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Post by coachjo14 on Jun 29, 2016 6:33:28 GMT -6
I have a few that come to mind immediately, but the one I will go with was in my first season on the current job. We were in the middle of a playoff push and had been battling back and forth all night in a game we needed. Take the lead for the first time late in the 4th quarter. We force a fumble on the ensuing kickoff and recover it! But, the ref says our safety #13 was out of bounds when he recovered it. Its a long gruelling drive that we end with an interception! But, the ref says our #13 was out of bounds. They get into a first and goal situation and we push them back to 4th and goal at the 20 with no timeouts. The clock is running out and they chuck up a prayer to the weakside and their guy makes a play. Ball game.
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Post by hunhdisciple on Jun 29, 2016 7:49:42 GMT -6
A few years ago, we were playing for a district championship. Tied 7-7 after 1. Got a scoop and score, and had a long drive at the end to make it 21-7 at half.
Then the wheels fell off. They started with an onside kick, scored and then got another onside.
Final score was 49-21. Our guys just stopped making plays, and they started. I don't really know what all we could have done to stop the bleeding.
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Post by Stangs13065 on Jun 29, 2016 8:16:00 GMT -6
My junior year of high school we were the number eight seed in the playoffs facing the number one seed. Our HC was the typical gruff old coach, and even though it wasn't official; It was kind of unspoken that he was going to retire at the end of the year. He had a storied career (Five state titles in about 13 years). We were playing without out best player (WR/DB). They had two D1 Wide receivers that we're 6'2/6'3. It was a defensive battle. Back and forth the whole game. Now, I love offense, but I played nose, so I was pretty proud of our D. The score was 3-3 going into the fourth quarter, and they scored a long TD on a blown coverage in the middle of the fourth, and with about a minute left we were driving, but we stalled on the 20-ish, and lost 10-3. Our team was mostly seniors, and our whole team was very tight. As we were walking to the bus you could just kind of see it in everyone's eyes the disbelief that it was over. The people we spent the last 3-4 years with, and in some cases last 9-10. It was never going to be the same, so on a football level, and a personal level it's the hardest loss I've ever taken.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jun 29, 2016 8:37:35 GMT -6
We were in the 3rd round of the playoffs my second year coaching. We went into the locker room at halftime up 14-0. We lost that game 35-14. That would be the last game I would coach in Michigan for 5 years as I moved out of state. What a painful way to move on, thinking about what could have been. I hated those bastards that beat us.
I coach for those bastards now.
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Post by fantom on Jun 29, 2016 9:07:35 GMT -6
Years ago it was very tough to make the playoffs. You had to win your district. In case of a tie, the winner was determined by power points, the record of the teams that you beat and our district had ten teams so we each played only one game out of district. We had never made the playoffs before.
In week 9 we had beaten the other undefeated team in the district, a perennial power who was always in the playoffs. So going into the last game we were 9-0 and ranked first in the state.
Our opponent in game 10 was a losing team that had a good defense but a terrible offense. For some reason our offense was out of synch so the score was tied in a very low scoring game (I don't remember the exact score). Our defense was playing great, though, helped by the fact that their starting QB had been injured and replaced by a soph who was terrible.
We took the lead by scoring a TD with less than a minute to play. The fact that we missed the PAT didn't seem to matter. Then we kicked off. It was 1990 so situation kickoffs weren't a big thing yet. We just wailed away at it. It was a good kickoff, high and long, but a huge gap appeared in our coverage. We later found out that the two geniuses there- great athletes but between them they couldn't spell IQ if you spotted them a letter- had switched assignments on their own and, oddly enough, screwed it up.
Of course, they ran it back for a TD to take the lead. Game over. Season over.
