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Post by kurtbryan on Dec 22, 2007 17:44:56 GMT -6
Hi Coaches:
As a married man and longtime coach - but with the divorce or breakup rate amongst our peers very, very high, well...
I thought I would change things up in a Major way and ask the penultimate questions that hang like clouds over many of us hardworking coaches:
1. How do you keep your wife/girlfriend totally happy during football season?
2. How do you do make them happy during the off-season?
3. What compromises and/or sacrifices do you make so you can coach?
Other offshoots from these questions?
Happy Holidays.
Kurt
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2007 17:57:02 GMT -6
I'm not too sure the coaching profession has a "high" divorce rate--I think the nation is hovering around 50%!! BTW, I'm not married, but may be in the somewhat near future. 1. Explained to her what my time schedule was during the season and what to expect (or not expect) from me. Was she totally satisfied--no, but she appreciated what I could do for her. 2. Not really a challenge now, because my energy is going into job searching as opposed to staff stuff. I'm pretty much resigned to the fact I won't be coaching with my current employer next fall. It was a shock to her that I needed to work on football "even though the season is over" 3. No real compromise, but obviously a sacrifice is very little time spent with her Monday am-through sat pm. An offshoot question? How do wives handle the "nomadic" lifestyle that often comes with coaching and teaching in general? My girlfriend isn't a teacher, so I don't know whay may or may not come up in the future as far as jobs.
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Post by kurtbryan on Dec 22, 2007 18:27:45 GMT -6
Yeah, the nomadic lifestyle you mention is well put for wives/girlfriends, can we use w/g from now on?
Nomadic, coaching high school is much different because you are not required to move as much, but college and pro, yes, much tougher on the w/g.
Amount of time put into off-season stuff. I try to make it easy as possible on my staff by having our in-season or off-season staff meetings on Sunday nights from 6pm - 10pm, most of the time.
Figure that gives coaches an opportunity to spend time with family and friends on the weekend and/or take a quick vacation to supplement their regular breaks.
The nomadic aspect though is hard to get across to young w/g because I believe the latest figure is the average coach in football changes jobs at least 5 times in 20 years.
KB
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Post by bigcroz on Dec 22, 2007 18:34:10 GMT -6
Too keep her happy, I usually...... Oh yeah, i didnt that would be part of the reason for filing for divorce:( BEst for all involved!!!
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Post by tothehouse on Dec 22, 2007 18:35:20 GMT -6
1. How do you keep your wife/girlfriend totally happy during football season?
I think that if I show a complete effort to do as much as I can with my two young sons and stuff around the house I'm fine. And I want to do this. I think if my attitude was, "o man....I have to do ________" it wouldn't be so good. Here is the kicker. My wife knows what football means to me and what I do. She understands that I teach and coach and that it's my job.
2. How do you do the same during the off-season?
Easy - more time for everything else. I don't have to ask my wife about going to a clinic, I just tell her that I'm going. I don't want that to come off like I just tell her and that's the way it is. There is an understanding, again, that this is what I do. I go above and beyond for my own kids and she knows this so the balance is easy.
3. What comprises do you have to make and/or sacrifices do you make so you can coach?
See above. Why compromise? Fit everything in. If something doesn't fit, prioritize and see if you need to get rid of something from your schedule. Make sure the right priorities are at the top of your list and it shouldn't be a big deal.
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 22, 2007 18:50:36 GMT -6
1) don't be at the field house when you don't have to be. i.e. if you aint' got work to do, then don't be gone. make sure you are efficient
2) take something simple and make it special. for me/my wife it is watching a specific tv show together during the middle of the week. everything stops for that time - no kids - just us.
3) have dinner at the field house once a week (lunch, whatever). make it a "working" lunch type of thing, basically. for me/my family it usually happens when i'm doing some things on the computer rather than watching film. we eat - chat - then they leave and i finish up.
4) do lots of things in the off season. make the most of your time. "take over" many household duties
5) bottom line - keep her involved and do as much with family when you don't have to be doing football (which is why i don't go to as many playoff games or "work" unreal football hours) be efficient then show her you are their for her and she'll reciprocate and be much more understanding.
