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Post by funkfriss on Feb 10, 2016 12:29:12 GMT -6
We cut out the shorts and helmet on Thursdays because our players seemed to lose focus on those days. We made that a shoulder pads & shells type of day but we're still flying around except taking the ball carrier to the ground. It helped our guys focus instead of playing around during practices. We did the same and added a "10 minute game" period on Thursdays. Good vs good, start with a kickoff and played a 10 minutes game complete w/ D&D, STs, scoring, 4-minute drill, under 2-minute drill, onside kick, etc. If the defense forces offense to punt they score 3 points. Turnover is worth 7 points. D/ST TD = 7 points. Offense scores as usual. Whenever there is a punt or TO, the offense just takes the ball from that spot. We emphasized no cheap shots on teammates, but other than that we played live. Did we get a few boo boos the day before a game? Yes, but never lost a second of playing time b/c of it. I feel it got us more prepared for the next day than just walk through. Kids absolutely loved it.
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Post by s73 on Feb 10, 2016 12:34:33 GMT -6
Over many years have gotten rid of: Doubles Taking kids to the ground Rules that I won't consistently enforce Marathon practices that I only ran b/c you are "supposed to" A fatally obese playbook Drills I found to be impractical Conditioning Saturday practices (coaches still come in) Oklahoma drill on first day of pads (too many injuries) Searching for the magic bullet
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Post by funkfriss on Feb 10, 2016 12:44:55 GMT -6
We have scrapped: 1) JV guys on SPT- we put the best we have out there 2) Actual Playbook Distribution (everything is online) 3) Extra Conditioning inseason 4) Punishment running 5) PAT - we go for 2 at an 80% clip 6) 3 down football - we play with 4 downs most areas of the field 7) Being under center 8) Organized Team Stretching coachbdud or anybody else please chime in as well How do you feel like you get good enough to go for 2 all the time? I've wanted to dabble in this more, but honestly I'm kind of a wuss. We're fortunate to have good kickers year-in, year-out so I like my "guaranteed" point (86-90 96% the last 4 years). Would you do it even if you had an all-area type kicker? I understand the "only have to convert 50% 2PT to equal 100% XP," but that's a little bit flawed IMO. You could go 4/4 vs. Team A and the 0/4 vs. Team B and really be in a hole in that second game. Am I wrong? Not criticizing, just thinking out loud.
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 10, 2016 13:02:05 GMT -6
We have scrapped: 1) JV guys on SPT- we put the best we have out there 2) Actual Playbook Distribution (everything is online) 3) Extra Conditioning inseason 4) Punishment running 5) PAT - we go for 2 at an 80% clip 6) 3 down football - we play with 4 downs most areas of the field 7) Being under center 8) Organized Team Stretching coachbdud or anybody else please chime in as well How do you feel like you get good enough to go for 2 all the time? I've wanted to dabble in this more, but honestly I'm kind of a wuss. We're fortunate to have good kickers year-in, year-out so I like my "guaranteed" point (86-90 96% the last 4 years). Would you do it even if you had an all-area type kicker? I understand the "only have to convert 50% 2PT to equal 100% XP," but that's a little bit flawed IMO. You could go 4/4 vs. Team A and the 0/4 vs. Team B and really be in a hole in that second game. Am I wrong? Not criticizing, just thinking out loud. it started off 2 years ago... we didnt really have a kicker and i kinda knew we had a RB who was amazing i'd go for every 4th and 3 from the GL... why not on 2 pointers we run a double tight, double FB, direct snap to our RB package HC told me if we can get more than half hed let me keep doing it we were 83% in 2014 this year we actually sucked at it our first 2 games but i knew i could fix it (and by sucked i mean only 60% roughly)... i made some personnel changes and we got better on the 2015 season we were 89% on 2 point conversions partly yes because our RB is amazing, but we blocked it pretty well once i made the some changes... most of the time he almost walks in, very little effort needed we were 90% success rate when he was tired and we put one of our WRs (second best skill kid) there in the QB spot ironically we lost in the semifinals by 1 point, we missed a 2 pointer with a minute left to take the lead... i could go for 2 again if i could, i never questioned it. The defense made one good play. We were only in the game still because of the points we stole by going for 2 earlier (we were 6/6 on 2 pointers that game prior to being stopped, and the one we got stopped on was literally by an inch) 6/7 on 2 pointers against an undefeated team is not bad you need to have confidence in it and the support of your HC my HC is very supportive also our kids have a ton of pride in our 2 point package. Kids want to be on it, being on it means you are 1 of our 10 most physical players
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Post by silkyice on Feb 10, 2016 13:13:53 GMT -6
I have probably forgotten some of the things we used to do 25 years ago but i'll give it a shot. Whistles Explain more on no whistles.
