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Post by fatboy04 on Dec 19, 2012 11:10:53 GMT -6
Hey men. Contemplating taking my teacher retirement this spring or next. Curious about coaching somewhere overseas. No family to worry about. Could probably be ok with living expenses (on top of my retirement checks) About ready to get out of the public schools, but still think i have some coaching left in me...LOL.
Do any of y'all know details about this International Organization? How difficult is it to break in? any advice or info is welcomed.
Thanks
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Post by calkayne on Dec 19, 2012 11:16:35 GMT -6
europlayers.com
this is a service where you can log in andput yourself on the meatmarket for European Teams.
You can also try the IFAF site which is the governing body for all overseason Football.
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Post by fatboy04 on Dec 19, 2012 13:00:17 GMT -6
Thank you, Sir.
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Post by realdawg on Dec 19, 2012 13:16:56 GMT -6
There was a post on footballscoop.com about a team in Sweden looking for a coach a couple days ago. Might check that out.
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Post by btex0127 on Dec 19, 2012 21:13:51 GMT -6
I did this for 3 years in Germany and Italy. I also know the owner of europlayers and the coaches in karlstadt sweden. feel free to contact me
btex127@yahoo.com
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Post by julien on Dec 20, 2012 11:09:07 GMT -6
Feel free to contact me too.
I'm a born and bred Euro Coach.
If I can help, let me know.
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Post by M4 on Dec 20, 2012 11:38:04 GMT -6
Euro players is great my brother found a great team and was in Germany for 2 years playing/coaching. Loved it, got treated like a celeb!
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Post by CoachP on Dec 20, 2012 12:34:04 GMT -6
Im a coach over here in the UK - feel free to get in touch!
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Post by kylem56 on Dec 25, 2012 21:38:24 GMT -6
is there anyone who has had success with europlayers? Coaching overseas is something that intrigues me but that website seems pretty inpersonal. Would it be better to contact coaches/owners directly?
thanks
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Post by scb12 on Dec 25, 2012 22:23:11 GMT -6
I've been playing/coaching in Europe for eight years now. Euro players is the way to go 100%.
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Post by julien on Dec 26, 2012 5:10:37 GMT -6
I agree with Stan: Europlayers is the way to go... but mostly because it's the only way to go... There's no other website in the business.
I also agree with Kyle, it's impersonal. You must be proactive and reach out people or teams and make it more personal.
Kyle, I'll be glad to help you.
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Post by austinator on Dec 26, 2012 9:55:47 GMT -6
What is the football environment like over in Europe for American football? Is it high school age? College? Professional? All of the above?
What is the talent level? Schemes?
Former QB of a nearby college (FBS) went over to Europe and played for the Parma Panthers. He was an average FBS QB would was roughly 5'11 and 200 pounds, if I remember right but went off over there. He threw for 27 TD and only 3 INT...
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Post by msalazar51 on Dec 26, 2012 10:59:28 GMT -6
I started coaching in England back in 1984, coached and played until 1988. I have maintained contact since. In fact the team traveled to Las Vegas and played Team USA. Did well lost 15 - 7 against an American team. The team is called the Farnham Knights. They have a great website, www.farnhamknights.com/ give them a call. It was a lot of fun coaching and playing there. |
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Post by btex0127 on Dec 26, 2012 12:57:27 GMT -6
What is the football environment like over in Europe for American football? Is it high school age? College? Professional? All of the above? What is the talent level? Schemes? Former QB of a nearby college (FBS) went over to Europe and played for the Parma Panthers. He was an average FBS QB would was roughly 5'11 and 200 pounds, if I remember right but went off over there. He threw for 27 TD and only 3 INT... Send me email I will tell you the good and bad. I still help players going over, this way they do not pay agents. |
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Post by Footballguy on Dec 26, 2012 17:04:34 GMT -6
Does anyone know if there would also be teaching positions for my wife and I, or if they are strictly coaching? We are both credentialed teachers in California. I would appreciate any input.
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msalazar51
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Post by msalazar51 on Dec 26, 2012 17:37:24 GMT -6
Coaching football in Europe is not a high school gig. There are teaching positions, however, those are Euro jobs, not Ex-Patriot positions. Teaching jobs would be with the DoD or an "American" school. Two very different jobs. The Ex-Pat job would never have football as part of the position. DoD positions are almost gone these days.
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Post by btex0127 on Dec 26, 2012 19:09:27 GMT -6
Just football, however my Texas teaching cert. was used there and I taught in a school there. They call it. Pro league but it is really semi pro. My wife was writing a book so it all worked out.
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Post by davecisar on Dec 26, 2012 19:19:47 GMT -6
I just got back from Germany, did a coaches clinic there for HS coaches
Great guys, really want to get better
Will be going back in November to coach an All Star game
Tney know a lot more than I expected
Almost all of them running an NFL like offense
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Post by btex0127 on Dec 26, 2012 19:27:03 GMT -6
What part were you in?
