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Post by calkayne on Dec 31, 2012 7:59:39 GMT -6
It all depends on where you go and what credentials you have.
I know of some coaches who could demand 5000€ per month! I also know many more that dont get paid at all. Several coaches come out for a short gig and 20years later go back home.
As far as teaching certs, there are "international schools" which base their classes on English, these schools are all around Europe.
European Coaching is better for younger singles and retired singles couples imo.
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Post by btex0127 on Dec 31, 2012 13:06:23 GMT -6
I do not mean to argue but no one in Europe gets 5000 a month. The highest paid coach gets 3500, no apartment. He gets this through several sponsors he brought in and gets a % of them. Which is common.
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Post by kylem56 on Dec 31, 2012 13:36:19 GMT -6
I just finished updating my profile and spent the last couple days contacting coaches. Thanks to Julien for all the help
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Post by btex0127 on Dec 31, 2012 13:37:43 GMT -6
If you need help just ask. I know pretty much everyone over there.
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Post by calkayne on Jan 2, 2013 5:15:28 GMT -6
I do not mean to argue but no one in Europe gets 5000 a month. The highest paid coach gets 3500, no apartment. He gets this through several sponsors he brought in and gets a % of them. Which is common. ok...
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Post by steelbuns on Jan 2, 2013 7:42:48 GMT -6
Coach Cisar was in Bochum, speaking at a clinic chaired by the states Football Association (American Football und Cheerleading Verband Nordrhein Westfalen). I was attending that convention, thanks a bunch Coach Cisar btw. Cheers Marc
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Post by Chris Clement on Jan 2, 2013 12:41:56 GMT -6
I do not mean to argue but no one in Europe gets 5000 a month. The highest paid coach gets 3500, no apartment. He gets this through several sponsors he brought in and gets a % of them. Which is common. Dollars or euros? And how does that vary by nation? Cost if living is much higher in France, say, than Romania.
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Post by btex0127 on Jan 2, 2013 12:44:36 GMT -6
It is euros, and this coach is in Austria, top five place. Calanda pays the most of any place on the whole. Most places pay 2000 or less with avg around 1200
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Post by jml on Jan 2, 2013 14:52:29 GMT -6
How much of a language barrier is there? I am recently out of a job and if I found the right job over there I would leave in a week. However I languages is my weak point. I would try to learn as quickly as possible, but I had two years of German in HS and got D's. A's in every other class but just don't pick up languages well.
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Post by btex0127 on Jan 2, 2013 14:55:51 GMT -6
In France and south Italy it can be an issue. Else where not really a problem. I was in north Germany no issues, and in north Italy, again no issues. Did clinics in Sweden, Norway, Denmark, holland and had no issues.
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Post by btex0127 on Jan 2, 2013 19:26:00 GMT -6
I have connections to the president of a GFL 2 team in Hamburg. Season is march to October. You can message me if interested.
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Post by julien on Jan 3, 2013 1:15:07 GMT -6
It is euros, and this coach is in Austria, top five place. Calanda pays the most of any place on the whole. Most places pay 2000 or less with avg around 1200 Calanda is a mercenary team. Lots of money, no youth programs, no local players. We'll see how things will go for them with the new EFAF rules on import players...
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Post by julien on Jan 3, 2013 1:19:01 GMT -6
Again, the ammount of money vary from country to country.
There's a lot of money in Austria right now but do not think you can get that in other countries.
Plus, top salary go to top coach. I mean, there's a bunch of former NFL coaches and/or NCAA coaches and even NFL Europe coaches on the european sidelines now.
Jim Criner former Boise State HC was coaching in France last season for an example.
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Post by btex0127 on Jan 3, 2013 1:29:06 GMT -6
I was in Italy last year. We had a lot of div 1 coaches, two ex- nfl, plus several lower colleges. It was fun. I coached opposite joe avezzano in his last game.
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Post by calkayne on Jan 3, 2013 3:06:10 GMT -6
How much of a language barrier is there? I am recently out of a job and if I found the right job over there I would leave in a week. However I languages is my weak point. I would try to learn as quickly as possible, but I had two years of German in HS and got D's. A's in every other class but just don't pick up languages well. There are plenty of coaches that only come over for the season. They know no german apart from ordering a beer and a bratwurst and they do just fine. As far as work goes, getting a work permit and a job teaching english at a vocational school is probably the most common form of income support. There are some teams that are supported by a private company where you may be doing some sort of un or semiskilled work. You wont make loads of money but you will cover your expenses.
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Post by Fishbone on Jan 3, 2013 5:22:01 GMT -6
It is euros, and this coach is in Austria, top five place. Calanda pays the most of any place on the whole. Most places pay 2000 or less with avg around 1200 Calanda is a mercenary team. Lots of money, no youth programs, no local players. We'll see how things will go for them with the new EFAF rules on import players... Guy i know plays for Calanda. Nice to have local brewery backing you up big time. I think that at the moment they have 3 USA imports and 6 dual passport holders. I don't think that EFAF can do anything about those dual passport guys.
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Post by btex0127 on Jan 3, 2013 11:36:56 GMT -6
Walter in calanda has a ton of money. He not only has the mports a dual, but gets his pick of the GFL and AFL. EFAF is looking into limiting the dual guys due to them. I look for that to happen this year.