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Post by moon on Jun 29, 2016 9:37:58 GMT -6
We were playing a team who has a long tradition of winning and going deep into the the playoffs with 5 state championships that hadn't lost at home in several years. They were 7-1 and we were 5-2. I don't recall the last time we had beaten them. All I knew was that it was going to be a battle because we had a tough group of seniors. At half we were up 12-7 and you could tell the crowd was completely shocked because of the silence in the stands. Unfortunately we missed both extra points which I knew could possibly haunt us. In the second half the battle continued to be played pretty much in the middle of the field until they dialed up a flee-flicker that got them down to our 5. The punched it in at the end of the 3rd to take the lead 14-12. In the 4th quarter it was pretty much the same until around 3 minutes left. The opposing team moved the ball inside our 10 and on 4th and goal elected to go for it. Fortunately, we got the stop and there was around 1:30 left on the clock. We began to move the ball and got all the way to about the 50 were stalled out on downs and lost them game. It was a terrible loss but alt the same time a great game defensively to coach. I felt like our kids were on point most of the night with just a couple of breakdowns. Funny thing is, now I coach at this school and we won the state championship last season.
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Post by realdawg on Jun 29, 2016 10:42:22 GMT -6
3rd round of playoffs. We are up 26-10 with 10 min to go in game. They are driving. We catch a pick in the end zone and somehow run it out and fumble it. They recover on the 5. They score. 26-16. We got 3 and out. They score and get the 2 pt conversion. 26-24. We throw a pick. They score. Now they are winning. 30-26. We go 3 and out. They go 3 and out and punt. We muff the punt. They recover. We hold them. Down 4. 2 minutes left. We drive down and score with 34 sec left. Go up 32-30. We sky kick the kickoff. Their kid slips catching it but doesn't fall and our kids let up covering the kick. He returns it for a td. They go up 36-32. We get tackled on their 5 to end the game. So many things went wrong their at the end that any one thing different would have been the difference.
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Post by coachjo14 on Jun 29, 2016 11:24:03 GMT -6
realdawgThat's brutal... I played in a game similar to that in HS. Had a good lead on a team we had never beaten in school history in the 4th. We have a key defensive player go down with an injury. They score right over his back up. We go 3 and out. They Get the ball and score right over his backup to take a slim lead. We take the kick off back to retake the lead. We get a stop. They get a stop. They throw a hail mary as time expires. From that point forward our team was a walking field hospital and could never get back on track. That was the most talented team my school ever had, but the next year we were the best team our school ever had. Tough loss though!
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Post by coachcb on Jun 29, 2016 11:39:32 GMT -6
Second game of the year, second year as an HC.. We had taken over an 8-man program that hadn't won a game in five-six years and had made some strides the year before. We won our first game of the year the second year and then played the #2 ranked team in the state the next week.
We were tied with them 35-35 in the beginning of the third; just trading scores back and forth. We had just punched it in for the tie, they got the ball back and returned it for a touchdown. Then, we got the ball, marched it down the field, fumbled and turned the ball over to them on the five yard line. The pummeled us down the length of the field running Power and Iso and the kids just gave up.
We lost 70-35. Yup. 35 unanswered points in a quarter and a half after being tied with them...
What made everything worse was all of the pats the staff got on the backs from the administration and community. It fed into the mentality that losing was alright, even though we did so because the team just quit playing ball. We won one more game that year and finished 2-5 when I feel like we could have finished in the top of the three in the conference and made a play-off run if the kids could have just kept their crap together. That team could have gone a long way if they had learned how to handle adversity and keep playing four quarter of football.
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Post by carookie on Jun 29, 2016 12:02:34 GMT -6
First year as a varsity DC we head into the playoffs as the #3 seed, our only loss being a 14-7 upset the week before. Our first rd matchup is against a team we already had taken care of in week 5, but I still worked hard to come up with what I thought was a solid gameplan. We end up losing by like 20 in a shootout.
We had a number of key injuries on the defensive end (2 LBs and our NG) but I still feel like we shouldve won. It is the only game I have ever coached where I feel directly responsible for the team losing (ie not losing to a better team, or not losing by some fluke breaks, but losing because what I was in charge of failed). My only solace was that our opposition ended up boatracing their way through everyone in the playoffs to a state title.
Still I know that if I had been better, we would have been victorious; and that hurts.
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Post by soonerj355alan on Jun 29, 2016 15:09:49 GMT -6
It's a tie for me...
