Anyone else sick of "clinic" speak?

I agree 100%...half the battle of being a young coach looking to learn is trying to figure out the different verbage that every coach has....when you have 5 or 6 names for the same play there is a problem....

Nothing gives me the red ass more than listen to some guy spend 20-25 minutes telling us about himself, his program, his mentors, what he had for breakfast and then jam through his hour presentation in the last 35-40 minutes. 5 minutes cool and get on with it.

Guys who use all the catch words and buzz phrases that are the "cool" things to say now. I have seen people talking about "how expensive a play is" or "what will it cost me" "does this play cost to much" "doesnt cost me anything to run it" why not just say how much time am I looking at. I just think some people try and over complicate things with all kinds of cool words and phrases to explain stuff. Just tell me what you mean! LOL

Form another point of view, I get more irritated about it on the board than I do in clinics.

I can't stand when somebody is like, "Hi guys, I need some drills for my dawgs and stingers." I mean, what the hell is that?? What in the name of god are these positions you are talking about? I know it makes us all feel good to use our terminology and sound creative, but wtf? Is it really that hard to say "outside LB" or something like that?

It's the same with scheme names. I get irritated when someone is like "Can anyone tell me how to better run Apocalypse Coverage?" Then you respond with "Coach, what in all of creation is that?" and they say something helpful like "Well, it's a version of West Virginia's Nuclear Winter coverage, except with a Spur playing in the OLB position."

Honestly, how the hell are most of us supposed to know what cute little names your favorite college coach uses for cover 2?

This is, of course, just an example of something that might frustrate me. But honestly, just say what you mean and stop using all of these wonderfully creative and smart-sounding terms. I've never seen a TV announcer saying "Tyrone Jackson is starting today at the BUTCHER position." I mean, just, arrrgghhh....whatever.

Off topic a bit, but I rode with the DC from Jenks Oklahoma ( Perennial Top 10 USA Today etc) last weekend at a clinic and he said it was a down year for them, only 3-4 DI kids. He said one year they had 15 kids on the team that ended up going DI.

How much of a players development can be attributed to coaching ?

Teams in Texas, Oklahoma that have football classes, spring football and year round development you would think would put their kids ahead of kids in many states including mine where they have none of that. Amazing so many DI kids could come out of one public school. And bordering Jenks is UNion, the Union and Jenks kids are buddies, grow up playing with and against each other, same neighborhood. You guessed it, Union is usually nationally ranked as well. Thought provoking question.

He did admit his kids probably got more looks because they won so much, so it may be skewed just a bit. But both teams seem to be winning every year, long term etc.

Dave, this is a worthwhile question but you're right, it is off of this topic. Go ahead and start another thread with it.

You dont?

My complaints about the board are simply when coaches assume there is a commonality among terms...be it positions (stinger, buzzers, dogs, spurs, minotaurs, mermaids, or dipsquats) or coverages. Countless times you see people asking about cover (insert #)...which invariably means 20 different things to 20 different coaches....

Hill Larry Us...

And by that, I mean...

Hilarious!

I agree 100% that the point of a clinic is to learn, but if you spend half the time trying to figure out a coach's "language" you do not get the full experience...

I understand that there is more than one way to skin a cat and that is not the problem I have. It is when you say well instead of skinning the cat we are scalping a cat or dehairing a cat. Same concept but every coach has their own way of saying it.

I was talking to an old coach who told me a story about spending 45 minutes with a young guy going over a concept only to realize in the end the old guy runs the exact same thing, just calls it something different....

How much of difference is there between blast, lead, and power or jet and fly sweep. Do they really need to be called different things? I am not saying one name is better than the other, but lets pick one and go with it...

Sometimes I get the feeling coaches want to sound important or maybe sell some videos because they come with a "new idea" which is just a play off the old ideas but called something else

Lochness, I agree. That is why I thought the one post about how the coach had his kids call the ISO play at the line (very simple and basic scheme) was such a great post. The coach who posted it was humble, descriptive and went into great detail to explain it. That was an example of a great post. But maybe it is just coming from a guy that is just short a few bricks.

Hard to beat these Penn State terms:

"Fritz" is weakside linebacker. Named after Frank "Fritz" DeFluri, pizza shop owner in State College during the 1950's.

"Backer" only applies to the middle LB. The more common "Sam" is the strongside LB.

"Hero" is the strong safety.

Growing up a Penn State fan, and having spent three years in State College, you almost assume everyone knows what these terms mean (and most Penn State fans do), but outside of the fandom, and outside of State College, most don't.

Jet motion, Fly motion. Pretty much the same thing. But you won't catch me using wing-t terms in my spread offense. Which just goes to show where most of the different verbiage comes from.... I think.