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Post by julien on Jan 3, 2013 11:52:58 GMT -6
Calanda is a mercenary team. Lots of money, no youth programs, no local players. We'll see how things will go for them with the new EFAF rules on import players... Guy i know plays for Calanda. Nice to have local brewery backing you up big time. I think that at the moment they have 3 USA imports and 6 dual passport holders. I don't think that EFAF can do anything about those dual passport guys. There were 28 non local players on the roster last season. 25 had dual citizenships but played in NCAA. They were damn good but make our game looks like a f!ck!ng soccer team. EFAF has to and hopefully will change the rules. Call it Calanda Rule.
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Post by kad02002 on Jan 3, 2013 12:37:46 GMT -6
How much of a language barrier is there? I am recently out of a job and if I found the right job over there I would leave in a week. However I languages is my weak point. I would try to learn as quickly as possible, but I had two years of German in HS and got D's. A's in every other class but just don't pick up languages well. American football is...American, and as an American sport most of the players will know the key terms at the least. I'm coaching in Denmark and almost everyone's English is perfect. I can't imagine you'd have many problems. If a team is willing to hire an American coach they know about the language thing already.
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Post by julien on Jan 3, 2013 13:59:49 GMT -6
How much of a language barrier is there? I am recently out of a job and if I found the right job over there I would leave in a week. However I languages is my weak point. I would try to learn as quickly as possible, but I had two years of German in HS and got D's. A's in every other class but just don't pick up languages well. American football is...American, and as an American sport most of the players will know the key terms at the least. I'm coaching in Denmark and almost everyone's English is perfect. I can't imagine you'd have many problems. If a team is willing to hire an American coach they know about the language thing already. Langage could be an issue in southern Europe where people do not speak good English, mostly with thé youth teams.
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Post by Fishbone on Jan 3, 2013 19:13:21 GMT -6
Guy i know plays for Calanda. Nice to have local brewery backing you up big time. I think that at the moment they have 3 USA imports and 6 dual passport holders. I don't think that EFAF can do anything about those dual passport guys. There were 28 non local players on the roster last season. 25 had dual citizenships but played in NCAA. They were {censored} good but make our game looks like a f!ck!ng soccer team. EFAF has to and hopefully will change the rules. Call it Calanda Rule. I think that EFAF hands are tied on dual passport matter because of the Bosman-rule but i can be wrong about it.
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Post by julien on Jan 4, 2013 0:32:04 GMT -6
There were 28 non local players on the roster last season. 25 had dual citizenships but played in NCAA. They were {censored} good but make our game looks like a f!ck!ng soccer team. EFAF has to and hopefully will change the rules. Call it Calanda Rule. I think that EFAF hands are tied on dual passport matter because of the Bosman-rule but i can be wrong about it. Bosman Rule apply to professional sports only, I guess.
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Post by btex0127 on Jan 4, 2013 1:11:46 GMT -6
no it does not apply
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Post by coachhusrey on Jan 10, 2013 2:42:20 GMT -6
This will be my 7th year coaching in Europe (I also coached in India) I have coached in 5 different countries. Europlayers.com is the only way to go. I know the owner of the site and he does a great job and is always in the know of what is going on over there. I love coaching in Europe because you get to travel for free, live for free, and you get some spending cash to travel to other places. In the off times ie summer breaks, weeks off, ect I travel to other places. This last season I was in Norway and after the season I spent 2 months backpacking through Eastern Europe before I headed home to visit family.
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Post by spoonie on Jan 10, 2013 4:36:21 GMT -6
I coach in the UK and while there's not the same infrastructure and financial support that you'll find in somewhere like German and Austria (those are unquestionably the two powerhouses of Euro football), you have the advantage of no language barrier and there are plenty of teams who would help you find part time work to support your time over here. The youth (5v5 14-16), junior (11v11 17-19) and senior leagues run through the summer, with pre-season typically starting now and the first games in mid April. BritBowl happens in September. The University league runs through the winter, with a very short pre-season and games from Nov-March, with the National Championships on 23 March.
If anyone is keen on coaching in the UK, feel free to get in touch and I can hook you up with teams all over the country.
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Post by Chris Clement on Jan 10, 2013 14:20:22 GMT -6
Does a dual passport help you anywhere as a coach or just as a player?
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Post by julien on Jan 10, 2013 14:42:27 GMT -6
Sure, it definitly helps.
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Post by calkayne on Jan 11, 2013 3:50:35 GMT -6
Does a dual passport help you anywhere as a coach or just as a player? It is optimal. You can take all the advantages of a local without being one Social Security, Subsidies, Medical Care, no work permit required etc.
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Post by Chris Clement on Jan 11, 2013 11:32:31 GMT -6
Schwing! Retirement here I come! Of course, that assumes the EU doesn't crater by then.
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Post by coacheurope on Jan 23, 2013 11:38:20 GMT -6
To give you a feeling for the level of play here: German Bowl 2012A lot of coverage before, during and after the game. 7 minutes into the video the actual game footage starts (with German commentary). Those were the two dominating teams in Germany last year. You can distinguish the American imports by an A on their helmet and jersey. Note: That is a single event for the GFL, hence the high number of attendance (11,000). If you want to see a regular gameday, click on the videos listed on the right. Impressions from the Polish championship game: Super Final 2012They shocked everyone in Europe with that game, being able to organize such an event. However, we gotta see whether that carries over into the next season. That's a normal gameday in Poland: Devils Wroclaw - Warsaw EaglesAustrian powerhouse Swarco Raiders Tirol: AFL week 3 vs Danube DragonsAnd if you are up for some exotic places to stay, try South-East Europe: CEFL Semifinals 2012 Beograd - BudapestI hope you got an impression of the way we do. ;-)
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