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Post by fantom on Feb 12, 2014 13:13:20 GMT -6
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Post by wingtol on Feb 12, 2014 13:48:18 GMT -6
About all I could say about that idea. Want a ring? Join the team and earn it.
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Post by morris on Feb 12, 2014 13:51:01 GMT -6
aaah HEll Na! As a player and as a coach. If I was a player I would be pissed. They didn't earn that ring.
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Post by coachphillip on Feb 12, 2014 13:55:42 GMT -6
What kind of loser buys a championship ring for a team he wasn't on? I think I'm going to throw a basketball patch on my high school's varsity jacket. They were pretty good that year.
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Post by jrk5150 on Feb 12, 2014 14:22:01 GMT -6
I've heard, I don't know, that the team and coaches are in favor of it.
Since they earned it, and (if true) they support it, shouldn't that pretty much be the end of the discussion?
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Post by fballcoachg on Feb 12, 2014 14:22:16 GMT -6
I don't think you will get many who defend it.
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Post by fantom on Feb 12, 2014 15:13:17 GMT -6
How about if selling rings allows kids and coaches to get theirs for free?
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Post by tigercoach11 on Feb 12, 2014 15:32:29 GMT -6
Im just confused on why they are doing this? I mean sell t-shirts to them but not rings...We had to raise money for ours this year and the players/coaches/AD/and one team manager that had been there all summer and through two-a-days etc got one. the kids that were "managers" that maybe filled up water bottles for one week then disappeared etc... all showed up for the fitting were told exactly why they would not be getting one
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Post by morris on Feb 12, 2014 16:25:46 GMT -6
How about if selling rings allows kids and coaches to get theirs for free? I might misread the article but didn't it say the play in a 60 million dollar stadium? If so I would think they could find the money. If the coaches and players don't have an issue then great for them. I know if I was a player I would be pissed. I know what that ring means to me.
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Post by fantom on Feb 12, 2014 16:50:32 GMT -6
How about if selling rings allows kids and coaches to get theirs for free? I might misread the article but didn't it say the play in a 60 million dollar stadium? If so I would think they could find the money. If the coaches and players don't have an issue then great for them. I know if I was a player I would be pissed. I know what that ring means to me. Maybe the stadium is where the money went.
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Post by morris on Feb 12, 2014 16:53:03 GMT -6
It might have. I posted this on another website and according to a guy that lives in the area they sellout before the season starts. I have no clue how many it seats, upkeep and everything.
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Post by fantom on Feb 12, 2014 17:05:58 GMT -6
It might have. I posted this on another website and according to a guy that lives in the area they sellout before the season starts. I have no clue how many it seats, upkeep and everything. I wouldn't buy a ring that I didn't earn either especially for $299. Hell, I wouldn't pay $299 for one that I did earn. If it's OK with their players and coaches, though, it's none of my business.
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Post by sfcoacho on Feb 12, 2014 18:22:51 GMT -6
We were fortunate enough to have just won a state championship this year and certainly never considered this. We sold merchandise (t-shirts, hoodies, sweatshirts, travel mugs, glasses, decals - all that good stuff) but certainly never, ever considered selling rings to the general public.
It wouldn't cheapen anything for me as a member of the team but I'd just feel silly buying one as an outsider.
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 12, 2014 19:06:59 GMT -6
I know the football culture is crazy down there, but that's some awesome school spirit if ordinary students are buying them. If we did this after winning the state championship, only about 15 non football students would probably buy them.
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Post by mrjvi on Feb 12, 2014 19:46:58 GMT -6
We just won the state championship and I would be very annoyed if anyone but my team would be allowed to get one. Give a ribbon to everyone!!!!
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 13, 2014 9:19:55 GMT -6
I'm not surprised. Live life vicariously through others...that's the new American way. I mean you can buy an authentic NFL or College jersey just like they wear on the field right? It was just a matter of time. I wouldn't buy one or wear one that I did not earn but then again I don't have a NCAA or NFL jersey either. So true. I am not really a "fan" of anyone... and don't really understand the whole "we" when talking about NFL or NCAA teams.
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Post by dodson10 on Feb 13, 2014 9:36:18 GMT -6
The stadium was funded through a bond and you can't use that money for anything but facilities. I live 5 minutes south of Allen. It is a tight knit community in the middle of the metroplex. They have over 5700 people in the school. Their old stadium wasn't big enough to account for the growth, so they built a brand new stadium. I would imagine it's a fundraiser to help the football players out with the buying of their rings with the profits from the rings sold to students. I'm not personally for it, but other teams have done this in the past. I wouldn't imagine many people buying them.
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Post by jrk5150 on Feb 13, 2014 10:02:56 GMT -6
First - if it was my team, I can think of other ways to pull the town into our success. But it's not my team.
$50-60 million stadium that sells out every year. Sounds like an incredibly supportive community. Perhaps this is recognition that without community support, they maybe don't win a ring?
Again, I understand if you wouldn't want to do it for YOUR team, but this isn't your team. I'm just saying I can see the argument that something like this is a nice little outreach/PR move to recognize and keep community support behind the team. This is OUR team as a community, we ALL have made some level of sacrifice (bond to build stadium = a lot of taxpayer $'s) to get them where they are, so let's all celebrate the success.