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Post by julien on Dec 27, 2012 2:15:24 GMT -6
Euroball: 1. Non-Scholastic Environment 2. Getting a teaching job is difficult but not impossible 3. Salary vary from countries, leagues, divisons 4. Level of play vary from country to country. Top 3 are: Austria, Germany, France. IMO, the best Euroteams would compete with the bottom of NCAA D3. 5. Age groups: Under 13, Under 16, Under 19, Senior (19+ years old) 6. There's spring season and Winter season. Depends on the country. Northern Europe plays during the spring/Summer, Southern Europe during Winter/Spring 7. What can you expect: Salary? See #3. A flat or room to share with furnitures, utilities paid and high speed internet. A car or a public transportation pass. Food or free meals at a local restaurant. Insurance. Round trip ticket. Team apparel. EVERYTHING IS NEGOCIABLE. But it's not about the money for you guys. More about the lifetime experience, traveling opportunities. 8. What's expected from you? To be professional. To teach the coach as much as the kids. To schow a genuine interested to the local culture. 9. Cons Practice facilities aren't great. Level of play within the team could be very different. Lack of lifting program. Because it's a non scholstic environment players can't make it at every practice. Language barrier. In the South of Europe it could be a concern if you only speak English 10. Pros Kids play with tremendous PASSION. Kids WANT to learn from an American Coach (The fact that you coach in English makes you smarter  ) You could REALLY make a difference in a program and in Euro kids life if you want to. Life in Europe. Travelling in europe. Lifetime experience. 11. Scheme wise, there's an awfull lot of Spread teams here too! In the French Top 20, you'll find a couple of Wing-T teams, a couple of Pro style offense and only one Flexbone team. No double wing, no splitback veer, very few true option team, no a lot of fly team anymore (I run the fly quite a bit!)... FYI: the game is growing fast in Europe. Kids now watch the first European players play in NCAA (A French in Sioux Falls, D2, a German played great for FSU this year) or even NFL (Sebastien VOLMER, Patriots OL is German). There's a bunch of French players in CIS Teams (Canadian College football) and Canadian HS now... For the first time, La Courneuve FLASH (French Powerhouse near Paris) has sent 5 kids to US HS... I guess, Austrian, German or Italian teenagers have the same dream. One last thing: the coaching level is raising here as Dave said. Mostly because of the internet -- Thanks Coach Huey, Spreadattack, Brophy, Deuce, Darin Slack and all of you -- and because some of us cross the pond from time to time to learn as much as we can. AGAIN FEEL FREE TO REACH ME IF YOU WANT TO COACH IN EUROPE! |
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Post by kad02002 on Dec 27, 2012 2:36:18 GMT -6
I'm a coach in Europe now. Europlayers is great. If you have a particular location in mind, you should also use Europlayers or other Internet searching to find teams, then email them all. This is how I got my job...they won't always come knocking and they may not think they want to pay a coach until they see your resume and excitement about the proposition.
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Post by julien on Dec 27, 2012 5:16:43 GMT -6
Kad,
Where are you coaching in Europe?
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Post by pb77 on Dec 27, 2012 7:59:26 GMT -6
Just finished a two-year stint in Germany and I agree with most of what everyone is saying, but I think Julien said it, be proactive, almost every country has a league website. Germany is gfl.info from there you will see all the teams that are a part of the league and their team websites, go onto those websites and email the team owner/president.
AFCA also will have an occasional job posting.
The best advice I would give anybody is....
1) keep an open mind, it's a bit different then what you are use to in the U.S. in regards to practice, practice habits, game day, etc.
2) Do not expect to get rich, some countries are better then others in regard to salary but it isn't a high paying deal.
3) Embrace the opportunity! I've been in coaching for almost 15 years and these last two were by far some of the best seasons from a personal/professional standpoint.
Good Luck
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Post by btex0127 on Dec 27, 2012 11:06:53 GMT -6
Doing it with kids and a family can be very hard. But we had a a blast for about 3 years. Plus my kids now speak 4 languages. If you go to Germany and are looking at teaching also I can help some. A Texas teaching certificate is taken in about half their states.
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Post by julien on Dec 28, 2012 0:28:03 GMT -6
Just finished a two-year stint in Germany and I agree with most of what everyone is saying, but I think Julien said it, be proactive, almost every country has a league website. Germany is gfl.info from there you will see all the teams that are a part of the league and their team websites, go onto those websites and email the team owner/president. AFCA also will have an occasional job posting. The best advice I would give anybody is.... 1) keep an open mind, it's a bit different then what you are use to in the U.S. in regards to practice, practice habits, game day, etc. 2) Do not expect to get rich, some countries are better then others in regard to salary but it isn't a high paying deal. 3) Embrace the opportunity! I've been in coaching for almost 15 years and these last two were by far some of the best seasons from a personal/professional standpoint. Good Luck Visit www.coachingforpizza.blogspot.com to get what pb77 means when he said: "keep an open mind". Coach Contreras is a veteran in Europe. Actually, he's our HC this season and from my point of view he has understand what football is all about here! Love the man! |
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Post by btex0127 on Dec 28, 2012 9:55:01 GMT -6
George is a good one to talk too, I speak to him a lot still.
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Post by kad02002 on Dec 28, 2012 14:56:44 GMT -6
Hi julien, I'm coaching in Denmark, and enjoying the experience!
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Post by fballcoachg on Dec 28, 2012 16:30:16 GMT -6
Is it something you can make a living off of when you include any perks? If not, do they help you find additional employment?
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Post by kad02002 on Dec 28, 2012 18:11:22 GMT -6
Is it something you can make a living off of when you include any perks? If not, do they help you find additional employment? It probably depends on the country. In my situation, the country required I be paid a certain amount by the club in order to have the work permit. This is an amount big enough to live on, but nothing more. The work permit does not allow you to work anywhere other than for sponsors of the club (we didn't have any). So you are kind of stuck not making much. This may be different from country to country. Most clubs over here aren't overflowing with money, from what I can tell. It worked great in my situation, as it allowed me to live with my Danish girlfriend, who is now my wife, and I now have a more permanent residence permit that allows me to find additional employment. So I think it depends what you are after. If you want great coaching and life experience, it is hard to beat going the international route. If you want to make serious money from coaching over here, you'll most likely be disappointed. Just my two cents and I may be wrong about certain situations. |
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Post by btex0127 on Dec 29, 2012 10:39:21 GMT -6
It all depends on how you want to live. With family of four we were comfortable, but I also worked at a berufschule. I had a qb who played for me, he lives in Denmark though he will play in other countries.
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