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Post by wolfden12 on Oct 13, 2015 19:25:29 GMT -6
Coaches,
I was curious how much time you spend and what you discuss during the week meeting to discuss all 3 phases of the game during an in-season week. We practice the following:
Monday: O
Tuesday: D
Wednesday: Split
Thursday: Walk-thru
Special teams is everyday.
We meet nightly for anywhere from 1-2 hours.
Wolfden
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Post by fantom on Oct 13, 2015 19:45:50 GMT -6
Coaches, I was curious how much time you spend and what you discuss during the week meeting to discuss all 3 phases of the game during an in-season week. We practice the following: Monday: O Tuesday: D Wednesday: Split Thursday: Walk-thru Special teams is everyday. We meet nightly for anywhere from 1-2 hours. Wolfden I've never been to a formal post-practice meeting in my life. |
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Post by collier on Oct 13, 2015 20:18:21 GMT -6
Coaches, I was curious how much time you spend and what you discuss during the week meeting to discuss all 3 phases of the game during an in-season week. We practice the following: Monday: O Tuesday: D Wednesday: Split Thursday: Walk-thru Special teams is everyday. We meet nightly for anywhere from 1-2 hours. Wolfden What do you meet about for 1-2 hours? |
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Post by 33coach on Oct 13, 2015 20:18:25 GMT -6
Coaches, I was curious how much time you spend and what you discuss during the week meeting to discuss all 3 phases of the game during an in-season week. We practice the following: Monday: O Tuesday: D Wednesday: Split Thursday: Walk-thru Special teams is everyday. We meet nightly for anywhere from 1-2 hours. Wolfden I've never been to a formal post-practice meeting in my life. Me neither, unless you count the bar. |
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Post by coachbdud on Oct 13, 2015 23:25:57 GMT -6
That's crazy
We meet 1-2 hours Sunday night
We all watch a ton of film on our own before the Sunday meeting
Meet to share ideas
Compare notes
Rest of our communication can be done via text during the day
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Post by wingtol on Oct 14, 2015 6:05:34 GMT -6
Half the time I walk off the field get in my truck and go home with a "See ya tomorrow" to the other coaches. Like to get home and see my kids for 10 minutes before they go to bed ya know. I just don't see what there is to meet about for 1-2 hours after practice.
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Post by wolfden12 on Oct 14, 2015 6:46:10 GMT -6
I know but it is what our HC wants. Discuss the day's offensive practice what we liked and didn't like. Look at adjustments and changes to things we did well and not so well. Adjust or create practice plan for Wednesday and adjust wrist coaches and call sheets. Additional film if needed to secure alignment vs. sets
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Post by shocktroop34 on Oct 14, 2015 6:46:14 GMT -6
I'm seriously interested to hear what goes on in these meetings for 1-2 hours AFTER practice. I've never heard that before on the H.S. level.
I've been known to call a meeting on a Monday or Wednesday to discuss particular matters: adjustment plays, personnel, line up changes, injuries, grade/school issues, and your average "just so we're all on the same page..." type of stuff.
Those meetings usually take 15-20 minutes and a tiny bit of that time is guys just unwinding and getting in a few chuckles.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Oct 14, 2015 6:54:05 GMT -6
I know but it is what our HC wants. Discuss the day's offensive practice what we liked and didn't like. Look at adjustments and changes to things we did well and not so well. Adjust or create practice plan for Wednesday and adjust wrist coaches and call sheets. Additional film if needed to secure alignment vs. sets Are you winning? If so, I can't knock it. If that's what the HC wants, that what he wants. Are you a coordinator? I could understand meeting with the coordinators for a while, but not for an hour +. As a HC I always tried to respect that my staff had families and other things to do after practice that were equally as vital to them as coaching (if not more). Unless I was coaching in college, I'd never consider taking up that much time after a practice. |
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Post by wolfden12 on Oct 14, 2015 6:54:08 GMT -6
I wish that was the case. Just been an interesting year.