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Post by viking on Feb 10, 2016 13:14:32 GMT -6
We have scrapped: 1) JV guys on SPT- we put the best we have out there 2) Actual Playbook Distribution (everything is online) 3) Extra Conditioning inseason 4) Punishment running 5) PAT - we go for 2 at an 80% clip 6) 3 down football - we play with 4 downs most areas of the field 7) Being under center 8) Organized Team Stretching coachbdud or anybody else please chime in as well How do you feel like you get good enough to go for 2 all the time? I've wanted to dabble in this more, but honestly I'm kind of a wuss. We're fortunate to have good kickers year-in, year-out so I like my "guaranteed" point (86-90 96% the last 4 years). Would you do it even if you had an all-area type kicker? I understand the "only have to convert 50% 2PT to equal 100% XP," but that's a little bit flawed IMO. You could go 4/4 vs. Team A and the 0/4 vs. Team B and really be in a hole in that second game. Am I wrong? Not criticizing, just thinking out loud. So you guys are not kicking field goals ever, either? We had a pretty good in practice, but not very dependable kicker this year. I had trouble trusting him in games so we went for most manageable 4th downs, but 4th and goal from the 10 I feel like I want a PAT/FG team so I guess it is not for me.
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 10, 2016 13:18:50 GMT -6
no we havent kicked a FG in a couple years
we go for it
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Post by husky44 on Feb 10, 2016 13:23:02 GMT -6
So do you ever work on kicking? What about when you need a FG to win?
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 10, 2016 13:27:10 GMT -6
So do you ever work on kicking? What about when you need a FG to win? we havent been in that exact situation in 4 years this past season our best bet percentage wise wouldve been to throw up a jumpball in the end zone we do work the kicking game a little, just to have it but just a few minutes a week we have a QB coming up from JV who is a really good kicker with him the next 3 years we will have the option to kick FGs if we absolutely need it but i will still go for 2... i think i am stealing points that way
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Post by coachirish on Feb 10, 2016 13:47:58 GMT -6
So do you ever work on kicking? What about when you need a FG to win? we havent been in that exact situation in 4 years this past season our best bet percentage wise wouldve been to throw up a jumpball in the end zone we do work the kicking game a little, just to have it but just a few minutes a week we have a QB coming up from JV who is a really good kicker with him the next 3 years we will have the option to kick FGs if we absolutely need it but i will still go for 2... i think i am stealing points that way Do you have a series of plays from your 2 pt formation? Id like to learn what you do.
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Post by funkfriss on Feb 10, 2016 13:50:10 GMT -6
So do you ever work on kicking? What about when you need a FG to win? we havent been in that exact situation in 4 years this past season our best bet percentage wise wouldve been to throw up a jumpball in the end zone we do work the kicking game a little, just to have it but just a few minutes a week we have a QB coming up from JV who is a really good kicker with him the next 3 years we will have the option to kick FGs if we absolutely need it but i will still go for 2... i think i am stealing points that way At 85% success it's hard to argue with that last statement. Mind sharing your 2 pt package? OR is it simply as you described and you're diving into the scrum every time?