My second year coaching at my first varsity job, we are 9-0 going into week 10 and playing another 9-0 team in our district for the title. In one of the best football games I have ever been a part of we play well but lose a close one. The next week we host a playoff game in the first round vs our biggest rival who we had beaten 34-7 in week one and who had never beaten us in their existence. They had gotten better throughout the year and right before half we throw a pick six and it gave them a huge momentum swing going in at half. We still have the late lead in the 4th quarter when they start their final drive. A few plays in they throw a pass that hits our middle linebacker in the chest and he walks in for six if he catches but he drops it. Later they are in a 4th and long situation where we pressure the QB and he starts to scramble when for some unknown reason our cover 3 corner decides he has to come up and tackle him and the QB pulls up and hits his receiver behind him for a first down. Finally, they get to one yard line and on fourth down run a QB sneak that was signaled very late for the go ahead touchdown. We still do not think their QB ever got in on that play but that's how they called it. The worst part of that year was in the first 9 games we were something like +34 in turnover margin and in those last two we ended up being -8. Still may be the most talented overall team that I have ever coached on.
Later on quite a few years later still coaching at the same place we are on the road in the first round of the playoffs after an 8-2 regular season and winning by 7. Our middle linebacker gets a pick and runs it back for a touchdown late in the game to apparently seal the win. 20 yards behind the play, we get called for a clip that brings the ball back and wipes the score off the board. We go 3 and out after that and they eventually score to tie it and take the game to overtime. We play 5 overtime periods! On the last one we are second to have the ball, down a TD, and have fourth and goal on the one yard line with the best running back in school history taking the hand off after a 250+ yard night when he gets stuffed at the LOS. Might be the toughest loss ever personally for me since I was the offensive line coach and even though we had a great night up front, we couldn't finish that one last yard.
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Post by coachjo14 on Jun 29, 2016 15:16:38 GMT -6
The craziest part is some of our biggest/most memorable wins are almost the same as these losses just with the roles reversed. I can think of a number of games where the boys bowed their necks and found a way to seal a game.
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Post by wolverine55 on Jun 29, 2016 16:02:19 GMT -6
The first loss that comes to my mind actually isn't a close, playoff loss; alas, I haven't had many playoff games in general! This was more of a rude awakening as to where we were as a program at the time. At my previous coaching job, we had enough talent to where we had a decent season year 1...and then the talent level fell off dramatically and we knew we had a rebuild at that time. Second year we went 2-7 and we thought we were going to be better year 3. Get off to an 0-2 start against great competition and play another 0-2 team week 3. Thought it was a game we had a good shot at winning...and lost 42-0! As I said in the beginning, it was definitely a rude awaking in terms of how far we still had to go!
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Post by coachjo14 on Jun 29, 2016 16:15:01 GMT -6
wolverine55A friend of mine was 0-5 and had an 0-5 team coming in. His team was pumped and they knew they were gonna go get them one.. Not so much. Took a running clock L. These things happen.
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Post by WolvesHC on Jun 29, 2016 19:44:24 GMT -6
It was 1995 my junior year in HS. First round of WPIAL playoffs. We were 7-2 and #8 seed playing against 9-0 #1 seed. We were a tough scrappy bunch that didn't give a sh!t who we were playing. Not overly talented but tough as nails. The team we were playing was #1 in state and pitched 7 shutouts in 9 games. The tailback rushed for over 2,000 yards and was in his way to Notre Dame. I remember nobody believed we had any chance of beating them except for ourselves and our staff. We kicked off and stoned them...3 and out. We then proceed to march down the field in no huddle wing-t and score. They were stunned as it was first score of any kind they allowed in 5 games. I remember how loud the crowd was prior to kickoff and how quiet it got. We were pumped. We stopped then again and marched back down the field to kick a FG and go up 9-0 in the 2nd. We had a very good TE who would play at Wake Forest get hurt on our third drive and be out the rest of the game. If anyone that runs Delaware wing T you know how crucial the TE is in your scheme. It changed everything for us on offense. We continued to play great on D and held the Notre Dame Arab to lowest output if season. With our O sputtering we could not hold the lead and they scored with 4 minutes left to take a 14-9 lead. We get in the huddle and I remember the confidence we had. We were all like we have 4 minutes we can do this. We start matching down the field and our SE makes a great 30 yard reception putting us at the 11 yard line with just over 2 minutes left. Plenty of time to run the ball. We call a pass and our drag man looks to be weight open in the end zone. Flat defender reads it and picks it off 2 yards deep in the end zone and runs it back 102 yards. Game Over! They would go on to be state runner up. We were devastated and our high school never won a playoff game after that. The school consolidated last year. I think about that game I swear every day and what could have been.