Work thru the night's on Friday's and straight to Saturday at 3.
Sunday is a 9am to 10pm. day. I do all these things in terms of prep and organization and feel at times it is not worth it or a waste of time. I do it because the HC asks, but may need to have a talk with him post-season.
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Post by coachfloyd on Oct 14, 2015 6:59:26 GMT -6
Around here those types of meetings are common place. We watch practice from that day, discuss practice for the next day, personnel, whats working, whats not, etc. Maybe its because our staff is new together and young. There are always things to do. I have a big belief that you don't leave until the kids do. I couldn't imagine getting in my car as soon as practice was over and leave someone else to supervise, wash clothes, clean up the field, etc. We get off the field around 630-700 and i usually leave between 8-830. I always watch practice before I leave with our QB coach. Not sure how many others even watch it every day. My head coach got fired last year which necessitated a move for me so Im a little more anal about making sure everything is right. I don't have a job outside of this.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Oct 14, 2015 6:59:13 GMT -6
I wish that was the case. Just been an interesting year. Work thru the night's on Friday's and straight to Saturday at 3. Sunday is a 9am to 10pm. day. I do all these things in terms of prep and organization and feel at times it is not worth it or a waste of time. I do it because the HC asks, but may need to have a talk with him post-season. Wow, man. Much respect on your work ethic, but damn! There is this place in coaching, you may have heard of it...it's called burnout. It's located directly in front of you. |
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Post by shocktroop34 on Oct 14, 2015 7:05:13 GMT -6
I wish that was the case. Just been an interesting year. Work thru the night's on Friday's and straight to Saturday at 3. Sunday is a 9am to 10pm. day. I do all these things in terms of prep and organization and feel at times it is not worth it or a waste of time. I do it because the HC asks, but may need to have a talk with him post-season. Wow, man. Much respect on your work ethic, but damn! There is this place in coaching, you may have heard of it...it's called burnout. It's located directly in front of you. -Wolf, just curious...what is the nature or pacing of the meetings? Is is laid back, slow tempo, guys on their phones, people leaving for the restroom, eating food? Or is it on task, boom, boom, boom, hitting each topic and moving quickly to the next task with a sense of urgency? Again, just curious... |
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Post by raymul313 on Oct 14, 2015 7:29:59 GMT -6
Coaches, I was curious how much time you spend and what you discuss during the week meeting to discuss all 3 phases of the game during an in-season week. We practice the following: Monday: O Tuesday: D Wednesday: Split Thursday: Walk-thru Special teams is everyday. We meet nightly for anywhere from 1-2 hours. Wolfden I've never been to a formal post-practice meeting in my life. I've only had a post-practice meeting if it involved the AD and even then it's never long |
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Post by raymul313 on Oct 14, 2015 7:40:24 GMT -6
Around here those types of meetings are common place. We watch practice from that day, discuss practice for the next day, personnel, whats working, whats not, etc. Maybe its because our staff is new together and young. There are always things to do. I have a big belief that you don't leave until the kids do. I couldn't imagine getting in my car as soon as practice was over and leave someone else to supervise, wash clothes, clean up the field, etc. We get off the field around 630-700 and i usually leave between 8-830. I always watch practice before I leave with our QB coach. Not sure how many others even watch it every day. My head coach got fired last year which necessitated a move for me so Im a little more anal about making sure everything is right. I don't have a job outside of this. Can't each individual position coach look at what needs to be fixed on their on time (assuming you have hudl or each's own camera)? Can the players clean up the field and wash their own practice unis? |
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Post by coachfloyd on Oct 14, 2015 7:52:06 GMT -6
