 6:01:17 GMT -6
I'm on the opposite side... I think the film is the best part of things. Getting the kids opportunities to see where they can improve. We had our first practice for our game this week vs. the #5 team in the state and I spend about 2 hours putting 1 or 2 coaching points on each play of our inside run and 7on7 sessions in practice. We don't setup the endzone camera for practice, so team is mostly not usable except for pass plays. We turn inside run session to the sideline so we always get the back-view. If we clean up more than half of the things from yesterday, we will be MUCH better. Then we clean up half of the things left over by wednesday, then 1/2 of those by Thursday and we are sitting at less than 12.5% of the errors by Thursday and if we clean up 1/2 of those we are sitting at less than 6.25% of the errors we had on Monday during the game on Friday. If it isn't being used for a purpose, then it is a waste of time, I completely agree. If you are watching film just to watch film, that's boring and I wouldn't want to do it just to do it. I grade my QB's in every scrimmage and game and they have to grade themselves as well. They can compare scores and self-evaluate the 2 main things they need to work on for the following week. Teaching them how to critically evaluate film is the hard part, but having them be taught as 9th and 10th graders helps that out a lot. Wanna watch mine? Yes. I've actually would love to do that and perform detailed infographics for coaches. Would have to 'sit' down with coaches to verify what they would want.... |
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Post by dubber on Aug 17, 2016 19:27:14 GMT -6
Do you all grade film? Cause then I agree. But using hudl to annotate a play has really helped our players understand what we want. I just started using the annotate and share on Hudl. I can circle where the kid went wrong. Write notes about what kid should have done. And share the clips privately when I want to. That way the kid doesn't get embarrassed. The best thing about it is since I've started doing this I can tell an improvement of our kids' play. We usually just call the kids out and share it with everybody. |
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Post by fantom on Aug 17, 2016 20:02:37 GMT -6
Do you all grade film? Cause then I agree. But using hudl to annotate a play has really helped our players understand what we want. I just started using the annotate and share on Hudl. I can circle where the kid went wrong. Write notes about what kid should have done. And share the clips privately when I want to. That way the kid doesn't get embarrassed. The best thing about it is since I've started doing this I can tell an improvement of our kids' play. Wouldn't that just make me watch more film? BTW, I find embarassment (Peer pressure) to be a great motivator. |
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Post by cqmiller on Aug 17, 2016 20:30:19 GMT -6
I need my backup LG to learn just as much as my starting LG... Share all comments with everyone. One play away from having to reteach all that $h!t if you haven't been getting the info to both of them.
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Post by carookie on Aug 17, 2016 21:16:11 GMT -6
Grading out your own players can be rough to get through, but it does help find specific issues to deal with. If my LB isn't getting to his drops quickly enough I want to know specifically why, and to be honest I may not always see it right away in the game. Were his eyes bad, was he not opening his hips properly, etc?
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