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Post by sls on Dec 22, 2007 18:55:28 GMT -6
I think it is key that they see what the season is like before you get married. My wife and I started dating when I played college football and then I went stright into coaching. The busy fall is the only thing she knows. It is also helpful that football is pretty much the only thing I do. I don't do guys night out, or go hunting or fishing. Use to golf some, but once I had kids I gave that up, the past 2 years I have went twice. So I am busy through football season, but pretty much the rest of the year I do what she wants. It is important that she feels involved, she is at all of the events and knows the boys and the team. She also goes to thingwith me, she is going to the AFCA conention and has been involved with the Wife's Association, that made her realize that as a wife of a HS coach, she has it pretty easy compared to a college coach.
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 22, 2007 19:02:13 GMT -6
... made her realize that as a wife of a HS coach, she has it pretty easy compared to a college coach. this can be a "traumatic" thing for families when a guy goes from hs to college (heck, to go from one 'level' to the next, for that matter). which is why i try to get my wife involved as much as possible. let her see just what all it is we do and how long it 'should' take. then, try to stick to that time-frame as much as possible. think you hit it when you said that you do have to give up some things during the off-season to make up for the time away during the season. don't underestimate the affect of simple things like just going grocery shopping together or you going to have lunch at her place of business.
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Post by coachmoore42 on Dec 22, 2007 19:40:45 GMT -6
Married for a year and a half, I've been a coach the entire time we've been together.
1. How do you keep your wife/girlfriend totally happy during football season?
Win games.
2. How do you do the same during the off-season?
Show her my new ways to win games and take her to a clinic or two, she loves to eat at new places. The guys I coach with don't go as much as I do anyway (most not at all), so it's much better than going alone.
3. What comprises do you have to make and/or sacrifices do you make so you can coach?
None that I can think of.
We don't have any kids yet, and I'm sure that this will change when that time comes. For now, she is the team's biggest fan. As long as I seem happy with my coaching situation then she is happy.
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Post by spos21ram on Dec 22, 2007 20:08:57 GMT -6
Im still quite young and am not married so I make sure before I get into a "more serious" with someone that they know the deal. They understand I have a passion for coaching and also men's softball takes up alot of time in the spring and summer.
But as long as your wife understands how important football is to you they should respect that and be willing to work with your other commitments.
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Post by sls on Dec 22, 2007 20:18:27 GMT -6
also men's softball takes up alot of time in the spring and summer. Spos21Ram I DO NOT mean this as an attack on you, at all. But IMO, once a dedicated football coach is married, this is something that a coach can give up to spend more time with wife and kids.
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 22, 2007 20:20:11 GMT -6
yep ... we eventually have to "trade" in-season time for off-season time --- which may mean we give up some of our "hobbies" to take up things that the whole family does (or the wife likes to do, as well)
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Post by coachjd on Dec 22, 2007 20:22:29 GMT -6
my wife loves football. In fact our first date was on a Friday night when I was going to evaluate some local high school players then out for supper. I have made sure my wife is involved with some of the things we do with our program. She organizes the post game coaches parties, pre-season picnic, post - season staff appreciation meal, paid staff because she washes our game uniforms, I'm sure I'm forgetting a ton of things my wife does for our program!! We knew going into our marriage what both of our professional careers were all about.
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Post by saintrad on Dec 22, 2007 20:24:45 GMT -6
my wife (of 17 yrs) saw what I was like after taking 2 seasons off early in our marriage... she threatens to divorce me if I DON'T coach football.
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Post by kurtbryan on Dec 22, 2007 20:28:52 GMT -6
FUNNY!
kb
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Post by Shotgun1 on Dec 22, 2007 20:52:58 GMT -6
During the season I make sure I tell her whatever dinner she made and I had to reheat or eat for lunch the next day was excellent. Then I have to make sure we have sex every night. That really keeps a woman happy!
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 22, 2007 20:58:44 GMT -6
... Then I have to make sure we have sex every night. ... You aren't married....
