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Post by tog on Apr 26, 2013 5:29:34 GMT -6
The shrink: The man who knows just which buttons to hit for every single individual in order to have them where you want them to be all coaches are shrinks
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Post by jgordon1 on Apr 26, 2013 5:45:23 GMT -6
I think every coach needs to have a Frosh HC that loves coaching Frosh, buys into the program and WANTS to run your stuff...Helps on the weekends but doesn't want your job...you don't have to worry that he is MF'ing kids , the kids love him and he gets the job done
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Post by rsmith627 on Apr 26, 2013 6:07:32 GMT -6
You have to have the coach that always has something funny to say and tells jokes. When people say things to him he always has an awesome comeback especially parents. This is me.
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Post by utchuckd on Apr 26, 2013 7:45:07 GMT -6
it's good to have a bob the builder guy someone that can improvise and then actually build useful things with their carpentry skills and toolkit stuff from helmet racks to water cooler holders to sled "fixings" We had an OL coach who was a diesel mechanic. He decided our 5 man sled wasn't big enough so he broke out his welder and some steel and fabricated 2 more stations for it. A 7 man Mod Sled is a big mf.
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Post by dbcoach19 on Apr 26, 2013 10:18:58 GMT -6
I think a new type of coach thats been coming around is the "internet coach". We have a guy that just googles the hell out of all of our opponents. He finds stats, videos, interviews, etc on everyone and everything. He found a coaches twitter account and we knew the teams starting QB was going to be out during our game. Those guys can find great info.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 11:44:55 GMT -6
I think a new type of coach thats been coming around is the "internet coach". We have a guy that just googles the hell out of all of our opponents. He finds stats, videos, interviews, etc on everyone and everything. He found a coaches twitter account and we knew the teams starting QB was going to be out during our game. Those guys can find great info. Google really is a powerful thing. Then you have the coaches who don't even know how to turn on a computer...
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Post by coachmitts on Apr 26, 2013 12:37:37 GMT -6
I have yet to read about the old timer who knows everything and won't take any suggestions because he knows everything... Ya know, the grandpa Moses coach.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 12:44:51 GMT -6
I have yet to read about the old timer who knows everything and won't take any suggestions because he knows everything... Ya know, the grandpa Moses coach. I work for two of those. But this is coaches every staff needs, not coaches every staff has
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Post by joris85 on Apr 26, 2013 13:03:17 GMT -6
The shrink: The man who knows just which buttons to hit for every single individual in order to have them where you want them to be all coaches are shrinks I hear you, that's a big part of coaching, especially at the youth level. What I'm trying to say is some guys are just great with it, they can just see from day one how to handle any kid in any situation. Ofcourse any coach should think about how to say certain things to certain kids, but those guys are great at it and can be a great asset in your staff. I think they're rare.
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Post by coachmitts on Apr 26, 2013 13:04:19 GMT -6
I have yet to read about the old timer who knows everything and won't take any suggestions because he knows everything... Ya know, the grandpa Moses coach. I work for two of those. But this is coaches every staff needs, not coaches every staff has Very true!
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Post by tog on Apr 26, 2013 13:15:50 GMT -6
old coaches that know everything should know to listen to suggestions
they just don't have to follow them if they are stupid
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Post by Chris Clement on Apr 26, 2013 16:04:06 GMT -6
I built a spreadsheet and now the HC thinks I'm a wizard.
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Post by 33coach on Apr 26, 2013 16:52:36 GMT -6
I built a spreadsheet and now the HC thinks I'm a wizard. blow his mind with some adding or averaging functions
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Post by Chris Clement on Apr 26, 2013 17:15:41 GMT -6
I did exactly that. I've revolutionized his approach to recruiting in an afternoon.
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Post by coachmitts on Apr 26, 2013 17:42:02 GMT -6
I built a spreadsheet and now the HC thinks I'm a wizard. That's amazing!!! GENIUS!!! I get the same reaction if I change the values in hudl. It's amazing
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Post by Chris Clement on Apr 26, 2013 17:43:55 GMT -6
Now, you must understand, he doesn't think I'm a wizard like "Oh that Chris, he's a real techno-whiz." Nono, he means "What black magic hath you wrought upon us, wizard?"
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Post by coachmitts on Apr 26, 2013 18:08:02 GMT -6
Now, you must understand, he doesn't think I'm a wizard like "Oh that Chris, he's a real techno-whiz." Nono, he means "What black magic hath you wrought upon us, wizard?" Is he a grandpa Moses coach?
