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Post by John Knight on Mar 22, 2016 10:09:38 GMT -6
Hope Coach Vint knows we are just pulling his chain, he is doing good work!
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Post by Coach Vint on Mar 22, 2016 13:31:14 GMT -6
I am copywriting the endorsement as we speak. I will put in bold print. Perhaps I will tweet it out. John, with there is absolutely nothing wrong with a good laugh. Especially with all that has been going on the last couple of weeks.
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Post by coachcotner on Mar 24, 2016 6:34:22 GMT -6
Communication and effort
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Post by coachirish on Mar 24, 2016 22:50:10 GMT -6
I make a point to tell my players hello and call them by name in the hallways between classes at school. It's goofy but it's one of those important little things imo.
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Post by craines10 on Mar 29, 2016 7:41:50 GMT -6
I believe its in everyday interaction...we finished the year with about 65 kids 9-12 give or take 3...and I know ALL faces..even if I cant remember their name. See them in the hallway give them a fist pound and ask how they are doing, event the graduating seniors who only played 1 year...make it a point to keep tabs on them and speak every day.
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Post by silkyice on Mar 30, 2016 10:02:43 GMT -6
I believe its in everyday interaction...we finished the year with about 65 kids 9-12 give or take 3...and I know ALL faces..even if I cant remember their name. See them in the hallway give them a fist pound and ask how they are doing, event the graduating seniors who only played 1 year...make it a point to keep tabs on them and speak every day. I'm not trying to being a jerk, but you don't know everyone on the team's name? Your post is just the straw that broke the camel's back, so this isn't all just directed at you. But I keep seeing comments like just make sure you say hey to your kids in the hall or whatever. Do we actually have coaches on here that ignore their players or not speak to them?
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Post by Sparkey on Mar 30, 2016 10:39:24 GMT -6
Group hugs work!
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Post by stu on Mar 30, 2016 10:55:36 GMT -6
agree with a lot of what I've seen.
use social media, text, to talk to them. see how things are going, ask em about their parents, grades, etc... life away from you as a teacher / coach occasionally.
go to events. if their in choir, speech, other sports, etc. if you have time maybe volunteer at times to help those programs out.
if you see them in the halls, weight room, try to talk to them - as many as possible - a little. doesn't have to great in depth conversations - just basic stuff. And obviously, if you can remember your earlier conversations and bring those items that might be relevant back up again, even better.
and I do - especially in the off-season in the weight room - try to get them to know the lighter side of myself. with the jokes and conversation etc.....always making sure your not getting too friendly of course but again, being approachable, letting them see me as more than a coach and history teacher but someone with real interests outside of football - fishing, etc. - that might be something they can relate to.
I like meeting and trying to set goals, etc... and talking about life and things that have nothing really to do with their football. have to be able to let them know that if they ever need anything - you'll try to be there. obviously there are some situations that you may not be able to handle and deal with on your own - in extreme cases maybe at all -
but if a kid's parents are getting divorced or a death in the family, etc... be approachable. there are some instances sure, where you need that wall and separation. but an open door policy has to mean more than just having an open door. they have to know that you're approachable and you're not going to judge them unfairly, etc. another great time I've found for me is when someone comes into the equipment room or coming in and out of the locker room after practice. For some kids, simply acknowledging them as they walk by you and remembering something about them or commenting on their performance, etc... can mean an awful lot.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Mar 30, 2016 11:12:14 GMT -6
I hate to beat a dead horse, but isn't doing your job showing that you care? Isn't the fact that their on a football team learning lessons such as toughness and discipline a way for them to become lifelong learners.
I'm sorry, hate to sound like a jerk but our society is becoming a little too touchy feely.
They know you care by doing a good job.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Mar 30, 2016 13:09:56 GMT -6
I don't get this at all. What are you worried about? Seriously, even at17/18 your former players can look to you for advice which shouldn't be an issue. College & post-college life has a whole different atmosphere of issues that you could help see your players through. I'm in my 40's (I'M A MAN!!!)...and I heed my dad's advice like it was coming from a burning bush. I can only imagine the need for kids who don't have that fatherly figure to lean on. I'm not judging, as everyone is not comfortable in that role. In fact, I would rather have a guy be "straight up" with me about this subject, instead of faking it with kids. However, (I personally) would be building my staff around those that were willing to extend themselves in a way that could meet their needs on and off the field. During my time in the Marines, we had this saying that 'we were Marines 24 hours a day.' I look at the profession of teaching and coaching in the same manner. 24/7...365, family comes first, but I'll make time for my guys.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Mar 30, 2016 13:48:00 GMT -6
I'm sorry, hate to sound like a jerk but our society is becoming a little too touchy feely. They know you care by doing a good job. Coach, I can't argue with you in the sense that our society is getting soft, but I would argue that our profession of coaching football is not. I believe that our fundamental principles of teaching young men to become upstanding grown men are still in place. And with all of the other adversarial issues out there threatening our sporting lifestyle, as long as we stay committed to investing in young people, football will be fine. I ask this question rhetorically, as I truly don't have a clear answer, but I wonder how the coaching greats of the past would weigh in on this subject. Would Vince Lombardi take his phone off the hook when he arrived at home? How would John Wooden deal with guys needing more of his attention off the court? I just recently watched a documentary on basketball coach Dean Smith (UNC). There was much more dialog about the person he was to his players off the court than on it. I understand that times are different, but in many ways, the needs of young men are still the same. To me, the great coaches of the past knew that if they wanted to get the most out of their players, they had to invest in various different ways. Most of those ways involved situations that happened away from school and the field. 9 times out of 10, when they call it will be an inconvenience. But something in me just always wanted to be the guy that they wanted to call. I hope I never loose that.
