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Post by carookie on Jun 28, 2014 20:42:18 GMT -6
So I know there have been a number of threads about how much time in general your kids put in a week; but what Im asking is how much time do you actually spend practicing in the summer (ie not wt training, running, 7 on 7).
We are going 11 hours a week in actual practice time during July, we don't start school til late August so this is not our "2-a-days". This is in addition to wts, running, and 7-on-7. I was wondering if anyone else does something like this?
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Post by powerfootball71 on Jun 28, 2014 20:45:50 GMT -6
We will do 20 hrs the second week of July as a team camp. We just are doing this to prep for a contact camp the following week. I don't know all the logestics but basically in wa they have to have so many practices before they can go full contact which they will be at the following camp.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 28, 2014 20:56:21 GMT -6
So I know there have been a number of threads about how much time in general your kids put in a week; but what Im asking is how much time do you actually spend practicing in the summer (ie not wt training, running, 7 on 7). We are going 11 hours a week in actual practice time during July, we don't start school til late August so this is not our "2-a-days". This is in addition to wts, running, and 7-on-7. I was wondering if anyone else does something like this? Coach...if you are practicing 11 hours a week in JULY--- what the heck do you need "2-a days" or "camp" or any of that for.
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Post by carookie on Jun 28, 2014 21:01:21 GMT -6
So I know there have been a number of threads about how much time in general your kids put in a week; but what Im asking is how much time do you actually spend practicing in the summer (ie not wt training, running, 7 on 7). We are going 11 hours a week in actual practice time during July, we don't start school til late August so this is not our "2-a-days". This is in addition to wts, running, and 7-on-7. I was wondering if anyone else does something like this? Coach...if you are practicing 11 hours a week in JULY--- what the heck do you need "2-a days" or "camp" or any of that for. Honestly, I dunno. That was somewhat the basis for the question.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 28, 2014 21:04:44 GMT -6
Coach...if you are practicing 11 hours a week in JULY--- what the heck do you need "2-a days" or "camp" or any of that for. Honestly, I dunno. That was somewhat the basis for the question. I guess it is just regional differences, but I can't wrap my head around teams wearing equipment, practicing, hitting etc prior to the first "official" day of football season.
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Post by carookie on Jun 28, 2014 21:13:03 GMT -6
Honestly, I dunno. That was somewhat the basis for the question. I guess it is just regional differences, but I can't wrap my head around teams wearing equipment, practicing, hitting etc prior to the first "official" day of football season. No equipment- maybe guardian caps- shorts, t shirts, cleats.
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Post by mattharris75 on Jun 28, 2014 21:56:17 GMT -6
3 hours a week. Two hours on Monday night, and an hour on Thursday mornings after they do conditioning.
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Post by coachphillip on Jun 28, 2014 21:57:53 GMT -6
We are at 4 hours a week in July. Maybe I'm not doing enough? I have 2 hours of defense a week in July. 8 hours total of defense.
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Post by biggus3 on Jun 28, 2014 22:16:23 GMT -6
We do 1 hour of very basic stuff in shorts everyday before strength and conditioning. We do one team camp with pads practicing our base stuff against each other. The following week, we go to an over night camp at a local college where we practice our base stuff installed the week before against 12 other teams. By the time two.a days starts, we mostly just focus on installing more complicated coverages and blitzes.
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Post by fantom on Jun 28, 2014 22:17:54 GMT -6
So I know there have been a number of threads about how much time in general your kids put in a week; but what Im asking is how much time do you actually spend practicing in the summer (ie not wt training, running, 7 on 7). We are going 11 hours a week in actual practice time during July, we don't start school til late August so this is not our "2-a-days". This is in addition to wts, running, and 7-on-7. I was wondering if anyone else does something like this? I guess three hours a week. We have a team camp that'll be about 9 hours total but other than that about an hour a day, three days a week.