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Post by fantom on Jun 29, 2016 20:09:06 GMT -6
It was 1995 my junior year in HS. First round of WPIAL playoffs. We were 7-2 and #8 seed playing against 9-0 #1 seed. We were a tough scrappy bunch that didn't give a sh!t who we were playing. Not overly talented but tough as nails. The team we were playing was #1 in state and pitched 7 shutouts in 9 games. The tailback rushed for over 2,000 yards and was in his way to Notre Dame. I remember nobody believed we had any chance of beating them except for ourselves and our staff. We kicked off and stoned them...3 and out. We then proceed to march down the field in no huddle wing-t and score. They were stunned as it was first score of any kind they allowed in 5 games. I remember how loud the crowd was prior to kickoff and how quiet it got. We were pumped. We stopped then again and marched back down the field to kick a FG and go up 9-0 in the 2nd. We had a very good TE who would play at Wake Forest get hurt on our third drive and be out the rest of the game. If anyone that runs Delaware wing T you know how crucial the TE is in your scheme. It changed everything for us on offense. We continued to play great on D and held the Notre Dame Arab to lowest output if season. With our O sputtering we could not hold the lead and they scored with 4 minutes left to take a 14-9 lead. We get in the huddle and I remember the confidence we had. We were all like we have 4 minutes we can do this. We start matching down the field and our SE makes a great 30 yard reception putting us at the 11 yard line with just over 2 minutes left. Plenty of time to run the ball. We call a pass and our drag man looks to be weight open in the end zone. Flat defender reads it and picks it off 2 yards deep in the end zone and runs it back 102 yards. Game Over! They would go on to be state runner up. We were devastated and our high school never won a playoff game after that. The school consolidated last year. I think about that game I swear every day and what could have been. State runner-up means that they lost in the championship game. Think your loss hurt you more than theirs did?
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Post by jg78 on Jun 29, 2016 20:33:07 GMT -6
My toughest loss would be the first game of the season in my second year as a head coach in 2011. We lost 18-7 to our rival in a game where we played and coached very poorly. And the disappointment wasn't just in losing that game so much as how it fit into the context of the overall season. We had a really tough schedule that year with two very good football teams coming up the next two weeks. I walked to midfield to shake hands after the game knowing we were staring down the barrel of an 0-3 start and probable losing season (finished 3-7).
In the long run, though, that loss was a good thing. We had a young team and refocused and went back to the drawing board that offseason. We installed the Wing-T and scored over 500 points the next year en route to a 10-3 state runner-up season. We also beat the beat the daylights out of our rival with basically the same personnel for both sides as the previous year. That was one of the most satisfying wins of my career, and I think the pain and disappointment of losing to them the year before really inspired us to do great things that year.
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Post by dblwngr on Jun 30, 2016 0:09:49 GMT -6
Zero to zero game with a good conference rival through nearly 4 qtrs.
They score late in the 4th, get a punt block and are about to score from the 5 again and its 4th down. We call a TO and I give a huddle speach about winning one snap, etc, etc, get the strip, ect......AND WE FRIGGN FORCE A FUMBLE AND RECOVER ON THE 2.
Inspired by our defense, we drive 98 yards in 2 minutes, score a TD and decide to go for 2 for the win with the fake extra point we've been practicing for weeks! Now was the time!
We fake the kick, flip to our wing around the end for the run/pass option, HE RUNS IN UNTOUCHED...............