If the kids agree, and the coaches agree, then works for me. And if I was the HC and the kids all wanted to do it, I'd go along whether I agreed or not.
That said, not sure what's wrong with tee shirts, LOL.
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Post by fugulookinat on Feb 13, 2014 10:17:03 GMT -6
We won a State Championship in 2003 and the only people allowed to get a ring were players and coaches. The ring was high quality and was something that the players were very proud of. We won another State Championship in 2006 and anyone who wanted one could buy one, including the student body and even parents of the student body. It was done to provide a more reasonable cost for the rings of the actual players. The 2003 ring was $700 and the 2006 ring was $300. The 2006 ring ended up costing less, but was not nearly as high quality as the 2003 ring and it was a joke because every body and their dog had one.
I'm not a fan of this idea.
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Post by otis50 on Feb 13, 2014 13:40:20 GMT -6
Wish our students attended our games, let alone wanted a ring! Who really cares about a ring anyways? Its about the work you put in to hoist that trophy in December, not the rings. As a coach and player I've earned a few handfuls, bought 3, wear none. and am all for students/fans purchasing at a higher price to subsidize the cost of the ring for players.
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 13, 2014 15:03:20 GMT -6
Our nickname/mascot is the bulldogs. Our student section calls themselves the "dawg pound". If this happened here and the school said any student can buy a ring, then I would propose two different ones. One for the players, and one for the students that were a little different with a reference to the "dawg pound".
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 13, 2014 23:43:32 GMT -6
To be fair it is kind of a school accomplishment
If some of those girls weren't taking care of some of those boys needs they might not have as relaxed and able to excel on the field
(Jk)
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Post by spartan on Feb 13, 2014 23:55:53 GMT -6
When we won in in 2011 I allowed every member of the team JV through Water boy to get a ring no matter what role you played. I also allowed any alumni to get a ring they wanted but it had to have the 2011 year on it. The reason I allowed alumni was to boost sales so that some kids of lower social economic status could get one though a deal we had negotiated with Jostens.
I Still got a call from Jostens 5X about independent people not affiliated with the program in any capacity trying to buy a ring. Including a student who had graduated a year before and not played because he was "Basket ball only"
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 14, 2014 7:39:29 GMT -6
I'm kind of being serious here....What about the band that comes to all the games and the cheerleaders? I'm not saying they should get the same ring, but they kind of deserve something don't they? I would say they are part of the overall program.
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Post by fballcoachg on Feb 14, 2014 8:03:34 GMT -6
I'm kind of being serious here....What about the band that comes to all the games and the cheerleaders? I'm not saying they should get the same ring, but they kind of deserve something don't they? I would say they are part of the overall program. That's a good question. I've seen boosters, camera guys, stat guys, and others get rings. What did the stat guy do to earn the ring? I wouldn't have any problem with the cheerleaders getting one. As someone else proposed maybe the cheerleaders and band get a different one?
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 14, 2014 8:26:34 GMT -6
For example, my college ring has an insignia of my major on one side and a football stuff on the other. You can customize these rings. The band can have band stuff on one of the sides, the cheerleaders can have their megaphone and pom pom logo on one of the sides etc.
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Post by dytmook on Feb 15, 2014 16:36:13 GMT -6
I'm kind of being serious here....What about the band that comes to all the games and the cheerleaders? I'm not saying they should get the same ring, but they kind of deserve something don't they? I would say they are part of the overall program. That's a good question. I've seen boosters, camera guys, stat guys, and others get rings. What did the stat guy do to earn the ring? I wouldn't have any problem with the cheerleaders getting one. As someone else proposed maybe the cheerleaders and band get a different one?The kids love their stats and the stat guys travel a great deal and give up a lot of time to make sure they are correct. I'd say they earn it. I am a little biased as our stat guys have been great and one was my brother this past year. That being said I think our stat guys deserve it because they care about it being accurate especially in comparison to some of the other stat guys they meet. Depends on their commitment I guess, I'm just glad we have good ones.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 15, 2014 16:47:30 GMT -6
Sadly, this discussion is dancing around the underlying problem that seems to be growing--at least with people I see. The allure of having someone THINK you accomplished something seems to be greater than desire to actually accomplish something.
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 15, 2014 21:32:51 GMT -6
Sadly, this discussion is dancing around the underlying problem that seems to be growing--at least with people I see. The allure of having someone THINK you accomplished something seems to be greater than desire to actually accomplish something. Is that why they are doing it though? Or are they doing it for what they feal is school spirit. We may think it's stupid and it's to give every student a sense of accomplishment, like "everyone's a winner". But the people or person who's idea this was may not be thinking of it that way. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using proboards
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 15, 2014 21:43:57 GMT -6
Sadly, this discussion is dancing around the underlying problem that seems to be growing--at least with people I see. The allure of having someone THINK you accomplished something seems to be greater than desire to actually accomplish something. Is that why they are doing it though? Or are they doing it for what they feal is school spirit. We may think it's stupid and it's to give every student a sense of accomplishment, like "everyone's a winner". But the people or person who's idea this was may not be thinking of it that way. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using proboards I am talking about the people BUYING the rings, not the intention of those selling the rings.
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