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Post by realdawg on Jun 29, 2014 6:22:52 GMT -6
Monday-1 hour of offense, then lift and run. Tuesday-1 hour of defense then lift and run. Wed-2 hours offense and defense no lifting. Thurs-1 hour, 30 min offense skills and 30 min defense skills then lift and run. So 5 hours total.
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Post by realdawg on Jun 29, 2014 6:24:01 GMT -6
Monday-1 hour of offense, then lift and run. Tuesday-1 hour of defense then lift and run. Wed-2 hours offense and defense no lifting. Thurs-1 hour, 30 min offense skills and 30 min defense skills then lift and run. So 5 hours total.
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Post by blb on Jun 29, 2014 6:32:08 GMT -6
We can't "practice" outside camp setting in Summer in our state, can't wear full pads until fifth day of official practice.
We can have one coach work with seven players at one time, do seven days of competitions (7-on-7s, Lineman Challenges, etc.), and ten days of camp. Helmets only.
We have a three-day camp last week of July for 10 1/2 hours ("Down" time begins August 1, practice August 11).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 7:36:40 GMT -6
4 hours a week at the most. A lot of times it ends up being less than that. I do consider 7 on 7s part of "practice" though as the ones we enter aren't tournaments and are very informal. We normally do two hours of 7 on 7 a week, although last week and this week have been a little busier than normal in that regard.
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Post by kmiller716 on Jun 29, 2014 8:02:50 GMT -6
The summer has felt like a grind, typically the coaches arrive at field house by 6:45am and dynamic will begin by 7:30 and we will be off field by 9:30 ish. We condition during practice; helmets only, no full pads. We then head to weight room and classrooms (varsity/jv) and out by 11am. Monday thru Thursday.
I am on the border of SC, know several SC coaches, and always ask what their summer's are like. They have spring ball so there is no need for "practice" and install so they just lift and run and sprinkle in 7on7.
We just had a coach jump ship for a SC school and rightfully so. closer to home, increase in pay, but more so, the summers won't be as intense...more vacation time with family. I couldn't agree any more.
but until then, we have to keep up with the Jones'!
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 29, 2014 9:32:30 GMT -6
1 1/2 hours a week in June and half of July. We have 6 days of camp in July scheduled that are scheduled to last 2 hours each, so supposedly 12 hours in July. I doubt we go 2 hours a day.
In all, if we actually go all 2 hours of camp those nights, we'll have 21 1/2 hours for the entire summer actually on the practice field doing activities. We don't ever do classroom stuff (for my money it's a waste- 90% of your kids aren't listening when they're in your classroom for school- the percentage doesn't increase just because it's about football).
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Post by newhope on Jun 29, 2014 9:38:09 GMT -6
11 hours in addition to weights, running and 7 on 7? When are they supposed to be high school kids, not football players? When are the coaches supposed to have a life? When does anyone, players or coaches get a chance to rest, recharge and rejuvenated for the season? It's supposed to be a game, and something they enjoy. We don't do nearly what some of you describe, and I'm worried we are overdoing it for the players. We do 3 days a week, 8-11 am, and that includes wt training, conditioning, and skill development/practice. We go to team camp for 3 days. We will have at least one 7 on 7 a week. We will have 4 other 2 hour full team practice sessions during the summer. We take 2 full weeks off in July. Like I said, I'm concerned even what we are doing is too much. I would much prefer having a spring practice like kmiler716 describes and cut down on some of the summer stuff.
