Kids don't like him

Do the job as an assistant you were hired to do.

coachbone53,

You are probably not going to get a ton sympathy on this site.

Kids quitting on coaches are the kids' problem......to suggest a coaching change (of staff or philosophy) in order to keep a player happy will NEVER play in this online community.

Just in case you are wondering why a massive chit storm of criticism is coming your way......

Now, I get your concerns. It may seem like it is as easy as change this and this stud will play, etc.

But once you make 1 concession, you'll need to make a 1,000 more before it's all said and done.

You need to support your OC, and coach the guys that are there. That is all you can or need to do.

Already been good responses in this thread, but I will say your youth shows in your post.

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do your job, or quit.

dont lead the mutiny.

Not your job. Coach the kids. Leave the problems alone.

I support the OC 100% but I don't understand why he runs the scheme he runs when we have more success running a different scheme. We run the same plays out of 2 different schemes. Scheme A works great as long as we don't get a house blitz like we are getting now. We barely skated by a team we should have easily beat and now everyone knows the kryptonite of Scheme A. Scheme B spreads the D out and gives us a better chance of getting yards and mismatches. Again, same plays just different formation. Yes I am young but I am not going to lead a mutiny. I'm not trying to change the whole O just to keep a kid from quitting. I'm just trying to get the OC to realize that we are more successful in B than we are in A. We run A 80% of the time and B only 20% and have more success in B than we do A. If it's working why not go with what works. Again, we already have scheme B in the play book and in the offense so why not adapt to the game and go with what works.

I just don't understand how he doesn't see that we are more successful in B than A. Again we run the exact same plays just different formation. Everyone on our staff sees that B works 90% of the time and A works 40% of the time. Our HC has openly stated in meetings that B works better but yet during the game the OC still calls plays from A. We have a higher success rate in B than we do A but he stills goes with A.

Maybe you're more successful in B because the defense prepares for A using your 80:20 ratio. Maybe if you went to B 80:20, then A would be more successful because the defense would be geared up to stop B. Maybe your HC needs to quit being so chicken$hit and tell the OC to change his play calling if it's that big of an issue.

Thanks for the info nate and phillip. You 2 have given me the best advice so far.

Over the course of your career you will run into other coaches that you don't respect or agree with, some of them will be (in your mind) complete idiots...gotta get past it. It's important that the coaching staff presents a united front, and the kids believe that you all have 100 percent confidence in the direction that the program is going. If the kids get an inkling from you that you think the OC sucks too (which seems to be the case since they talked to you about it) then the whole system falls apart. Consider this a learning experience.

You don't.

Do your job as best you can.

Sounds like an unpleasant situation, but they happen a lot.  I've been there, done that.

Let it work itself out and keep yourself out of this mess to avoid alienating the rest of your staff and dividing people up.

Don't say a word, one way or the other, unless pressed, and if you are pressed, give him your support.  He may flat out suck and be a total prick, but your job is to work with him, not fix him or do his job for him.

It's also entirely possible that he's a fine coach, just that you or the players don't understand or believe in what he's doing because it's different from what you are exposed to.  Give him the benefit of the doubt, if possible, and back him just like you'd hope to be backed if you were in his shoes.  There is always more than one way to skin a cat, but sometimes it's hard to fathom that.

If a player quit over the scheme, that sounds like a player being selfish that it wasn't all about him.  There's no good in siding with that kid, no matter how talented he is or how much the other players like him.  Players come and go.

Let me get this straight- You've lost one game and everyone, including you, is ready to throw the guy under a bus?  I think you need to get out now because right now based on your responses to others, you're as big a part of the problem as the kids.

It's not your job.  If the HC doesn't deal with it, that's on him.  Quit palling around with the kids and do your job.

I do my job. I do everything I can for the team and school. I support the OC every step of the way. Do I like or approve of the step most of the time no but that doesn't mean I don't support him. What it boils down to is poor play calling and probably the HC not doing his job. Scheme A used to work until teams found our kryptonite. If OC wants to run A and get stuffed every time I will support him. But do I blab to the kids about it no. I tell them to believe in it and trust it and eventually it will work. Do I believe what I am telling my guys yes. We won't hit a home run every play but every once in a while we will get one. But I also believe in taking advantage of something that will work. Same play different formation.

To the OP, You have said several times in this thread you completely support the OC. I'd have to say your post's totally contradict that. Im curious to what things you do to support him.

I agree with the others....you are worrying about this way too much. It's a HC's issue. When the players complain to you, you need to answer them as if you're the HC. End it immediately.

We all were kids once. Many of us wished we ran a different offense in HS. We'd bitch to our friends, but to quit over it? Just crazy to me. Not the kids you'd want anyway.


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