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Feb 10, 2016 15:03:51 GMT -6
funkfriss@coachirish Check out our RB's #25 hudl highlights. See my signature line. You'll see much of what we do in GL/2pt. 2TE 2FB direct snap We don't run anything special- nothing outside of what we'd normally run...which is exactly the plan. funkfrissThe "point of knowing you're good enough to go for 2" was a preseason discussion and tied to our philosophy. We set a goal of 60%. If we hit that there was no need to change. Our Rb was 4th nationally in scoring (324pts) according to maxpreps. 102 of those points were on 2pt'ers
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Feb 10, 2016 15:20:27 GMT -6
funkfriss coachirishCheck out our RB's #25 hudl highlights. See my signature line. You'll see much of what we do in GL/2pt. 2TE 2FB direct snap We don't run anything special- nothing outside of what we'd normally run...which is exactly the plan. funkfriss The "point of knowing you're good enough to go for 2" was a preseason discussion and tied to our philosophy. We set a goal of 60%. If we hit that there was no need to change. Our Rb was 4th nationally in scoring (324pts) according to maxpreps. 102 of those points were on 2pt'ers coachirish see above post
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 10, 2016 16:20:07 GMT -6
we havent been in that exact situation in 4 years this past season our best bet percentage wise wouldve been to throw up a jumpball in the end zone we do work the kicking game a little, just to have it but just a few minutes a week we have a QB coming up from JV who is a really good kicker with him the next 3 years we will have the option to kick FGs if we absolutely need it but i will still go for 2... i think i am stealing points that way At 85% success it's hard to argue with that last statement. Mind sharing your 2 pt package? OR is it simply as you described and you're diving into the scrum every time? funkfriss coachirishoh i forgot to add that we also have a wing aligned on our right side to block the edge down when we run our bucksweep 2 TEs 2 FBs in sniffer spots (one of them calls the cadence for us actually) my best available athlete taking the snap and my buffest RB plays the wing we run our base offensive schemes for the OL from a heavier personnel power counter wing counter bucksweep/pin n pull straight ahead wedge/dive i add a couple fun things during the year we have a little jump pass we are 2/3 on... one we didnt get was dropped a sweep pass 2/2 this year a reverse... ran a reverse pass for fun more than anything else, just to see if we could do it in a game we had a good lead in, and it failed miserably haha i add some fun stuff for the kids to have fun but usually i am pounding power, counter, and bucksweep
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Post by vanden48 on Feb 10, 2016 16:23:13 GMT -6
Wow, this is an awesome post. I am getting some great ideas from it.
We are going to cut out punt returns this year. We never get a punt that is good enough to return for one. We don't have anyone that I have complete confidence in that won't muff the punt. And I like our chances of blocking the punt much better in terms of improving our field position.
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Post by lions23 on Feb 10, 2016 18:19:07 GMT -6
What I won't get rid of is fielding punts and letting them bounce another 20 yards. We start punting day 1 in summer even though we go for it about 50 percent of the time. Why? So our returners get sharp catching. I don't care about a return but I'm putting my best athlete back there to handle the ball.
A lot of time teams try to kick away from him and they shank it short. And i don't want the ball bouncing for extra yards. Usually the guy I put back there is very talented and other teams get their kids so worked up that they make them so nervous they can't play.
Our return is stupid simple and premised. If all teams play about 63 percent of the time from the hash then mostly they kick from hash. If a good ST coach teaches his kids to spread out to cover then where will the most kids be? They will cover the middle and field. Therefore we always return short where they will have likely 1 kid on the number and one on the hash.
We just try to get one lead blocker to the short sideline with the returner as fast as possible. No one is there. Then our wide side rushers just wrap to the numbers to clean up any coverage adjustments. It's so simple. We have scored at least once every year.
That's the plus but mostly I want the ball as close to the end zone as possible.
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Post by WingTheT on Feb 10, 2016 20:03:50 GMT -6
We did the same and added a "10 minute game" period on Thursdays. Good vs good, start with a kickoff and played a 10 minutes game complete w/ D&D, STs, scoring, 4-minute drill, under 2-minute drill, onside kick, etc. If the defense forces offense to punt they score 3 points. Turnover is worth 7 points. D/ST TD = 7 points. Offense scores as usual. Whenever there is a punt or TO, the offense just takes the ball from that spot. We emphasized no cheap shots on teammates, but other than that we played live. Did we get a few boo boos the day before a game? Yes, but never lost a second of playing time b/c of it. I feel it got us more prepared for the next day than just walk through. Kids absolutely loved it. Definitely going to add that aspect to our 1 v 1 as well. Competition is good for the soul and I think the point thing will make it even more fun. Thanks coach!