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Post by hsrose on Jun 29, 2014 10:43:04 GMT -6
Honestly, I dunno. That was somewhat the basis for the question. I guess it is just regional differences, but I can't wrap my head around teams wearing equipment, practicing, hitting etc prior to the first "official" day of football season. In the North Coast Section of California they can, and do, go full pads all summer. The situation is that CIF basically shuts down after the last hole of the Men's Golf Tournament. When CIF closes down, so do most of the sections. So it depends on the section, but the NCS you could setup competitive leagues, practice 2-4 hours a day, 7 days a week, in full gear, as long as the school is ok with the use of the gear and facilities. When I coached there we would do weights and then practice for 1-1.5 hours in gear. I'm not sure it did a lot for us, we weren't that good anyway, but other teams took advantage of it and got a lot better. For the NCS I think it was more of a 'legalization' of something that some coaches/schools were doing anyway. Talk about wearing you down. There is no need for 2-days, that is just a continuation of what you'd been doing all summer, so the extra time is just extra practice. But coming up with practice plans and attendance and alternatives and variations because of vacations, and camps, and all that all summer wears on the coaching staff. Everyone needs down time and when you can go all summer, but when you know the schools in your area are going all summer, and schools in the league/section are going all summer, you feel you have to just to keep even. Which is about what we did, keep even. Maybe.
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Post by bluboy on Jun 29, 2014 10:54:17 GMT -6
We have never had team practices over the summer. We workout three days a week. This year we started something new. We break-up our workouts into two sessions. Session #1 (8-9:30 AM)is back and receivers. They spend about 45 minutes on the field doing skills (techniques, pass patterns, coverage skills), then go into the weight room to lift. After the weight room, there is some conditioning. The linemen come in at 8:45 and start at 9, the same concept. On Thursday, both groups come in at 8 and we have a field workout (flipping tires, pushing prowler sleds, etc,). It works well for us. Some teams in our area hold two full, 2-hour practices (helmets/shoulder pads) a week. These teams start off strong, but are burnt out by the end of the season.
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Post by spreadpowero on Jun 29, 2014 11:22:20 GMT -6
5 hours a week
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 14:44:25 GMT -6
11 hours in addition to weights, running and 7 on 7? When are they supposed to be high school kids, not football players? When are the coaches supposed to have a life? When does anyone, players or coaches get a chance to rest, recharge and rejuvenated for the season? It's supposed to be a game, and something they enjoy. We don't do nearly what some of you describe, and I'm worried we are overdoing it for the players. We do 3 days a week, 8-11 am, and that includes wt training, conditioning, and skill development/practice. We go to team camp for 3 days. We will have at least one 7 on 7 a week. We will have 4 other 2 hour full team practice sessions during the summer. We take 2 full weeks off in July. Like I said, I'm concerned even what we are doing is too much. I would much prefer having a spring practice like kmiler716 describes and cut down on some of the summer stuff. I'm the opposite, but I agree with overall premise here. I'm glad we DON'T have spring ball and can do what we do over the summer. That being said, I'm still shocked at some of the summer schedules I see posted on here and that's after the 5 or so threads we've had on the issue!
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Post by freezeoption on Jun 29, 2014 19:04:22 GMT -6
I had a camp in june 5 days 2 hours each, have another one in july, I go Monday through Thursday 6-8 am for weights and conditioning, we don't have spring ball, we get 25 contact days through out the summer, we are allowed the 2 five day camps, so just weight days 8 hours a week,
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Post by coachbdud on Jun 29, 2014 19:20:59 GMT -6
in terms of on the field practice (no lifting, running, 7on7 tourneys)
M: 60 minutes (O) Tu: 60 minutes (D) W: 120 minutes (split, 60 each) Th: 60 minutes (split, 30 each)
so that is a total of 5 hours per week of actual football
it has been a much bigger number in the past, but we felt we burned our kids out on football, and didnt put enough focus (from both players and coaches) on the lifting/running
we've had this schedule all June, and we will have it all July except for the 3 days of our team camp... those days will be all football from 3-8 (mix of 7on7, 1on1s and scrimmage)
We typically practice a little longer in August we start school on Aug 13 this year which just seems insanely early
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Post by freezeoption on Jun 29, 2014 19:32:33 GMT -6
I would like to add that those 2 five day camps count on my 25 contact days, some coaches do several things because it still counts as one day on the contact day, so some may have weights, then camp, then 7 on 7, three activities but counts as one contact day
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Post by coachphillip on Jun 29, 2014 20:12:58 GMT -6
Are you guys, who do those camps, splitting the session into almost like double days? 12-2, 4-6. Or something like that?