Around here those types of meetings are common place. We watch practice from that day, discuss practice for the next day, personnel, whats working, whats not, etc. Maybe its because our staff is new together and young. There are always things to do. I have a big belief that you don't leave until the kids do. I couldn't imagine getting in my car as soon as practice was over and leave someone else to supervise, wash clothes, clean up the field, etc. We get off the field around 630-700 and i usually leave between 8-830. I always watch practice before I leave with our QB coach. Not sure how many others even watch it every day. My head coach got fired last year which necessitated a move for me so Im a little more anal about making sure everything is right. I don't have a job outside of this. Can't each individual position coach look at what needs to be fixed on their on time (assuming you have hudl or each's own camera)? Can the players clean up the field and wash their own practice unis? I dont know where you coach but players washing their own stuff hasn't worked anywhere Ive been. Maybe in affluent areas. Most of ours would have to go to a laundry mat to get it done. Yes coaches could watch practice on their own. But we have a young staff. It wouldn't be much different than them just watching a game on TV. |
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Post by PSS on Oct 14, 2015 8:13:46 GMT -6
When practice is over we don't go back to the office until all the kids are gone. Once they are gone the defensive staff discusses practice, what needs to be corrected and worked on the next day. Offense does the same. Next days practice plan is usually done before we leave. HC wants to make sure we are all on the same page. Usually doesn't last for more than 30-45 minutes. We make sure wash is started and changed over before we leave.
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Post by rystaylo on Oct 14, 2015 8:19:09 GMT -6
I would stop coaching if i had practice every day for 5 hours(including post practice)
Or at least a significant raise. I make about 1,000. It would take me 10,000 to work those hours during the week.
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Post by collier on Oct 14, 2015 8:20:34 GMT -6
Our HC does the laundry every day. We assign a different group of kids to clean the field every day. The staff will stick around and chat for 15-20 mins (or more or less) about whatever we need to. Staff rotates on who has to stay and lock up--we have several coaches with kids in little league games as we are dismissing practices, so I'm usually the one who locks up. I'm eating dinner with my wife by 7:30.
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Post by spos21ram on Oct 14, 2015 8:38:04 GMT -6
It's not required of us, but whatever coaches are left after practice will casually talk about things for about 10 minutes, but no meeting. Meeting for 1-2 hours every night during the week is a little overkill for high school. When I was coaching at a D3 school we would meet after practice sometimes in positional groups with the kids for 20 minutes, sometimes with the whole staff for about a half hour, but that was it during the week. Sunday mornings we would meet for a couple hours.
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Post by wolfden12 on Oct 14, 2015 8:39:34 GMT -6
Wow, man. Much respect on your work ethic, but damn! There is this place in coaching, you may have heard of it...it's called burnout. It's located directly in front of you. -Wolf, just curious...what is the nature or pacing of the meetings? Is is laid back, slow tempo, guys on their phones, people leaving for the restroom, eating food? Or is it on task, boom, boom, boom, hitting each topic and moving quickly to the next task with a sense of urgency? Again, just curious... We are pretty on task during the week. The HC has 2 young boys and wants to be out to put them to bed. Usually if he needs to take off I will finalize the meeting with the QB and then head to school to finalize printed docs, scripts, wrist coaches etc. We turn our phones off, no food, etc. |
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Post by wolfden12 on Oct 14, 2015 8:41:11 GMT -6
I know but it is what our HC wants. Discuss the day's offensive practice what we liked and didn't like. Look at adjustments and changes to things we did well and not so well. Adjust or create practice plan for Wednesday and adjust wrist coaches and call sheets. Additional film if needed to secure alignment vs. sets Are you winning? If so, I can't knock it. If that's what the HC wants, that what he wants. Are you a coordinator? I could understand meeting with the coordinators for a while, but not for an hour +. As a HC I always tried to respect that my staff had families and other things to do after practice that were equally as vital to them as coaching (if not more). Unless I was coaching in college, I'd never consider taking up that much time after a practice. We are winning and trying to get things turned around. I am a coordinator (sp. teams) however, handle all the prep, breakdown, scouting reports, etc. Trying to make HC job easier. |