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Post by saintrad on Dec 22, 2007 21:05:05 GMT -6
... Then I have to make sure we have sex every night. ... You aren't married.... now that is FUNNY ;D
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Post by spos21ram on Dec 22, 2007 21:07:22 GMT -6
also men's softball takes up alot of time in the spring and summer. Spos21Ram I DO NOT mean this as an attack on you, at all. But IMO, once a dedicated football coach is married, this is something that a coach can give up to spend more time with wife and kids. To each is his own. Softball is very very close to importance to football for me. I'm not talking about your average fool around beer league. I'm talking about serious softball traveling all around the country. Once I get older I'm sure my priorities will change a little bit but right now If a girlfriend asked me to chose her or softball, I'd say cya later
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Post by bulldogoption on Dec 22, 2007 21:07:39 GMT -6
I will just reiterate what some folks have said already. (HC point of view)
TRY to get home when I can. Not dawdle and talk. Not always good at that, but I try.
I don't do a whole lot of other stuff. Don't go "out" on weekends to bars or hang out with the guys. I CHOOSE to spend my time with my wife and children. I don't want to be anywhere else.
I'm not sure its possible to keep wives totally happy DURING the season. You are simply gone so much and there is always something that surprises you that eats up your time. Need to have an understanding wife who believes that the time you spend is necessary. If they don't understand this then a couple will have big problems, IMO.
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Post by tog on Dec 22, 2007 21:09:21 GMT -6
1. How do you keep your wife/girlfriend totally happy during football season? i just try to make mine not look like this i usually fail so my plan is to put these motivational posters all over the house until she realizes how cool i am
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Post by tog on Dec 22, 2007 21:19:48 GMT -6
but really my here is my wife and now the real answer? i try to include her in all my shenanigans and i participate in her's too
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2007 21:28:05 GMT -6
My answer is easy--she's a coach too though she's at a much smaller school (mine is 2,300, hers is about 80). Volleyball takes time and as head coach she's pretty busy too.
But when the season is over we relax and spend a great deal of time making up for the season. We always take a December trip, this year we're going to a clinic with football and volleyball in February.
And she's pretty good about all of it.
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Post by dubber on Dec 22, 2007 21:42:20 GMT -6
... Then I have to make sure we have sex every night. ... You aren't married.... That is the funniest thing on this board in a month....easily My fiancee loves football.............that helps I do think (along with other coaches) there is room for two things during season: Family and Football Hey, your a husband/father now, your "nights out" SHOULD be sparing By the way, ever notice all the things I want/need begin with "F"? In no order: 1-food 2-family 3-friends 4-football 5-faith 6-fitness 7-uh, yeah, that one
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Post by coachwoody on Dec 22, 2007 22:18:22 GMT -6
My wife is awesome when it comes to coaching football. She don't complain because in her opinion she would rather have me coaching football than running the roads. She said at least I'm not going to get into trouble coaching football. She attends everything and brings the kids, so that I have some time with them. She tollerates all my obssesive habits when it comes to football; TV, Video games, and constantly writing things down on notebooks when I get new ideas. She keeps supplied with pencils and notebooks, never complaing. I guess instead of you adjusting to them, they need to adjust to you.
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 22, 2007 22:21:23 GMT -6
... I guess instead of you adjusting to them, they need to adjust to you. Probably a little of both. It is a give and take. "Trade" this for that, etc. When only one side makes all the concessions, eventually a "revolt" may happen ... lol
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Post by kurtbryan on Dec 22, 2007 22:53:12 GMT -6
For those of you that take your Wife or Girlfriend to a clinic with you, what do the ladies like to do while you are in sessions?
KB
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 22, 2007 22:55:29 GMT -6
For those of you that take your Wife or Girlfriend to a clinic with you, what do the ladies like to do while you are in sessions? KB shop what else?
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Post by jhanawa on Dec 22, 2007 22:58:27 GMT -6
Tog, Herky is going to hurt you!
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Dec 22, 2007 23:10:55 GMT -6
so how many of you have dinners for the staff so that the family can be involved? what other activities do you do as a staff to "include the wife/gf?
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