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Post by coach2013 on Mar 13, 2014 17:20:32 GMT -6
Once you have your systems, everyone has jobs and defined roles, schedules are set, depth chart is evaluated and discussed, off season maxes and testing has been looked at as a staff
what other things are you discussing?
Or do you even bother in the email age?
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 13, 2014 17:26:36 GMT -6
Once you have your systems, everyone has jobs and defined roles, schedules are set, depth chart is evaluated and discussed, off season maxes and testing has been looked at as a staff what other things are you discussing? Or do you even bother in the email age? I haven't seen my staff in one place, at one time since our last game. And not because we email.
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Post by coach2013 on Mar 13, 2014 17:41:13 GMT -6
same- we couldn't even all make the banquet and have yet to see everyone in the wt room.
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Post by Underdeveloped on Mar 13, 2014 17:42:42 GMT -6
We try to all attend a glazier together.
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Post by gators1422 on Mar 13, 2014 17:58:30 GMT -6
We are all on a group text (6 coaches) and never a day goes by that we aren't talking about something. Not always football related but since no one but the head coach works at the school it keeps everybody connected. We usually do something together at least once month though. Clinic, we had a coaches weekend with the wives before the season and after.
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Post by wolfden12 on Mar 13, 2014 18:44:53 GMT -6
We always have a staff retreat at a clinic to do a number of things: 1. Get all coaches together new and old and spend some quality time together and get to know one another. We give an overview of our program, logistics, summer, season, offense, defense, kicking. It also gets those together who might be in another sport. Beneficial because our staff has no coaches out of 16 (9-12) in the same building. 2. We try to meet once a month starting in March to get coaches who cannot be at weights on athletes, talk scheme and install and how we are going to teach. It helps us get on the same page with terminology, cohesiveness, and being comfortable. We also try to bring other coaches, young coaches, and new coaches along in how we want to run the program. 3. It allows us to keep things fresh and not allow coaches to be overwhelmed if they just show up in the summer. Our coach is very organized and wants everything and everyone knowing our expectations prior to the summer
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 19:06:19 GMT -6
We don't have staff meetings during the season, much less in the offseason, but we all see each other at weights 3 times a week. There's only 3 of us and we're all in the building, so we see each other quite a bit. Unfortunately, we don't talk much about actual football. We'll discuss players and gripe about how kids aren't working hard enough in the weightroom, but that's about it.
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Post by rudyrude9 on Mar 14, 2014 13:22:03 GMT -6
We meet at least twice a month sometimes once a week depending on conflicts.
Once we have covered the overall program topics like next years staff, depth, possible practice tweaks. Then we will move on to taking a look at our upcoming scheudle. Every year our weeks 1 and 2 are teams that we do not play every year. We take a week or 2 on each of our first two games. Breakdown the games we have on them and do a practice gameplan as if we were going to play that week. This helps show the way to any new guys on staff as to how we go about things. Also gives guys in new roles a chance to see what their responsibilities will be.
After that we will go though each of our conference opponents and spend a week on each. Taking close looks at what we did well and what we didn't do well. Making sure if there are any issues that can be fixed by teaching things better earlier on in the season.
As we get closer to July we will set our plan for our Camp and then for our Two a Days.
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Post by coachphillip on Mar 14, 2014 13:32:08 GMT -6
Does a pint and a burger count as a meeting? Those are my favorite kinds of meetings.
We have a solid core of five coaches from the varsity and the JV that go to everything (weights, clinics, meetings, hang outs). The rest of the guys come when they can. It's hard to tell a guy he HAS to be somewhere for no pay when they have the opportunity to get paid a federal minimum wage for their time elsewhere.
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 14, 2014 14:14:24 GMT -6
same- we couldn't even all make the banquet and have yet to see everyone in the wt room. Same here. I'm not a meeting guy. Meetings to me are wasted time. The only meetings I ever have during the season when we watch film. And that's about 3 hours long at the most. Outside maybe getting an idea or two from a clinic, there isn't anything you're going to revolutionize for next year at this point of the season. Get kids in the weight room. Your depth charts, schemes, etc mean absolutely nothing at this point. Kids grow, move, get suspended, etc. I worked for a meeting guy once. Was actually the most disorganized person I've ever worked with. But he had plenty of nice packets and vision statements and quotes. Spent hours upon hours in meetings too. Most dysfunctional program I've ever been around. For my money, meetings guys have meetings so they can "work" lots of hours and have "organization". We're not taking over a country or running Microsoft. We coach a sport. A pretty simple one at that.
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Post by coach2013 on Mar 14, 2014 14:40:10 GMT -6
I feel like I do a ton of planning that ends up tossed out the window as it is. A coach cant make it, a player misses, the junior class has a field trip and so on.
I hope to have one winter meeting (or spring) and one in the summer (cookout) and that's enough.