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Post by wingtol on Apr 26, 2013 18:25:57 GMT -6
1. Maybe you should listen - but you won't. You'll find a girl, she will be special, unlike any other yada yada yada and you'll trade in "do what ever you want any time you want" for "can't make it tonight guys" or "hey honey, we are going to the bar...no..I won't be out too late...I'm sorry, the whole staff is going...the HC wants us all to be there...I'm sorry...I'll just have one or two...OK...I'll be home by 9." Get home at 11 - "I'm sorry honey, we got to talking and lost track of time...I know it happens all the time, I'm sorry, I'll make it up to you...it won't happen again." There will be guys on here who will say "not my girl, she's great, she doesn't care" and that either means a) she doesn't want his raggedy a$$ at home or b) he actually found a special one, good luck finding one of those for your self. Those are rare, you'll have a better chance of stumbling across a leprechaun riding a unicorn while whackin it to midget clown porn on his iPhone. 2. Oh shut up. First off, lower your standards raise your average. You act like the chick you pick up is going to be Mrs. Vogel eventually. and you never know how the room with 5 dudes will work out unless you try. - quit being selfish. Besides, I promise you, if you pick her up and she goes back to your room...that's not the first time she's done that. And re: the wedding rings - well...if she's happy at home, she won't be interested...and if she is interested...well then perhaps her hubby should pet his cat at home and she wouldn't be at the neighbor's house...just sayin... Just messing with you pvogel. Re: the OP - I think you also need the one guy who is afraid to get in trouble. The guy who will stand up and say "we probably shouldn't park the school van at the strip club" or "no dude, don't do that" or "guys we should probably get going" **Now you may not listen to him, but at least there is a guy trying. I also think you need the one coach who you can blame everything on when you get home. "I'm sorry honey, but DC had drank too much and was going to Perkins. I didn't want to go to perkins at 3:00 am but I didn't want him to be driving." - regardless of how true it is. You may have been the one who wanted to hit perkins when the bar closed, that's fine, you need a guy who will take the fall for you. I'm single...my ex wife doesn't care and if my girlfriend cares...well that's when she learns the true meaning of expendable. The previous post was written by a 43 year old single football coach, so pvogel - even though you may be younger, I'm that guy on staff too. Except for #3, I'm the DC. But geezzz...I don't want a bunch of choir boys playing defense, as a young coach I was told by a much older coach once "argue X's and O's all you want boys, give me 11 whiskey drinkers and p***y lickers and I'll show you a great defense." - and hey...sometimes you gotta lead by example. Epic post. I think you need the guy who ISN'T afraid to get in trouble...aka...the "I don't give a s**t I'll go tell the AD how dumb this is" or "I'll tell Mr. Soandso why his kid isn't playing much"
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Post by Chris Clement on Apr 26, 2013 19:19:55 GMT -6
Now, you must understand, he doesn't think I'm a wizard like "Oh that Chris, he's a real techno-whiz." Nono, he means "What black magic hath you wrought upon us, wizard?" Is he a grandpa Moses coach? He's 63 and quantifies players by saying "His speed reminds me of XXX and his moves are like YYY's."
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Post by coachmitts on Apr 26, 2013 19:46:48 GMT -6
Is he a grandpa Moses coach? He's 63 and quantifies players by saying "His speed reminds me of XXX and his moves are like YYY's." Yikes! That makes sense why he thinks your dark arts wizard.
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Post by Chris Clement on Apr 26, 2013 20:09:07 GMT -6
Great football guy, connects with people and all that, but technology is not so much his thing.
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Post by calicoachh on Apr 26, 2013 22:30:00 GMT -6
What about the old cranky bastard coach? Every staff needs the been there done that seen everything guy who is just crusty and awrnery.
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Post by mariner42 on Apr 27, 2013 11:13:44 GMT -6
While I don't actually want to be this guy, I have come to appreciate the "Football Degenerate" type coach. He's the guy who: --Reads everything Brophy and Smartfootball have ever written. --Went to the COOL Clinic as a WR coach. --Has only one app on his iPhone: HUDL. --Thanks you when you ask him to wash the game pants. --Actually learned the schemes for the special teams he isn't involved with. --Comes early, stays WAYYY late, and asks great questions along the way. --Calls you at 6:15am on Saturday wondering why Friday's film isn't uploaded yet and then you realize you just forgot to share it with the coaching staff and have to get out of bed to fix that before he calls back at 6:30. --Missed practice for a funeral, then apologizes to the team for lacking commitment. He's clearly got a screw loose, but he's a great addition to your program. I've worked with a former HC (with an NFL QB step-son) who was happy just to be an assistant OL coach. IT WAS AWESOME. Great stories, great knowledge, just an awesome experience, I wish I could've coached with him for a decade. pvogel, I've been through pretty much that whole list. It's so tough being us.
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Post by jgordon1 on Apr 27, 2013 14:41:49 GMT -6
Forgot this one: I had a guy that actually knew how to fit helmets and shoulder pads and not just throw them at kids (like I used to do)...took a while but it was worth it..every staff needs that guy
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Post by fantom on Apr 27, 2013 15:05:41 GMT -6
The Sweet Talker. Knows exactly who to talk to and what to say to smooth over or grease the wheels for any situation. Administrators, teachers, custodians, cafeteria managers, office personnel, or parents- he has them eating out of his hand. During fundraising he knows who has and is willing to give up some cash. Youth coaches can't wait to tell him about their upcoming stud. The down side: tends to be less that encyclopedic in his knowledge of X's and O's and scouting with him is a PITA since he glad-hands everybody in the stadium on his way to his seat.
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Post by jg78 on Apr 27, 2013 16:56:45 GMT -6
There are a lot of different skills and personalities you need on a coaching staff, but the one trait they should all share is loyalty to the HC and each other.
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Post by bluboy on Apr 27, 2013 16:59:41 GMT -6
scouting with him is a PITA since he glad-hands everybody in the stadium on his way to his seat. We call this kind of guy THE MAYOR. He knows everybody, no matter where we are, and talks to everyone he knows, especially on his way to his seat when scouting. By the way, he usually gets there late because he's kissing babies and shakin' hands.
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Post by blb on Apr 27, 2013 17:01:21 GMT -6
I don't know about "every" staff but I'd like a Molly McGrath on ours...
But then that's what the wife is for.
And if we had a Molly, probably wouldn't have the wife.
Never mind.
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Post by airman on Apr 27, 2013 17:19:46 GMT -6
The pessimistic coach. This way you plan for all the worst case scenarios and hope for the best.
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Post by hammer66 on Apr 30, 2013 8:03:21 GMT -6
I used to be the COMEDIAN. You know the coach who while the kids got a water break went to the DC and said wow that period was long and pretended that I did Take offs for 40 mins. While the DC was ready to kill me. Now I am the DC and I have five COMEDIANS coaching with me. Payback truly is a *****.
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