........ inverted whistle....no play.....ref says, "I'm so sorry coach, I blew that call", so sorry, my bad....we vomit in our own mouths...replay the extra point...get stuffed...game over we lose 6 to 7
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Post by hunhdisciple on Jun 30, 2016 7:56:13 GMT -6
Zero to zero game with a good conference rival through nearly 4 qtrs. They score late in the 4th, get a punt block and are about to score from the 5 again and its 4th down. We call a TO and I give a huddle speach about winning one snap, etc, etc, get the strip, ect......AND WE FRIGGN FORCE A FUMBLE AND RECOVER ON THE 2. Inspired by our defense, we drive 98 yards in 2 minutes, score a TD and decide to go for 2 for the win with the fake extra point we've been practicing for weeks! Now was the time! We fake the kick, flip to our wing around the end for the run/pass option, HE RUNS IN UNTOUCHED............... ........ inverted whistle....no play.....ref says, "I'm so sorry coach, I blew that call", so sorry, my bad....we vomit in our own mouths...reply the extra point...get stuffed...game over we lose 6 to 7 I have no words for that. I might have fought everyone.
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Post by fantom on Jun 30, 2016 8:18:54 GMT -6
Zero to zero game with a good conference rival through nearly 4 qtrs. They score late in the 4th, get a punt block and are about to score from the 5 again and its 4th down. We call a TO and I give a huddle speach about winning one snap, etc, etc, get the strip, ect......AND WE FRIGGN FORCE A FUMBLE AND RECOVER ON THE 2. Inspired by our defense, we drive 98 yards in 2 minutes, score a TD and decide to go for 2 for the win with the fake extra point we've been practicing for weeks! Now was the time! We fake the kick, flip to our wing around the end for the run/pass option, HE RUNS IN UNTOUCHED............... ........ inverted whistle....no play.....ref says, "I'm so sorry coach, I blew that call", so sorry, my bad....we vomit in our own mouths...reply the extra point...get stuffed...game over we lose 6 to 7 Lost (Probably) on an inadvertent whistle once. Down 3-0 in the 4th we blocked a FG attempt. As the guy was running, with nobody within 20 yards, the whistle blew. Ref confused it with a PAT.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jun 30, 2016 8:27:08 GMT -6
Zero to zero game with a good conference rival through nearly 4 qtrs. They score late in the 4th, get a punt block and are about to score from the 5 again and its 4th down. We call a TO and I give a huddle speach about winning one snap, etc, etc, get the strip, ect......AND WE FRIGGN FORCE A FUMBLE AND RECOVER ON THE 2. Inspired by our defense, we drive 98 yards in 2 minutes, score a TD and decide to go for 2 for the win with the fake extra point we've been practicing for weeks! Now was the time! We fake the kick, flip to our wing around the end for the run/pass option, HE RUNS IN UNTOUCHED............... ........ inverted whistle....no play.....ref says, "I'm so sorry coach, I blew that call", so sorry, my bad....we vomit in our own mouths...reply the extra point...get stuffed...game over we lose 6 to 7 Lost (Probably) on an inadvertent whistle once. Down 3-0 in the 4th we blocked a FG attempt. As the guy was running, with nobody within 20 yards, the whistle blew. Ref confused it with a PAT. It didn't cost us the game by any means but we had a kid who had never scored a TD in his playing career take an onside kick to the house. They called it back because the kid kicked off before the ref blew his whistle.
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Post by coachorm on Jun 30, 2016 10:08:36 GMT -6
I have two....
This first was when I was a DC. We played a team that was pretty good but we felt prior to the game we could hang with them and beat them. I told the HC before the game if he could score a couple times I thought we could play good enough defensively to beat them. Defensively we played a hell of a game. Only gave up two scores. First one was on a FB trap and My Mike was on a blitz to the opposite side (dumb play call right?). The second was late in the fourth when our offense had given the ball over quickly again.
Second and probably the hardest was about 3 years ago against a rival. We went into the game 7-1 ranked in the state. The team we played, who is about 12 miles away, was 0-7 at the time. I was the OC in this game. On film this team was not impressive at all. They ran a spread offense and a base 44 defense. We start the game and they come out in double tight running Split back veer. We ran a 5 man front at the time. They destroyed us with outside veer. We couldnt stop it and as a coaching staff we panicked. Tried to make adjustments at halftime but nothing worked. Offensively we scored at will on this team. Just about everything we did worked. The game was high scoring, cant even remember final score. But the it came down to them driving down the field with under a minute in their spread formation. On fourth down our DE who walked on at a D1 program decides not to rush and to play pass coverage. He had a free rush to the QB for a game ending sack. Instead the kid scrambles and finds a wr in the back of the endzone for a TD with 4 seconds left. Since that game we have always been prepared for sbv everygame. Also that team, who still has the same coach, has yet to run sbv in a game again.
