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Post by silkyice on Oct 1, 2015 13:16:48 GMT -6
Yes the difference is just formations and personnel. We have more success using twins and a wide out than double tight with a wing. We run the ball and pound it. We don't want to throw it unless we have to. It's like our line goes dumb when they see 9 in the box instead of 7. I am the WR/DB coach and I try to help them out as much as I can. Of course the WR's want a formation with 3 WR's in it instead of none. DUH!!
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Post by 33coach on Oct 1, 2015 13:41:59 GMT -6
Do you think I like our offense all the time? No.
Would the kids ever know it, sense it, or even think about it? No.
If a kid doesn't like our system. We tell him to go find another team.
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Post by pistola on Oct 1, 2015 15:02:09 GMT -6
Any time any of my players come to me with concerns or questions or doubts about football I always respond with this. "Ok. Now that you have said your piece and I didn't interrupt you and gave you respect are you going to show me the same and let me speak? The offense will work however we run it. Whether it be A or B we will get yards and we will score. Now whether it happens fast or not is not for anyone but the football gods. What is our team motto? 'Hit Hard. Hit Fast. Never Give Up.' Now if we fail at either one of these 3 we fail at all of them. If we don't Hit Hard or Fast it is because we gave up. We absolutely can not give up. Don't give up on your reads. Don't give up on your blocks. Don't give up on your routes. And most importantly don't give up on us coaches. Remember that we can only teach you at the most 20% of this game of football. The other 90% has to come from you because football requires 110%. Always strive for that extra 10%. Give it time and it will all work out." This is the speech I have given maybe 10 times so far this year. If you've given it ten times, you need a new speech. Seriously though. If everything you've said here is true, if I were the HC I'd fire your butt yesterday. The role of the young guy is to keep his mouth shut and learn how to coach kids. The pitfall is that you think you know too much, and that includes taking liberties in your conversations with kids. On top of that, if that's the speech you're giving kids I'm not sure I've ever read anything so bland, uniform and hokey. it does sound rather dramatic though..
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Post by fshamrock on Oct 2, 2015 7:03:05 GMT -6
motivational speech rule #17 - No math
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Post by utchuckd on Oct 2, 2015 7:04:22 GMT -6
...a hierarchy of a-holes. I'm still laughing at this. Sounds like a Christopher Moore novel.
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Post by olcoach53 on Oct 2, 2015 8:10:15 GMT -6
Read through this entire thread and this guy just does not get it. He is not part of the solution he is clearly part of the problem. If these "players" have issues with the "OC" and the offensive play calling then tough crap. They can either play or they can not play, simple as that.
And from the sound of things YOU think that YOU should be calling the offense. I can tell you, and I know multiple other coaches on this forum can tell you as well, it is not as easy as you may think! Just because you played football or have an exceptional Madden or NCAA record on the Xbox does not mean you are a ready play caller. Just my two cents.
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Post by fbs on Oct 2, 2015 8:22:58 GMT -6
Read through this entire thread and this guy just does not get it. He is not part of the solution he is clearly part of the problem. If these "players" have issues with the "OC" and the offensive play calling then tough crap. They can either play or they can not play, simple as that. And from the sound of things YOU think that YOU should be calling the offense. I can tell you, and I know multiple other coaches on this forum can tell you as well, it is not as easy as you may think! Just because you played football or have an exceptional Madden or NCAA record on the Xbox does not mean you are a ready play caller. Just my two cents. +1. You will never know how difficult it is to formulate a gameplan and then stick to that plan as a playcaller, as well as abandoning or adjusting said plan if needed on the fly. You have very little time to process a ton of information. Young dudes do NOT typically get this unless they were raised by a coach.
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Post by coachphillip on Oct 2, 2015 8:23:26 GMT -6
Had a kid come up to me yesterday and start complaining about the way he was being coached by another coach. "If you've got a problem with him, then you've got a problem with me. We are all in this thing together." Kid shut the heck up and got back in the locker room. There's a time and a place for these kinds of conversation and they rarely involve the input of children.
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Post by joris85 on Oct 2, 2015 8:37:06 GMT -6
Had a kid come up to me yesterday and start complaining about the way he was being coached by another coach. "If you've got a problem with him, then you've got a problem with me. We are all in this thing together." Kid shut the heck up and got back in the locker room. There's a time and a place for these kinds of conversation and they rarely involve the input of children. Consider it stolen.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Oct 2, 2015 9:31:25 GMT -6
Here's the thing, and this took me time to "get" is that if you're a career coach, this isn't the last time you and the OC work together. If you support him and back him now, he may hire you 10 years down the road when you're older and wiser.
Our zone plays work better for us than our wing-t plays on average, but it's like above guys have said- they're my curveball. Jobu can't even help you with the curveball.
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Post by 33coach on Oct 2, 2015 9:34:52 GMT -6
Here's the thing, and this took me time to "get" is that if you're a career coach, this isn't the last time you and the OC work together. If you support him and back him now, he may hire you 10 years down the road when you're older and wiser. or he may be spiteful and keep you from getting a job anywhere near him. you need to act as if any coach above you will determine your next job.
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Post by coachgtiller on Oct 2, 2015 9:50:31 GMT -6
To me this whole thread just shows your ignorance as a coach. Like EVERYONE else has said... Yes scheme B is going to work better than A, they schemed their defense for A all week and practiced against that. The kids have to go out and execute. And it sounds like you're doing anything but encouraging them. Who gives a sh!t if the defense knows what play you're running. Go out and play harder than the guy across from you and do your job. Simple as that! If that's not what you're preaching to the kids then you're a cancer to the team.
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Post by natenator on Oct 2, 2015 9:53:48 GMT -6
Here's the thing, and this took me time to "get" is that if you're a career coach, this isn't the last time you and the OC work together. If you support him and back him now, he may hire you 10 years down the road when you're older and wiser. Our zone plays work better for us than our wing-t plays on average, but it's like above guys have said- they're my curveball. Jobu can't even help you with the curveball. Lol love the Major League reference!
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Post by coachmonkey on Oct 2, 2015 10:23:01 GMT -6
I would just like to know what the schemes are?
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Post by 33coach on Oct 2, 2015 10:26:10 GMT -6
I would just like to know what the schemes are? one is veer with double tights the other is veer with split ends that will let you know how ridiculous this is.
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Post by coachmonkey on Oct 2, 2015 10:28:18 GMT -6
I would just like to know what the schemes are? one is veer with double tights the other is veer with split ends that will let you know how ridiculous this is. I ran fullhouse wishbone in the late 90s as a HS QB. We ran both. Had success with both (13-0). Having run them, I can say if you are that much more successful in one vs. the other, its coaching. It's not scheme, it's not the kids, it's coaching. Your best bet is to learn the pros and cons of both systems inside and out to better yourself, and watch the kids improve and both systems improve.
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Post by coachphillip on Oct 2, 2015 10:41:28 GMT -6
Unless they're bringing the same kids that play WR down to play TE and then wonder why nobody is getting blocked.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 15:43:07 GMT -6
You will learn its all bullspit. Formations do not matter.
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Post by groundchuck on Oct 2, 2015 16:19:03 GMT -6
Support the coaching staff or quit yourself. Kids quit for stupid reasons.
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