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Post by Chris Clement on Mar 15, 2014 12:51:13 GMT -6
We meet as necessary, with those coaches that are necessary. In the summer we meet weekly by off/def to talk over ideas for next season, the winter is usually ad hoc when something comes up, maybe monthly.
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Post by coach2013 on Mar 15, 2014 13:19:12 GMT -6
I seriously have a guy who hasn't made an off season meeting yet. Hes a good assistant but cant seem to be available.
How many of you assistant coaches WANT TO meet in the off season on a MONTHLY basis? and why?
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Post by coachbdud on Mar 15, 2014 14:08:07 GMT -6
We are currently meeting every Wednesday night We've done this the last few weeks
We are at somewhat of a cross roads both offensively and defensively... So we are making some schematic adjustments to what we do These meetings have been to discuss and bounce ideas around Essentially refining our own offense and defense
We are pretty much done offensively ... Have our concepts dialed in how we want to teach and drill them, how we will protect our base concepts
Working on defense as a staff next few weeks And then the focus will shift to our spring ball and early summer (pre camp) schedule and focus
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Post by coach2013 on Mar 15, 2014 14:41:44 GMT -6
We are currently meeting every Wednesday night We've done this the last few weeks We are at somewhat of a cross roads both offensively and defensively... So we are making some schematic adjustments to what we do These meetings have been to discuss and bounce ideas around Essentially refining our own offense and defense We are pretty much done offensively ... Have our concepts dialed in how we want to teach and drill them, how we will protect our base concepts Working on defense as a staff next few weeks And then the focus will shift to our spring ball and early summer (pre camp) schedule and focus I can see why you would meet. We are wing-t and 353 and that's not changing. Terminology isn't changing. We need to work on discipline and accountability, weight room performance and all coaches getting there. Other than that...I am not sure what we really have to discuss. We can always talk about a better way to practice or drill -but schemes are decided and set.
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Post by z on Mar 16, 2014 5:42:50 GMT -6
We always have a staff retreat at a clinic to do a number of things: 1. Get all coaches together new and old and spend some quality time together and get to know one another. We give an overview of our program, logistics, summer, season, offense, defense, kicking. It also gets those together who might be in another sport. Beneficial because our staff has no coaches out of 16 (9-12) in the same building. 2. We try to meet once a month starting in March to get coaches who cannot be at weights on athletes, talk scheme and install and how we are going to teach. It helps us get on the same page with terminology, cohesiveness, and being comfortable. We also try to bring other coaches, young coaches, and new coaches along in how we want to run the program. 3. It allows us to keep things fresh and not allow coaches to be overwhelmed if they just show up in the summer. Our coach is very organized and wants everything and everyone knowing our expectations prior to the summer Very good Wolf! Wanted to do the exact same thing this offseason. Was put on the sideline with severe back problems which caused me to miss a number of days from school. We will begin our offseason meetings at the end of March, and will culminate in a coaches clinic for our rec league and middle school coaches, and a retreat for our staff to do exactly what #2 states above.
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Post by mrjvi on Mar 16, 2014 6:16:21 GMT -6
coaches meet with each other on a need based situation. Most of our total staff meetings are in early season and are personnel related.
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Post by blb on Mar 16, 2014 7:04:28 GMT -6
When I first get a job we meet once a month in Off-Season to educate coaches on our system.
After that we don't meet in Off-Season.
Fact is our coaches are occupied with academic or business affairs, coaching other sports, and family lives, so are simply not available.
And frankly I have a dislike for meetings so keep them to a minimum.
We meet the Thursday and Friday before season starts to get organized, discuss any changes, personnel.
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Post by s73 on Mar 16, 2014 7:26:43 GMT -6
same- we couldn't even all make the banquet and have yet to see everyone in the wt room. Same here. I'm not a meeting guy. Meetings to me are wasted time. The only meetings I ever have during the season when we watch film. And that's about 3 hours long at the most. Outside maybe getting an idea or two from a clinic, there isn't anything you're going to revolutionize for next year at this point of the season. Get kids in the weight room. Your depth charts, schemes, etc mean absolutely nothing at this point. Kids grow, move, get suspended, etc. I worked for a meeting guy once. Was actually the most disorganized person I've ever worked with. But he had plenty of nice packets and vision statements and quotes. Spent hours upon hours in meetings too. Most dysfunctional program I've ever been around. For my money, meetings guys have meetings so they can "work" lots of hours and have "organization". We're not taking over a country or running Microsoft. We coach a sport. A pretty simple one at that. I think you and me may have worked for the same guy once. We usually try to visit a practice of another school in the area that is maybe still in the state tournament if we have been eliminated. We meet over Xmas break for adult beverages and a very informal discussion about football and we clinic once a year. That's seems to be enough for us to keep us in touch and keep the rust off w/o overkilling it.
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Post by blb on Mar 16, 2014 7:36:12 GMT -6
If we met this time of year I wouldn't know what to cover (that wasn't redundant).