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Post by wamp19 on Jun 30, 2016 10:25:47 GMT -6
Senior year of high school. We come out and return the opening kick off for a TD. Go up 20-0 in the first quarter. Team goes flat after that expecting the other team to roll over.
In the 4th quarter they score to make the game 27-26. Coach called a timeout and told us they were going to fake the PAT. They do. MLB who has a club on his arm makes a perfect read and goes to pick it off instead of knocking it down. The ball ends up popping up and landing right in the hands of the receiver behind him.
They win 28-27
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Post by groundchuck on Jun 30, 2016 13:46:17 GMT -6
Toss up between:
1. 2009 they just scored to go up 21-20 with 1:05 to go. We blew the KOR and took over on the -5. We ran a draw and our TB broke it across midfield. We got to +5 with maybe :15 and got a holding penalty and wound up backed up on 3rd down. We ran a play we practiced the day before from that exact spot. Kids were pumped. We threw it up, our 1000 yard receiver (yes a coach named groundchuck does use the tools he is given and sometimes embraces the forward pass) caught it. Signal TD. Oh wait....laundry on the field. The receiver on the far side was not on the LOS. We only had 6 men on the LOS. We had to put it up again and this time it was incomplete. This one was tough to take because we went from looking like we won it on basically the last play to losing it. I have never been so high and then so low so fast. WE did beat them the next year by a score of 21-20.
2. 2013....up 18-0 at the start of the 4th. Lost 19-18. The had negative yards through three quarters. But they blocked a punt and recovered it for a score, we botched a KOR and took over on the 10 and went three and out. They scored a few plays later....you get the drift. Our sure tackling all-state MLB who was playing great all game missed a tackle on a midline.....others started not doing their jobs. This was tough because we just blew it. No excuses we just stopped making plays and could not put them away. Even if we pick up 2 more first downs on the drive where the punt gets blocked we are not in that situation.
The staff and I learned a lot from those losses but I would rather have those two back and learn nothing and be 1-0 for the week. Losing sucks. At least we have been on the good end of some "wheels falling off" situations too over the same time span.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Jul 1, 2016 7:35:42 GMT -6
2006, my 3rd year as HC. Small town Mid-Michigan football. Everyone was there. We were a lower tier team playing the best team in the conference. They had been a conference powerhouse for years. Class HC.
Home game, and we had them on the ropes. I had a RB who was about 5'4/130 lb. and he was eating their lunch. We drove down and scored to take the lead with about 90 seconds on the clock.
The town went berserk. We kicked our XP to go up by six.
My stud TE came off the field looking pissed as hell. At first, I thought someone gave him a cheap shot, or he was hurt.
I asked him what was wrong, and if he was okay. He looked at me and yelled, "well, I'd like the damn ball!"
We actually tried to get him the ball on a couple of bootleg's but the QB threw elsewhere, but that is beside the point.
I said, 'dude, we're about to get the biggest win in school history, and you're crying right now?! Come on man help us get this win.'
I thought he would be inspired by my words, and I turned around to get the kickoff team ready. A few seconds later, I heard this huge explosion. You guessed it, he slammed his helmet on the ground.
At that point, I had an assistant remove him from the sideline and into the locker room. It just so happens that he was a stud DE and our opponent knew that. So, being the great team they were, they drove down the field running to the side where our stud previously played.
I tried with all my might to make adjustments in that short amount of time.
We held them to a 3rd down stop on our own 2 yd line. They scored with .7 seconds on the clock to tie it up, then kicked the PAT and won the game.
I always reflect on how I might have handled the situation differently. I was young at the time, and was big on discipline and respect. I still think I would have done the same thing, but wonder what other personnel adjustments I could have made. With a roster of 22 kids, there were only so many options that I had.
