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Mar 30, 2015 10:07:00 GMT -6
Post by pvogel on Mar 30, 2015 10:07:00 GMT -6
What about this?
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Mar 30, 2015 10:12:25 GMT -6
Post by fantom on Mar 30, 2015 10:12:25 GMT -6
Require PE in school. Fail the kids that don't want to participate. Just like you would fail them in English, Math, Reading, etc. Dont dress out = dont get a grade Dont Participate = Dont get a grade Dont achieve SOME level of improvement = dont get a good grade. And when 30-40% of you student population isn't graduating HS in 4 years and the state comes after the school district because of terrible graduation rates, how do you think that's going to go for your program? I can tell you how it will go in today's CYA administration. Your program will change. I had a frat brother who took PE in college Pass/Fail so that he wouldn't ruin his 4.0 GPA. The first time a kid loses out on being valedictorian because he or she sucks at gymnastics The policy will change very quickly.
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Mar 30, 2015 11:13:47 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 11:13:47 GMT -6
until there is a cultural change, all of these get tough programs have zero chance. I am all in favor of these type of programs, but in a society where the individual is always the victim, those programs have no chance.
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Mar 30, 2015 12:27:16 GMT -6
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 30, 2015 12:27:16 GMT -6
For those in support of this program, and are lementing on the implosion of America yada yada etc-- how many of you are currently in condition enough to model the activities shown?
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Mar 30, 2015 12:54:36 GMT -6
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Post by veerman on Mar 30, 2015 12:54:36 GMT -6
Ran a full marathon couple years ago, weigh same as I did in college lol... But I know what you are saying
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Mar 30, 2015 13:03:01 GMT -6
Post by coachdlo on Mar 30, 2015 13:03:01 GMT -6
coachd8055 excellent point. the PE teachers should demonstrate the skills it takes to be successful in PE just as an math teacher should demonstrate knowledge on all types of equations etc.
We live in a soft world. Its disgusting really. (keep in mind I'm only 22).. But as much "nay-saying" going on from ATHLETIC COACHES I see the type of opposition PE teachers like myself are up against lol! Gonna be a long career!
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Mar 30, 2015 14:01:37 GMT -6
Post by coachd5085 on Mar 30, 2015 14:01:37 GMT -6
coachd8055 excellent point. the PE teachers should demonstrate the skills it takes to be successful in PE just as an math teacher should demonstrate knowledge on all types of equations etc. We live in a soft world. Its disgusting really. (keep in mind I'm only 22).. But as much "nay-saying" going on from ATHLETIC COACHES I see the type of opposition PE teachers like myself are up against lol! Gonna be a long career! coachdlo Well, would you be willing to put your job on the line if this type of program would be "high stakes" like other state tested courses? If a 80% of the kids can't do a human flag... coachdlo is ineffective?--just like the math teacher?
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Mar 30, 2015 15:17:54 GMT -6
Post by larrymoe on Mar 30, 2015 15:17:54 GMT -6
coachd8055 excellent point. the PE teachers should demonstrate the skills it takes to be successful in PE just as an math teacher should demonstrate knowledge on all types of equations etc. We live in a soft world. Its disgusting really. (keep in mind I'm only 22).. But as much "nay-saying" going on from ATHLETIC COACHES I see the type of opposition PE teachers like myself are up against lol! Gonna be a long career! There's being fired up and wanting to make change and there's reality. The reality is this kind of program in today's education system isn't ever going to see the light of day. Just because you think something is the way it should be done, doesn't make it so.
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Mar 30, 2015 19:41:25 GMT -6
Post by coachdlo on Mar 30, 2015 19:41:25 GMT -6
coachd5085 yessir, why not make them perform?? Why have lower standards? why set the bar so low? take a few years to implement then make it a habit.
moe.. someone has to... or we'll all be.... wait for it.... FAT lol
let me ask.. What do you all teach? Lord please don't tell me PE haha
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Mar 30, 2015 19:56:00 GMT -6
Post by coachd5085 on Mar 30, 2015 19:56:00 GMT -6
coachd5085 yessir, why not make them perform?? Why have lower standards? why set the bar so low? take a few years to implement then make it a habit. moe.. someone has to... or we'll all be.... wait for it.... FAT lol let me ask.. What do you all teach? Lord please don't tell me PE haha Oh, but my friend...your fellow teachers don't have "a few years to implement". Nope...so none for us PE teachers either. Regardless of what level the kids come in they need to be proficient at the end of your course. As a PE teacher myself, I don't necessarily agree with the idea that PE is equivalent to PT. They aren't the same. There is definitely a fitness element involved, but I don't believe that PE teachers should just be PT instructors.
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Mar 30, 2015 20:25:55 GMT -6
Post by coachdlo on Mar 30, 2015 20:25:55 GMT -6
awww.. but core classes were implemented are implemented through younger ages..
elementary PE should be the same as it is now obviously, MS should be a little more strenuous, HS should be to get fit.. We obviously don't agree on this haha and thats okay. I just believe our nation in terms of childhood obesity and adult obesity and laziness, etc is DISGUSTING!!!
I don't like the thought of diabetes but hell at this rate all my grandchildren will probably be type 2 diabetes because MURICA!
lol I guess i'll stand up for what I believe in and fight the losing battle. Not ashamed of it.