One college I coached at we used to have morning meetings to plan our meetings later in the day.
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 16, 2014 18:08:58 GMT -6
If we met this time of year I wouldn't know what to cover (that wasn't redundant). One college I coached at we used to have morning meetings to plan our meetings later in the day. I think some people meet just because I don't think they can deal with some free time. It's like they feel like they have to meet so they think they can be productive. I've found that meetings guys are frequently hours worked guys. Me, I'd rather get my work done as efficiently and quickly as possible with as little jibber jabber as possible.
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Post by tog on Mar 16, 2014 19:03:34 GMT -6
we meet once a week during the offseason, and then in prep for spring ball will meet 11 times before school in three weeks for two hours each time
hey
if you don't like it......move to mumford texas
(they don't play football there)
lol
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Post by gdn56 on Mar 16, 2014 19:56:49 GMT -6
I haven't seen our coaches since the season ended. The hc and I are the only two that work in the building. He coaches basketball, I coach track and run the weight room. We discuss kids in passing ("hey coach how is so and so doing in the weight room"). That's about the extent of it. I don't care so much about "meeting" in the offseason, but it would be nice to at least see the rest of the staff. Our coaches don't come to the weight room, we never clinic together, they rarely show up to any other events at the school. I think it really creates a strange dynamic where the majority of our staff only knows each other as "football coaches" and only know our kids as "football players". Tough to argue that your program is about more than Xs and Os, wins and losses when your coaches only show up for football season. Again, not necessarily worried about meetings, but I think a greater level of commitment to the program outside of the season could really help us grow the product and help our kids develop.
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Post by keysersoze on Mar 16, 2014 20:55:11 GMT -6
We haven't met as a staff since the banquet. I have met with our DC five or six times formally, and a few of our other coaches once or twice. I am taking my staff out of state for spring football. We'll meet a bunch in May.
I also send group Emails with thoughts, links, questions, etc. I'd say one or two coaches respond but I know most are reading them and keeping up with my thoughts. This is mainly because I have an older staff that doesn't use Email all that much other than for football. During bowl season, I use the HUDL app on my phone to take video of interesting stuff some teams are doing and share it with my staff.
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Post by coach2013 on Mar 17, 2014 2:21:12 GMT -6
We haven't met as a staff since the banquet. I have met with our DC five or six times formally, and a few of our other coaches once or twice. I am taking my staff out of state for spring football. We'll meet a bunch in May. I also send group Emails with thoughts, links, questions, etc. I'd say one or two coaches respond but I know most are reading them and keeping up with my thoughts. This is mainly because I have an older staff that doesn't use Email all that much other than for football. During bowl season, I use the HUDL app on my phone to take video of interesting stuff some teams are doing and share it with my staff. similar here- some do not read email - some take weeks to check it
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 17, 2014 13:28:58 GMT -6
we meet once a week during the offseason, and then in prep for spring ball will meet 11 times before school in three weeks for two hours each time hey if you don't like it......move to mumford texas (they don't play football there) lol What do you do in these weekly offseason meetings? What can possibly take 22 hours of prep for spring ball?
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Post by tog on Mar 17, 2014 20:54:14 GMT -6
we meet once a week during the offseason, and then in prep for spring ball will meet 11 times before school in three weeks for two hours each time hey if you don't like it......move to mumford texas (they don't play football there) lol What do you do in these weekly offseason meetings? What can possibly take 22 hours of prep for spring ball? How detailed are you when you gameplan and practice plan on the weekend during the season? There is no offseason.
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 18, 2014 7:05:56 GMT -6
Apparently not that detailed.
We somehow manage to get everything done in one 2-3 hour meeting each week.
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Post by rsmith627 on Mar 18, 2014 7:22:59 GMT -6
I seriously have a guy who hasn't made an off season meeting yet. Hes a good assistant but cant seem to be available. How many of you assistant coaches WANT TO meet in the off season on a MONTHLY basis? and why? I wouldn't complain about it if we met monthly, but I don't feel like we have the best communication as a staff either. Our HC doesn't take the time to let you really know what your position group or assignment will be until the last minute. That's his prerogative as a HC, but it bothers me sometimes. I also feel like we do a lot of wholesale changing between every season here.
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Post by coach2013 on Mar 18, 2014 8:22:00 GMT -6
I seriously have a guy who hasn't made an off season meeting yet. Hes a good assistant but cant seem to be available. How many of you assistant coaches WANT TO meet in the off season on a MONTHLY basis? and why? I wouldn't complain about it if we met monthly, but I don't feel like we have the best communication as a staff either. Our HC doesn't take the time to let you really know what your position group or assignment will be until the last minute. That's his prerogative as a HC, but it bothers me sometimes. I also feel like we do a lot of wholesale changing between every season here. That's rough. I cant see how you can get comfortable and really know your stuff if its going to change constantly.
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