That opponent has since gone on to become a state powerhouse. But my little guys shook them up for a bit.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jul 1, 2016 8:08:24 GMT -6
2006, my 3rd year as HC. Small town Mid-Michigan football. Everyone was there. We were a lower tier team playing the best team in the conference. They had been a conference powerhouse for years. Class HC. Home game, and we had them on the ropes. I had a RB who was about 5'4/130 lb. and he was eating their lunch. We drove down and scored to take the lead with about 90 seconds on the clock. The town went berserk. We kicked our XP to go up by six. My stud TE came off the field looking pissed as hell. At first, I thought someone gave him a cheap shot, or he was hurt. I asked him what was wrong, and if he was okay. He looked at me and yelled, "well, I'd like the damn ball!" We actually tried to get him the ball on a couple of bootleg's but the QB threw elsewhere, but that is beside the point. I said, 'dude, we're about to get the biggest win in school history, and you're crying right now?! Come on man help us get this win.' I thought he would be inspired by my words, and I turned around to get the kickoff team ready. A few seconds later, I heard this huge explosion. You guessed it, he slammed his helmet on the ground. At that point, I had an assistant remove him from the sideline and into the locker room. It just so happens that he was a stud DE and our opponent knew that. So, being the great team they were, they drove down the field running to the side where our stud previously played. I tried with all my might to make adjustments in that short amount of time. We held them to a 3rd down stop on our own 2 yd line. They scored with .7 seconds on the clock to tie it up, then kicked the PAT and won the game. I always reflect on how I might have handled the situation differently. I was young at the time, and was big on discipline and respect. I still think I would have done the same thing, but wonder what other personnel adjustments I could have made. With a roster of 22 kids, there were only so many options that I had. That opponent has since gone on to become a state powerhouse. But my little guys shook them up for a bit. From a discipline point I think you probably handled it right. What the player did is not ok, but we all already know that. It's funny how kids would rather beast up their stats than get a W. I had a kid opposite of this last year. He was a slot receiver and the best athlete on our JV team easily, if not the best athlete in our program. They came off the field for a series and he looked pissed or hurt or something. I asked him what was wrong and he was just mad we drove down to their 30 and didn't get a score. Told him I was going to look to get him the ball on the next series. He says "coach, don't worry about me. Just keep running zone down their throats. They can't stop it. Let's put this game out of reach and get that W. There are plenty of chances for me to make more plays and score this year."
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Post by fantom on Jul 1, 2016 8:10:04 GMT -6
2006, my 3rd year as HC. Small town Mid-Michigan football. Everyone was there. We were a lower tier team playing the best team in the conference. They had been a conference powerhouse for years. Class HC. Home game, and we had them on the ropes. I had a RB who was about 5'4/130 lb. and he was eating their lunch. We drove down and scored to take the lead with about 90 seconds on the clock. The town went berserk. We kicked our XP to go up by six. My stud TE came off the field looking pissed as hell. At first, I thought someone gave him a cheap shot, or he was hurt. I asked him what was wrong, and if he was okay. He looked at me and yelled, "well, I'd like the damn ball!" We actually tried to get him the ball on a couple of bootleg's but the QB threw elsewhere, but that is beside the point. I said, 'dude, we're about to get the biggest win in school history, and you're crying right now?! Come on man help us get this win.' I thought he would be inspired by my words, and I turned around to get the kickoff team ready. A few seconds later, I heard this huge explosion. You guessed it, he slammed his helmet on the ground. At that point, I had an assistant remove him from the sideline and into the locker room. It just so happens that he was a stud DE and our opponent knew that. So, being the great team they were, they drove down the field running to the side where our stud previously played. I tried with all my might to make adjustments in that short amount of time. We held them to a 3rd down stop on our own 2 yd line. They scored with .7 seconds on the clock to tie it up, then kicked the PAT and won the game. I always reflect on how I might have handled the situation differently. I was young at the time, and was big on discipline and respect. I still think I would have done the same thing, but wonder what other personnel adjustments I could have made. With a roster of 22 kids, there were only so many options that I had. That opponent has since gone on to become a state powerhouse. But my little guys shook them up for a bit. I think that way to go might have been the Sgt. Schultz route: "I see nothing. I hear nothing". Let the kid take it out on the bad guys.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Jul 1, 2016 8:29:48 GMT -6
