Are you SERIOUS?!?!

I think Florida should play OSU. Just my opinion.

gregodagr8, where at in LA are you ?

Florida beat So. Miss / UCF / Tenn/ Kentucky / Bama / LSU / Georgia / Vandy / So. Carolina / W. Carolina / FSU / Arkansas

Michigan beat Vandy / C. Michigan / Notre Dame / Wisconsin / Minnesota / MSU / PSU / Iowa / Northwestern / Ball State / Indiana /

if USC doesn't lose to UCLA, we wouldn't even be having this discussion....

I can see the argument for the rematch of Michigan OSU, but that game was essentially over the start of the 2nd half...WHO WANTS TO SEE THAT GAME (again) besides Big Ten fans?

If the Big Ten had a championship game (my major gripe against the Big Ten) you eliminate #1 and #2 teams being from the same conference. But then, why would the Big Ten do that when they are sharing revenues of BCS games amongst the conference?

Looks like Notre Dame is going to be getting beat by LSU>

Michigan / USC would be a good matchup - I'll take UM there
Auburn / Nebraska
BSU / OU


lots of good matchups, IMO.

I've already said I like UF and Urban Meyer so I'm not going to backtrack..

But you have to commend Lloyd Carr for taking the high road and not campaigning for his team like Meyer has been doing. Reminds me of what Mack Brown did two years ago for UT.

No use for me crying over spilt milk for me. GO BLUE against USC.

Big 10 vs SEC let's do it!

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I disagree...if I'm a Michigan fan, I'm p i s s e d that Carr WASN'T politicking...what good did "taking the high road" do for him? Absolutely nothing. Good for Meyer for using the media to promote Florida's chances for playing in the national championship game. Carr should have been doing the same![/quote]

Not when it makes you resort to bashing another team, which Meyer did w/Michigan. You should never have to trash another team to promote yours. Carr let his team's play speak for itself. Losing by 3 to the number one team on the road and having that be your only loss should have spoke volumes, but I guess Meyer's mouth and Florida's thumping of Western Carolina was louder ;D

I do think Meyer was heard though. Don't forget the Harris poll too Huey. You mean to tell me Michigan was ahead of Florida in both polls for 7-8 weeks and NOW all of a sudden Florida looks like the better team?

My hat is off to Carr and if everyone returns next year Michigan should be loaded with talent. Go Blue!

Over by the start of the second half? Pretty sure it was a 3 point loss for Michigan and a bad penalty call that kept a drive going for Ohio State.

The BCS is supposed to put the 2 best teams in D1 football together for a NC. Dos'nt matter if they played each other 3 weeks ago. Dos'nt matter if they did'nt win their own conference (Nebraska anybody??). Bottom line is the system is flawed and we will never have a TRUE National championship until there is a playoff system.

how did meyer talking convince the sagarin computer or the harris rating or the other computers? the coaches did vote more for florida this time around ... were these HC's swayed by meyer's public promotion, or did they feel florida vs ohio state would be better irregardless of meyer's view. and, could that campaign affect that many coaches (who have probably been voting similarly for a while) so that 1 poll could affect the entire bcs that much? or, was it just the slow, gradual adjustments each computer made after florida played their last game that allowed their ranking to end up higher.

some say "sec is screwed they have to play a championship game" (as well as big 12, acc, etc.) .... other's now saying "big 10 is screwed, they don't have a championship game" ...

gotta' love all the debates, no?

what i'm saying is, yes the human element is what affected this. however, i find it silly that the reason is because of something urban meyer said in the media. i feel it is because the human voters (coaches/meida in the 'know' - supposedly .lol) felt florida vs ohio state was a better matchup for any number of reasons ... the least of which think had to do with urban meyer

The irony is that the BCS was created to end the days where the voters, coach and media, determined the national champion ("determine it on the field"). Then we had teams who were bumped up by the "computers" and we scaled that back, things like point differential, strength of schedule, etc in favor of the "common sense" of the voters. Now it's back to the human voters.

The beauty of a multi-team playoff is that the teams that get left out are tougher to make a case for. I know in the lower divisions Valdosta St got left out of the playoffs and a team they had a better record than and beat got in. Are playoffs perfect? I'm not even going to go that far. Anyone who has ever lost a playoff game knows it comes down to bounces, etc. Were the Steelers the best team in the NFL last year? Or simply the best over that 3 week period? What does a championship really crown? "You were the best team this year" or "you managed to win all of your games over this playoff period and did well enough to get in in the first place." I know I'm not making perfect sense right now, but I'm just saying that playoffs aren't the cure all either, or at least have their flaws.

We simply have a system now that crowns the national champion based on gut reactions and some computer-geek attempts at making order out of the chaos of having 110 or so teams that don't all play each other and play wildly different competition. A playoff would be fairly nonsensical too at the margins, and, let's be honest, in football one game win/lose doesn't tell me in any metaphysical sense who the Best Team For the Year of 2006 is. (We could be having a debate right now about who the #4 team should be in a 4 team playoff. Wisconsin? LSU? Louisville maybe? Boise State hasn;t lost? Certainly the stakes feel like less, but that's no easier. Picking 8 teams is just as nonsensical. USC, West Virginia, Boise, Oklahoma? The old Notre Dame debate again?).

You have to draw the line somewhere. We have one game, this is who got picked. It's not facially wrong. Michigan is not better than Florida in some total metaphysical sense. They may actually be better, but you can't prove it to anyone, so guess what. Let's roll with it.

Urban Meyer got people talking about Florida. He lobbied, and got over. Just a week ago Florida was a long shot to get to the title game, even if SC lost. Now they are there. Him saying if they didn't make it, the system was broken and needed to go to a playoff.

Props to Meyer for getting over. Loyd Carr should have been pumping up his team in the press. Saying how they wanted OSU REAL BAD! How on a neutral field "things would be different". But he didn't and there you go.

That's all I'm saying, Huey. You are probably right that Meyer's comments didn't have a lot to do with the way things played out, however, I think that it is wrong to criticize Meyer for using the media to promote Florida's case.

With something as subjective, tempermental, and arbitrary, as the BCS, coaches are foolish to leave anything to chance. Carr should have been campaigning much more the last few weeks.

Whether Meyer's comments swayed the polls or not, I think it's his job to get his the best oppertunity he possibly can for his players. The head coach has to go to bat for his players as their voice to the public. According to computers and win losses, his team played the toughest schedule in the NCAA. I'm not saying they are better than Michigan, but Mich already had their shot at OSU and couldn't get the job done. Looking back at it I'm sure he would do it again in a heartbeat just as any of us would what what we could to give our players the very best oppertunities.

Go Gators!!!!!