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Post by s73 on Jun 29, 2014 20:40:06 GMT -6
We have 12 hours practice in June plus weights. We have 24 total hours in July plus weights and through out the summer we participate in 3 7 on 7's.
I dunno, 36 hours of football over the course of 2 + months doesn't seem like that much to me. We get out of school the last week in May and don't start until 2nd Monday in June. That's almost 2 weeks of nothing. We take off all through the 4ht holiday, that's 9 days with nothing football related, we have our last summer practice 18 days before the season starts and do nothing.
I guess we are 100% or not at all. Just us.
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Post by rebelfootballcoach on Jun 30, 2014 8:42:33 GMT -6
Our philosophy is the summer is all about continuing to develop strength/speed/individual skills. Our week looks like this: Monday - Speed Drills (30 Minutes), Weight Room (1 Hour 15 Minutes), Skills & Drills (1 Hour 15 Minutes) Tuesday - Same as Monday Wednesday - Weight Room (1 Hour), 7 on 7 & Trench Wars Thursday - Speed Drills (30 Minutes), Weight Room (1 Hour 15 Minutes), Skills & Drills (40 Minutes), Team (30 Minutes) We have also cut out Tuesdays following weights as a rewards for working hard.
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Post by s73 on Jun 30, 2014 9:18:00 GMT -6
One of the questions I have for those of you who seem to be kind of "anti-practice" during the summer (not calling anyone out, I believe as much or more than anybody different strokes for different folks) is when do your players perfect their craft?
For example, baseball has summer and fall leagues and countless private sessions for pitching and hitting. Soccer has Spring and fall leagues, basketball ....'nuff said. Volleyball is as bad as basketball, etc.
I've always felt that the summer was really the only pre-season prep we have for our sport outside of lifting (which in our district is open to anybody who wants to use it, so not primarily a FB activity). What's so bad about working the kids some? Personally I feel it's the only time we can really hone their skills and I see nothing wrong w/ keeping HS kids on somewhat of a regulated regimen. I mean they are going to have to be on one through the rest of lives anyway right? JMO.
PS - I openly support other sports programs and extra curricular activities during the summer that conflict w/ what we do as well. I have kids miss due to boy scouts, foreign language trips, etc. Clearly these other entities are not afraid to ask for our kids time. Why should we be? Not looking to brawl, just curious of the thought process.
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Post by fantom on Jun 30, 2014 9:36:13 GMT -6
One of the questions I have for those of you who seem to be kind of "anti-practice" during the summer (not calling anyone out, I believe as much or more than anybody different strokes for different folks) is when do your players perfect their craft? I have kids miss due to boy scouts, foreign language trips, etc. Clearly these other entities are not afraid to ask for our kids time. Why should we be? Not looking to brawl, just curious of the thought process. That last part is key to me. As long as you understand that kids (and coaches) will want to do other things during the summer, fine.
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Post by blb on Jun 30, 2014 9:36:16 GMT -6
One of the questions I have for those of you who seem to be kind of "anti-practice" during the summer (not calling anyone out, I believe as much or more than anybody different strokes for different folks) is when do your players perfect their craft?
As posted before we have restrictions on what we can do in Summer.
Philosophically, and maybe it's because of my age, I feel kids need time to be kids. We can help them "perfect their craft" through strength training, conditioning, 7-on-7, camp(s), and especially Two-a-Days.
Practically, I am concerned about burn-out. I have seen good teams who do a lot in the Summer - workouts five days a week, couple 7-on-7s each week and tournaments on Saturdays, multiple weeks of camps - fizzle out come playoff time because a lot of the kids have had enough, just don't want to play Football anymore that year.
Personally, I don't want to start practice in August mad at kids because they missed something in June or July.
"To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose.."
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