2006, my 3rd year as HC. Small town Mid-Michigan football. Everyone was there. We were a lower tier team playing the best team in the conference. They had been a conference powerhouse for years. Class HC. Home game, and we had them on the ropes. I had a RB who was about 5'4/130 lb. and he was eating their lunch. We drove down and scored to take the lead with about 90 seconds on the clock. The town went berserk. We kicked our XP to go up by six. My stud TE came off the field looking pissed as hell. At first, I thought someone gave him a cheap shot, or he was hurt. I asked him what was wrong, and if he was okay. He looked at me and yelled, "well, I'd like the damn ball!" We actually tried to get him the ball on a couple of bootleg's but the QB threw elsewhere, but that is beside the point. I said, 'dude, we're about to get the biggest win in school history, and you're crying right now?! Come on man help us get this win.' I thought he would be inspired by my words, and I turned around to get the kickoff team ready. A few seconds later, I heard this huge explosion. You guessed it, he slammed his helmet on the ground. At that point, I had an assistant remove him from the sideline and into the locker room. It just so happens that he was a stud DE and our opponent knew that. So, being the great team they were, they drove down the field running to the side where our stud previously played. I tried with all my might to make adjustments in that short amount of time. We held them to a 3rd down stop on our own 2 yd line. They scored with .7 seconds on the clock to tie it up, then kicked the PAT and won the game. I always reflect on how I might have handled the situation differently. I was young at the time, and was big on discipline and respect. I still think I would have done the same thing, but wonder what other personnel adjustments I could have made. With a roster of 22 kids, there were only so many options that I had. That opponent has since gone on to become a state powerhouse. But my little guys shook them up for a bit. I think that way to go might have been the Sgt. Schultz route: "I see nothing. I hear nothing". Let the kid take it out on the bad guys. It's just not in my nature to ignore open disrespect. I think what I think about most is what I could have said to him to quell the situation in order to prevent him from getting more mad or continuing to harbor that anger.
Given the situation, it was intense on the sidelines, as you can imagine. In my haste to get back to the game, I dismissed how angry he actually was instead of calming him down and letting him know how important he was to us at that particular moment time.
We might have lost the game anyway because they were just that good.
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Post by coachjo14 on Jul 1, 2016 9:42:29 GMT -6
shocktroop34I support your decision 100%. Hindsight is 20/20 and you're right it's possible you might have been able to calm the kid down and keep him in the mix or it could have been like a situation I had once as a young head coach. I tried to reel a kid back in and he was just going crazy. I didn't have time to deal with it right then as I needed to get a kick team ready and then put my defense on the field. I was also getting frustrated with him and in the heat of the moment was about to pop off on him. So I said "Son we will talk about all of that later, but I have to turn you over to coach X right now". Coach X tries to calm the kid down and the kid is just going crazy. Eventually coach X lost his cool and got the kid straight. Nothing too crazy, but enough that parents from the kid's "group" didn't like this "newcomer from another group" treating their son like that. I had to fight tooth and nail to keep his job. Wildest thing another coach from "their group" blew up on a kid from "outside of their group" and was costing us penalties and almost got me tossed for going off on a referee after already taking a penalty. The "group" had no problem with this. I have always been pretty good about reeling kids back in, but sometimes they are just "on one" and can't be reached in the moment. One thing to keep in mind is the good of the kid can overtake what is good for the KIDS if we allow it to. I've worked with a lot of kids who have in the heat of a "moment" tried their best to get a coach fired. LOL
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Post by fantom on Jul 1, 2016 10:15:49 GMT -6
I think that way to go might have been the Sgt. Schultz route: "I see nothing. I hear nothing". Let the kid take it out on the bad guys. It's just not in my nature to ignore open disrespect. I think what I think about most is what I could have said to him to quell the situation in order to prevent him from getting more mad or continuing to harbor that anger.
Given the situation, it was intense on the sidelines, as you can imagine. In my haste to get back to the game, I dismissed how angry he actually was instead of calming him down and letting him know how important he was to us at that particular moment time.
We might have lost the game anyway because they were just that good.
Disrespect or emotion?
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