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Post by 33coach on Mar 10, 2014 15:56:25 GMT -6
as was already said: cussing at others is disrespectful and gets shut down immediately. i also think that the points of "being in a job environment" and "representing the team" are good reasons to not swear at all. i think we all would agree that if we didnt need swearing and never used it, we wouldnt miss anything. i too drop a "damn" sometimes, even as a positive statement: "damn, what a catch". but i think, even if there is some tolerance for it, we would not promote it. so swearing, even if its not always a really really bad thing, its no good thing also. but i am not a fan of prohibiting something - and its not an effective way also. although it sometimes is necessary, i try to look for ways around it. i want to give another reason why swearing is bad for your players and at the same time a way of how to avoid it or change the culture. i found it very helpful with my receivers this year. blog.drstankovich.com/3-reasons-why-cue-words-increase-athletic-success/swearing at others: disrespectful, not tolerated and prohibited for good reasons swearing at oneself: is bad for your performance, not tolerated but not prohibited. instead try to reverse the culture into a positive one. this gets all foul language out and gets you more benefits than prohibitting it. thats all well and good, but whats swearing? are we talking about the F word? or GD? or A$$ or D@mn? what about Fudge? (a common replacement) or Gosh Darnit (again..a common replacement) why are those ok if the words that they are replacing arnt? i have a hard time with enforcing rules on specific words when replacements SHOULD be just as harmful (scientifically YOU know what you are saying, and so does everyone around you...so isnt it realistic to think that it has the exact same effect?). also, we worry about "bad words", but do we worry about a kid running off the field happily yelling "Coach i Murdered that guy!" or "Coach we raped those fools!".
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Post by coachbdud on Mar 10, 2014 16:03:23 GMT -6
as was already said: cussing at others is disrespectful and gets shut down immediately. i also think that the points of "being in a job environment" and "representing the team" are good reasons to not swear at all. i think we all would agree that if we didnt need swearing and never used it, we wouldnt miss anything. i too drop a "damn" sometimes, even as a positive statement: "damn, what a catch". but i think, even if there is some tolerance for it, we would not promote it. so swearing, even if its not always a really really bad thing, its no good thing also. but i am not a fan of prohibiting something - and its not an effective way also. although it sometimes is necessary, i try to look for ways around it. i want to give another reason why swearing is bad for your players and at the same time a way of how to avoid it or change the culture. i found it very helpful with my receivers this year. blog.drstankovich.com/3-reasons-why-cue-words-increase-athletic-success/swearing at others: disrespectful, not tolerated and prohibited for good reasons swearing at oneself: is bad for your performance, not tolerated but not prohibited. instead try to reverse the culture into a positive one. this gets all foul language out and gets you more benefits than prohibitting it. thats all well and good, but whats swearing? are we talking about the F word? or GD? or A$$ or D@mn? what about Fudge? (a common replacement) or Gosh Darnit (again..a common replacement) why are those ok if the words that they are replacing arnt? i have a hard time with enforcing rules on specific words when replacements SHOULD be just as harmful (scientifically YOU know what you are saying, and so does everyone around you...so isnt it realistic to think that it has the exact same effect?). also, we worry about "bad words", but do we worry about a kid running off the field happily yelling "Coach i Murdered that guy!" or "Coach we raped those fools!". good points some of it is a little subjective i think based upon your view of the words for example, if a kid said GD... i wouldn't even notice it but i know to some people, that's like one of the worst things you can say
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Post by coachb0 on Mar 10, 2014 17:15:35 GMT -6
as was already said: cussing at others is disrespectful and gets shut down immediately. i also think that the points of "being in a job environment" and "representing the team" are good reasons to not swear at all. i think we all would agree that if we didnt need swearing and never used it, we wouldnt miss anything. i too drop a "damn" sometimes, even as a positive statement: "damn, what a catch". but i think, even if there is some tolerance for it, we would not promote it. so swearing, even if its not always a really really bad thing, its no good thing also. but i am not a fan of prohibiting something - and its not an effective way also. although it sometimes is necessary, i try to look for ways around it. i want to give another reason why swearing is bad for your players and at the same time a way of how to avoid it or change the culture. i found it very helpful with my receivers this year. blog.drstankovich.com/3-reasons-why-cue-words-increase-athletic-success/swearing at others: disrespectful, not tolerated and prohibited for good reasons swearing at oneself: is bad for your performance, not tolerated but not prohibited. instead try to reverse the culture into a positive one. this gets all foul language out and gets you more benefits than prohibitting it. thats all well and good, but whats swearing? are we talking about the F word? or GD? or A$$ or D@mn? what about Fudge? (a common replacement) or Gosh Darnit (again..a common replacement) why are those ok if the words that they are replacing arnt? i have a hard time with enforcing rules on specific words when replacements SHOULD be just as harmful (scientifically YOU know what you are saying, and so does everyone around you...so isnt it realistic to think that it has the exact same effect?). also, we worry about "bad words", but do we worry about a kid running off the field happily yelling "Coach i Murdered that guy!" or "Coach we raped those fools!". thats why i didnt include any concrete words, because it is a matter of individual and contextual factors, what you consider swearing. depending on your cultural or sociological surroundings, you should try to avoid what "is regarded" as swearing. i dont like to think of words as "bad" in itself really. its arbitrary what a word means and what it is used for. we use the same word with positive and negative connotations all the time. fudge is bad, if it is either used to disrespect someone or if it is regarded as being classless or something like it making others feel bad about the one using it, while for him its only a way to show or release emotion. i think in the latter case the word should be avoided to your own interests, because there are better choices that fulfill the same purpose and i think using a word in a more positive way like described in the article not only helps representing yourself but also is helping you athletically. you should avoid these words, even if you yourself did not regard it as a word as bad or wanted to make someone feel bad. thats where the disciplinary sanctions come from: telling the kids, the words are bad, because theyre representing lack of discipline in watching ones own language. if you dont care what others think, go along using it. but in a team, you have to care what the others think, so you dont have that choice to make. because you represent the team, a word regarded as bad, makes the team look bad and thus is a bad word. but still, if nobody thinks the word is bad around this team, its not bad at all (sometimes teams from very different contextes face each other and as a poster described, the one team thinks the other is swearing a lot and this could be interpreted as being undisciplined. but it might not be regarded as bad by the other team. then its not bad at all, if this team doesnt care about what their opponents think of them and it doesnt lead to undiscipline). the same goes with replacements: if theyre used to "hide" the bad words, while meaning the same, theyre as bad as the originals. but i think there are so many replacements, because most people dont think of the word "f u c k" as a real bad one, but they have to find a way to not get censored so they use some replacement. i mean.. you cant even use it in a descriptive way like i did above. i didnt use the word, i just described it and it gets still censored.. i dont get it. i completely agree with the last part of your post. humiliating sentences dont have to contain "bad words" to be disrespectful and thus bad.
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