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Post by fballcoachg on Feb 10, 2016 21:20:14 GMT -6
A lot has been said but I'll add: Going live (meaning tackling) past the first day or two of allowed Coaches meetings past week 1 or 2 (texting and phone calls iron most out, week 1 or two if we are still figuring out personnel) Going past allotted time for practice Thinking we need to rep a play 10,000 times to run it...we add a play/tweak a week and if it looks good we run it Quiet halftimes...we have the radio turned up just like they do pregame, coaches make adjustments to their groups instead of as a whole Caring about "type players," if a kid can ball he can ball...part by necessity part by putting the best we have out there Traditional scouting reports Quiet Thursday practices...we found we focus best and tempo best on our run throughs by getting in the stadium and cranking it up, we also do a game simulation Thursday including sending them off for a truncated halftime
The biggest thing I've learned is don't do things just because that's what's expected or how it's always been done, do what fits you and your team and gets results
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Post by coachtua on Feb 10, 2016 23:48:09 GMT -6
Post practice meetings, during the season, is the biggest thing we cut. During camp we meet for 15 minutes after each practice just to debrief and talk about/adjust the next practice install. After the install is complete, no more meetings unless HC has something important, ie. odd start times, pregame/warm-up changes etc.
Printed scouting reports. HUDL has helped us eliminate a printed scouting report, using the practice script and install tools.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Feb 11, 2016 7:09:37 GMT -6
Sundays at school- only from home, guys come to my place and we use my film room (I have no kids) No more practice pants Sat practice only in camp We still do USA tackling but Pete is our guru now No more "it's just how it is here" we now push forward and want it to be A++ professional 10/10 No more recruiting the halls- you either want it or you don't
We do a form of Oklahoma that's a zone combo drill- RB and 2 OL vs DL & LB, back should clear untouched.
Had cut out conditioning, long play calls, enforced a 90 min MAX practice length, many other things already
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Post by coachmonkey on Feb 11, 2016 7:53:44 GMT -6
Our team scrapped conditioning, traditional pursuit drills, blocking circuits and tackling circuits. We are in full pads 4 days a week.
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Post by coachmonkey on Feb 11, 2016 8:02:08 GMT -6
Polyester coaching short shorts I've been looking to find a pair of these. I think these should totally make a comeback.
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Post by hsrose on Feb 11, 2016 9:18:53 GMT -6
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Feb 11, 2016 10:17:16 GMT -6
Wow, this is an awesome post. I am getting some great ideas from it. We are going to cut out punt returns this year. We never get a punt that is good enough to return for one. We don't have anyone that I have complete confidence in that won't muff the punt. And I like our chances of blocking the punt much better in terms of improving our field position. Why not package them? We do a block/wall side and a shield side. Our block guys will rush to get the block, but then peel off to a late forming wall opposite of their alignment. Shield guys basically jam the coverage team We never go full rush and we'll play games with the rush side to isolate bad personnel
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Feb 11, 2016 10:18:59 GMT -6
Polyester coaching short shorts That sauna suit top though... I.Need.Dis
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Post by center on Feb 11, 2016 10:24:02 GMT -6
Our team scrapped conditioning, traditional pursuit drills, blocking circuits and tackling circuits. We are in full pads 4 days a week. What do you do with blocking and tackling instead of circuits? Just teach it during individual? Are you hitting all 4 days?
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Post by coachmonkey on Feb 11, 2016 10:31:17 GMT -6
Our team scrapped conditioning, traditional pursuit drills, blocking circuits and tackling circuits. We are in full pads 4 days a week. What do you do with blocking and tackling instead of circuits? Just teach it during individual? Are you hitting all 4 days? We rep it as needed in Indy. If you feel your group needs to work on it, do it. If not, use the time doing something else. Do you have your entire Return teams working on catching punts and kicks? I would doubt it. To me, its the same concept. Yes, we hit all 4 days. The message we are sending - we believe - you will not get hurt by playing football in full pads and going hard. We have ended up with 2 concussions in the past 5 years from kids hitting on KO/KOR on a Thursday practice who were starters, which sucks, but, the toughness our kids play with, I think our opponents would argue outweighs the negatives of being full pads and hitting all 4 days. It's not live hitting though, we typically run 2 whistles.
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Post by cwaltsmith on Feb 11, 2016 11:08:16 GMT -6
Tennessee can only hit or have no bagged contact 2 days a week. Are any other states under this?
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Post by blb on Feb 11, 2016 11:11:52 GMT -6
Tennessee can only hit or have no bagged contact 2 days a week. Are any other states under this?
In Michigan, once the competitive season begins, we can only have two "collision" (player-to-player contact) practices a week.
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Post by hsrose on Feb 11, 2016 14:06:50 GMT -6
In Cali we get 2 days of hitting per week, no more than 90 minutes per day. That starts with the 1st day of practice in August.
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