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Mar 30, 2015 20:27:45 GMT -6
Post by fantom on Mar 30, 2015 20:27:45 GMT -6
awww.. but core classes were implemented are implemented through younger ages.. elementary PE should be the same as it is now obviously, MS should be a little more strenuous, HS should be to get fit.. We obviously don't agree on this haha and thats okay. I just believe our nation in terms of childhood obesity and adult obesity and laziness, etc is DISGUSTING!!! I don't like the thought of diabetes but hell at this rate all my grandchildren will probably be type 2 diabetes because MURICA! lol I guess i'll stand up for what I believe in and fight the losing battle. Not ashamed of it. So what exactly is the plan?
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Mar 30, 2015 20:52:23 GMT -6
Post by coachdlo on Mar 30, 2015 20:52:23 GMT -6
fantom. I don't know the plan. I just think that PE is too "fun" now instead of what it needs to be. Its okay if ya'll disagree with me. Im not trying to upset anyone haha. I just think for the next 30 years of my teaching career I will do MY BEST in MY SITUATION to make PE important to the staff, community, and most importantly the kids. I hope I can be successful.. If not then by golly when I retire nobody can say that I was for the "fat america" we are headed towards.. I'm just trying to do my part that is all..
sorry if I somehow have offended any of you guys...
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Post by shocktroop34 on Mar 30, 2015 21:00:37 GMT -6
Kennedy's image as a "vigorous" president is really funny IMO. I wonder what painkillers he was on to film those spots? The pain killer was called "Marilyn Monroe."
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Mar 30, 2015 21:01:01 GMT -6
Post by fantom on Mar 30, 2015 21:01:01 GMT -6
You're not offending me. I don't care.
You know what I despise on Facebook? Messages with vague political ideas, long on emotion, short on facts. Bth sides do it: "Stop gun violence", "Stop illegal immigration". They never tell you how.
The devil is always in the details. So, how?
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Mar 30, 2015 21:43:03 GMT -6
Post by coachdlo on Mar 30, 2015 21:43:03 GMT -6
well depending on the situation it could vary greatly.. For instance. Small school I coach at now but do not teach there (another football coach is PE teacher) he has elementary - HS. maybe sees 300 kids TOTAL. In this situation where he has complete control of PE program where as administration does not bother to tell him what to do or not to do.
He plays dodgeball, kickball, basketball, etc.... simple
--elementary work on motor skills, spatial awareness etc...
--MS begin implementing true fitness.. perhaps. Mon/Fri are sports/skills days and tue-wed-thur are fitness grade them on mile run, sit-ups, push-ups, pull ups, etc. 1st grade would be participating (like a pre test) Work them hard all semester/year however long you have them. Post-test them in same areas. I PROMISE THERE WILL BE IMPROVEMENT grade them on that. if they get 1 more sit up than they did 18 weeks earlier. than perhaps you HURT THEIR FEELINGS with a D- in that section.. Thats THEIR FAULT FOR NOT GETTING BETTER. if they improve by 27 pushups then give them an A or whatever your criteria is set at..
if you tell everyone (including little tubby timmy) that 1-10 more sit ups is a D and 11-15 more is a C etc. I PROMISE he will improve. Some better than others. But that's life. perhaps timmy is good at pushups or whatever.
You dont DESERVE an A just because you took PE that is so backwards to me..
--HS mon-thur straight fitness. Cardiovascular workouts, push ups, sit ups, wall sits, running stairs, jumping jacks, burpees, you name it!
same as MS pre-test and post-test. GRADE THEM.
friday can be a reward day NOT a free day. if mon-thur is good friday can be a game that you work on. if its DOG$h!t then friday can be a running day.
-- theres my plan. I know you won't like it (that seems to be the common attitude these days) but that's ok. it's just my opinion.
My question for everyone AGAINST this stuff... are ya'll UNAWARE of todays SICKENING youth obesity, diabetes, etc. problems or do you just choose to IGNORE it. That' something to think about..
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Mar 30, 2015 21:46:35 GMT -6
Post by coachdlo on Mar 30, 2015 21:46:35 GMT -6
benefits of a GOOD physical education system. Not just "roll the ball out there" Find a few of those that ya'll don't like???
--Improved physical fitness --Skill and motor skills development --Provides regular, healthful physical activity --Teaches self discipline --Facilitates development of student responsibility for health and fitness --Influence moral development, leadership, cooperate with others --Stress reduction – an outlet for releasing tension and anxiety --Strengthened peer relationships --Physical education can improve self-confidence and self-esteem --Respect - PE helps you respect your body, classmates and teammates --Experience in setting goals --Improved academics - The big bonus benefit!
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Mar 30, 2015 22:59:16 GMT -6
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 30, 2015 22:59:16 GMT -6
benefits of a GOOD physical education system. Not just "roll the ball out there" Find a few of those that ya'll don't like??? --Improved physical fitness --Skill and motor skills development --Provides regular, healthful physical activity --Teaches self discipline --Facilitates development of student responsibility for health and fitness --Influence moral development, leadership, cooperate with others --Stress reduction – an outlet for releasing tension and anxiety --Strengthened peer relationships --Physical education can improve self-confidence and self-esteem --Respect - PE helps you respect your body, classmates and teammates --Experience in setting goals --Improved academics - The big bonus benefit! I am all for GOOD physical education programs. I definitely agree with you there, and I don't think you will find many people advocating for "roll the ball out" programs. I am simply saying that a military PT style physical education program probably is not the best thing one can implement.
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