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Post by coachklee on Mar 30, 2016 18:06:32 GMT -6
Oh yeah, and you'd be amazed at how far a burger and fries goes in winning over kids lol. ...or a Gatorade!
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Post by dubber on Mar 30, 2016 19:18:21 GMT -6
We went to every home basketball game in last year....ended up adding 3 WR's to the roster.
At the smallest classification in Indiana, we have 6'5'' and 6'3'' starting Splits.
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Post by blb on Mar 31, 2016 5:56:28 GMT -6
The most valuable thing you have to give them is your time.
Many good suggestions in this thread. Biggest thing is just being there and talking to them.
I would be careful to avoid stalker-ish things involving social media, however. Keep the relationship coach-player.
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Post by pistolwhipped on Mar 31, 2016 6:40:22 GMT -6
We went to every home basketball game in last year....ended up adding 3 WR's to the roster. At the smallest classification in Indiana, we have 6'5'' and 6'3'' starting Splits. Those not in Indiana probably can't appreciate what type of undertaking that was. Likely got two really great athletes.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Mar 31, 2016 6:42:01 GMT -6
I don't do much in the texting dept w the kids. I prefer my teacher/student contact in public or public record (email) I will e-mail them via my work e-mail I use a team facebook page (I made a facebook for Mr Dottavio) and send out stats, lift #s, running #s, etc on there I don't have any students on Twitter
I will buy cookies from the cafe and give them to kids with A/B honor roll or high SAT/ACT (high for them of course) I got the workout warriors pullover jackets with FAMILY on them I make a point to discuss our kids that are getting college attention who work hard in classroom/weight room during lifts I get to know them, family, etc and e-mail their parents when they're doing right.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Mar 31, 2016 7:32:31 GMT -6
This sounds like me in a sense...I prefer the face to face interaction. I don't have ANY social media. I do text a bit, but I'd rather look a kid in the face.
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Post by stu on Mar 31, 2016 13:34:40 GMT -6
I hate to beat a dead horse, but isn't doing your job showing that you care? Isn't the fact that their on a football team learning lessons such as toughness and discipline a way for them to become lifelong learners. I'm sorry, hate to sound like a jerk but our society is becoming a little too touchy feely. They know you care by doing a good job. yes and no. 1 billion percent agree on society in general. But no, I don't agree at all that doing your job is enough. I'm never going to be a friend but my job's not getting them on a football team, to me. to me, my job has nothing to do with football. my jobs is getting these young men (and occasionally, yes, young women) into a position off the field to be successful as much if not more so than on. Because what about the young man or men who quit the team or don't go out following a year where they did go out? My job is not done working with and caring about those young men. Just because they might not be in my position group, on the field with us after school or out there on Friday night doesn't matter that much to me. I can't and shouldn't do it by myself. Part of -hopefully- a wide range of adults from family to teachers, coaches, etc. - doing that.
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Post by coachcotner on Apr 4, 2016 13:39:49 GMT -6
We went to every home basketball game in last year....ended up adding 3 WR's to the roster. At the smallest classification in Indiana, we have 6'5'' and 6'3'' starting Splits. Have fun in the redzone PLAC defenses haha. Between that back and those splits it will be tough for teams to defend down there.
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Post by craines10 on Apr 12, 2016 14:14:07 GMT -6
I believe its in everyday interaction...we finished the year with about 65 kids 9-12 give or take 3...and I know ALL faces..even if I cant remember their name. See them in the hallway give them a fist pound and ask how they are doing, event the graduating seniors who only played 1 year...make it a point to keep tabs on them and speak every day. I'm not trying to being a jerk, but you don't know everyone on the team's name? Your post is just the straw that broke the camel's back, so this isn't all just directed at you. But I keep seeing comments like just make sure you say hey to your kids in the hall or whatever. Do we actually have coaches on here that ignore their players or not speak to them? Some names slip my mind. Not very many but it happens! lol
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Post by coachklee on Apr 12, 2016 15:16:18 GMT -6
I'm not trying to being a jerk, but you don't know everyone on the team's name? Your post is just the straw that broke the camel's back, so this isn't all just directed at you. But I keep seeing comments like just make sure you say hey to your kids in the hall or whatever. Do we actually have coaches on here that ignore their players or not speak to them? Some names slip my mind. Not very many but it happens! lol Without being a total a-hole, I can see how you could forget some names if your program is big 60+. Some guys just aren't very memorable. Want me to know your name...do something memorable!