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Post by wolfden12 on Oct 14, 2015 8:43:20 GMT -6
I wish that was the case. Just been an interesting year. Work thru the night's on Friday's and straight to Saturday at 3. Sunday is a 9am to 10pm. day. I do all these things in terms of prep and organization and feel at times it is not worth it or a waste of time. I do it because the HC asks, but may need to have a talk with him post-season. Wow, man. Much respect on your work ethic, but damn! There is this place in coaching, you may have heard of it...it's called burnout. It's located directly in front of you. Shock, I am well aware and have been noticing/fearing it happening. However, I know it will happen but cant stop. In the blood. I have to go and have to work. If the meetings didn't happen there are other things I could be doing i.e. breaking film down for the next opponent, study table, teaching stuff, watching practice etc. |
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Post by raymul313 on Oct 14, 2015 8:44:07 GMT -6
Can't each individual position coach look at what needs to be fixed on their on time (assuming you have hudl or each's own camera)? Can the players clean up the field and wash their own practice unis? I dont know where you coach but players washing their own stuff hasn't worked anywhere Ive been. Maybe in affluent areas. Most of ours would have to go to a laundry mat to get it done. Yes coaches could watch practice on their own. But we have a young staff. It wouldn't be much different than them just watching a game on TV. Where I coach is pretty poverty stricken, rural, I know of a few kids who every few days will hand wash their unis in the shower with them. I get the 'young staff' issue where they aren't very good at watching film (btw I'm 25 and in my 1st year coaching so I know I'm no expert either) |
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Post by coachphillip on Oct 14, 2015 8:45:18 GMT -6
We either gather up on the field after practice or in the office after practice and talk about what went well and what needs to be better. It takes about 5-10 minutes at most. It's not too business like. It's more of a "Man, we need to work on some open field tackle and shed drills tomorrow big time! We did good with the kick out blocks though. Let's pair up the OLB and ILB for open field stuff and have the DL work pass rush contain tomorrow." I text and call my guys throughout the day leading up to practice so that they know what's going on all the time. If we filmed practice, I could understand meeting up to watch it and figure it out. But, I don't know how I'd feel about asking guys to do that every day for an entire season and then having the district pay them $500 for the season and that's IF they get paid at all.
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Post by dubber on Oct 14, 2015 8:53:42 GMT -6
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Post by fbs on Oct 14, 2015 9:06:27 GMT -6
sounds to me like you're meeting just to meet. there's nothing to talk about for that long unless there's a major problem that needs addressing and even then it shouldn't take that long.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Oct 14, 2015 9:12:42 GMT -6
Our after-practice "meetings" are really just coaches gather informally in the office and BS or work things out. If something needs to be talked about, we do that, but mostly it's just staging for our end of the day building lock-up.
We typically meet with kids after practice- 20min film session as needed. Today I have DB's after practice to go over our opponent's entire pass game.
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Post by wolfden12 on Oct 14, 2015 9:18:30 GMT -6
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Post by funkfriss on Oct 14, 2015 9:30:06 GMT -6
Can't each individual position coach look at what needs to be fixed on their on time (assuming you have hudl or each's own camera)? Can the players clean up the field and wash their own practice unis? I dont know where you coach but players washing their own stuff hasn't worked anywhere Ive been. Maybe in affluent areas. Most of ours would have to go to a laundry mat to get it done. Yes coaches could watch practice on their own. But we have a young staff. It wouldn't be much different than them just watching a game on TV. I'm sure a lot of places have kids whose families have to go to the laundromat to wash clothes. We do. I still would never dream of washing their practice clothes. Why wouldn't they take them home every week and wash them with the rest of their clothes over the weekend? If their parents don't do it, then the kids need to. Sorry, but to me that's part of your job, teaching the accountability of washing your clothes. Seems like too much @$$ wiping to me. |
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