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Post by coachphillip on Apr 12, 2016 15:41:06 GMT -6
Unfortunately, good or bad lol.
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Post by CoachHess on Apr 13, 2016 11:04:20 GMT -6
Give them a hug and tell them you love them. Works wonders.
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Post by fantom on Apr 13, 2016 17:30:44 GMT -6
I'm not trying to being a jerk, but you don't know everyone on the team's name? Your post is just the straw that broke the camel's back, so this isn't all just directed at you. But I keep seeing comments like just make sure you say hey to your kids in the hall or whatever. Do we actually have coaches on here that ignore their players or not speak to them? Some names slip my mind. Not very many but it happens! lol Hate to say it but I forget names all the time. I know their face and their name and when I see either one I can tell you all about them but sometimes I can't put name to face. Wish it wasn't so but it is. The JVs practice separately so, since I don't tach at the school, sometimes I never even learn their names until they come up to varsity.
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Post by silkyice on Apr 14, 2016 10:33:48 GMT -6
]I'm not trying to being a jerk, but you don't know everyone on the team's name? Your post is just the straw that broke the camel's back, so this isn't all just directed at you. But I keep seeing comments like just make sure you say hey to your kids in the hall or whatever. Do we actually have coaches on here that ignore their players or not speak to them? Some names slip my mind. Not very many but it happens! lol Hate to say it but I forget names all the time. I know their face and their name and when I see either one I can tell you all about them but sometimes I can't put name to face. Wish it wasn't so but it is. The JVs practice separately so, since I don't tach at the school, sometimes I never even learn their names until they come up to varsity. Y'all know their names, you just don't recall all of them immediately. I get that and that is not what I was talking about at all. You can still say hey to a kid in the hall or whatever and not recall his name. I know that is not what y'all were saying either. I am not saying that you have to do that every time. Sometimes I am distracted or have something important to do or in a hurry and I just go down the hall. It just sounded like some coaches thought it was a big deal that you spoke to players, and it came across as some coaches just ignore players. That is what amazed me. If you never acknowledge a player or talk with them or say hey and you honestly have no idea what their names are at all, then I cannot even begin to answer the thread question of "How do you show you care?"
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Post by coachklee on Apr 18, 2016 7:05:16 GMT -6
]I'm not trying to being a jerk, but you don't know everyone on the team's name? Your post is just the straw that broke the camel's back, so this isn't all just directed at you. But I keep seeing comments like just make sure you say hey to your kids in the hall or whatever. Do we actually have coaches on here that ignore their players or not speak to them? Hate to say it but I forget names all the time. I know their face and their name and when I see either one I can tell you all about them but sometimes I can't put name to face. Wish it wasn't so but it is. The JVs practice separately so, since I don't tach at the school, sometimes I never even learn their names until they come up to varsity. Y'all know their names, you just don't recall all of them immediately. I get that and that is not what I was talking about at all. You can still say hey to a kid in the hall or whatever and not recall his name. I know that is not what y'all were saying either. I am not saying that you have to do that every time. Sometimes I am distracted or have something important to do or in a hurry and I just go down the hall. It just sounded like some coaches thought it was a big deal that you spoke to players, and it came across as some coaches just ignore players. That is what amazed me. If you never acknowledge a player or talk with them or say hey and you honestly have no idea what their names are at all, then I cannot even begin to answer the thread question of "How do you show you care?" I'm starting to imagine that if I ever met Silky in person he'd have an extremely deep southern accent especially with him use "Y'all" repeatedly in his posts!
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Post by silkyice on Apr 18, 2016 7:41:07 GMT -6
Y'all know their names, you just don't recall all of them immediately. I get that and that is not what I was talking about at all. You can still say hey to a kid in the hall or whatever and not recall his name. I know that is not what y'all were saying either. I am not saying that you have to do that every time. Sometimes I am distracted or have something important to do or in a hurry and I just go down the hall. It just sounded like some coaches thought it was a big deal that you spoke to players, and it came across as some coaches just ignore players. That is what amazed me. If you never acknowledge a player or talk with them or say hey and you honestly have no idea what their names are at all, then I cannot even begin to answer the thread question of "How do you show you care?" I'm starting to imagine that if I ever met Silky in person he'd have an extremely deep southern accent especially with him use "Y'all" repeatedly in his posts! Bless your heart!!
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