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Post by coachtut on Aug 12, 2012 22:35:49 GMT -6
Any of you guys experience this?
I am curious to hear some of your answers about what other teams have done to try to get in your heads or things you have done to get to the other team.
I am thinking of things along the lines of the "haka" preformed while standing on the 40 looking at the other team.
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Post by coachwilliams2 on Aug 13, 2012 8:56:46 GMT -6
We were playing the #4 team in the state in the first round of the playoffs when I was in High School.
It had been raining all week and they we rolling and jumping in the mud etc.
We beat them 17-0...Intemidation means nothing. Let the pads talk.
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Post by fantom on Aug 13, 2012 9:47:56 GMT -6
That intimidation stuff can backfire (for best results view the video from the 1:40 point on).
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Post by fballcoachg on Aug 13, 2012 10:37:55 GMT -6
Better make sure you are BA and can back it up.
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Post by coachrobpsl on Aug 13, 2012 10:39:07 GMT -6
We have done just the opposite before. We have ran pass plays to kids why are slow and can't catch with a poor passer at warm ups. We did this because we noticed the other team was watching us like a hawk as they were weighing in(Pop Warner). Our rep at the weigh ins said the opposing players were laughing at us and bragging how badly they were going to beat us. Our goal was to instill a sense of over confidence in the other team. They did not take us seriously and we won 39-6. We would of won anyway but it was over quick and I do believe this tactic helped.
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Post by coachtut on Aug 13, 2012 10:57:18 GMT -6
Better make sure you are BA and can back it up. Some of you guys are ASSuming that I want my team to intimidate the other teams. You know what happens when you ASSume  I was just curious if you guys have ever expierienced it. |
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Post by coachtut on Aug 13, 2012 10:59:55 GMT -6
Fantom that was really, really funny.
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Post by ndestefano on Aug 13, 2012 15:10:55 GMT -6
State Semis - had to drive 2.5 hours to get to the game. When we got there, they didn't even have shoulder pads on. Music BLARING (seriously LOUD) so we could not hear ourselves during warmups. They stood on their 40 and watched us the whole time. We came out in the first quarter with the lead, but they did come back to beat us.
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Post by coachtut on Aug 13, 2012 15:31:45 GMT -6
State Semis - had to drive 2.5 hours to get to the game. When we got there, they didn't even have shoulder pads on. Music BLARING (seriously LOUD) so we could not hear ourselves during warmups. They stood on their 40 and watched us the whole time. We came out in the first quarter with the lead, but they did come back to beat us. Wow. I bet as a coach you had to be thinking, "What the....." |
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Post by fballcoachg on Aug 13, 2012 18:12:27 GMT -6
Better make sure you are BA and can back it up. Some of you guys are ASSuming that I want my team to intimidate the other teams. You know what happens when you ASSume I was just curious if you guys have ever expierienced it. No assumption, just saying, if you are going to make a big scene then you better be able to back it up or else it kind of becomes a joke...New Zealand's Haka wouldn't be cool if they were a 500 rugby team, the Hurricanes or Mike Tyson talking smack wouldn't have resonated if they didn't back it up. |
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Post by Down 'n Out on Aug 13, 2012 18:43:27 GMT -6
I have never really been a part of trying to intimidate the opponent in pregame, I did see something as a player that was intimidating tho.
It was a scrimmage my soph year 3 teams and everyone played everyone. My team and the host team had just finished a regulation quarter and a 15/15 series and we were up to play the other team next and they were running late. When they finially showed up they got off the bus fully dressed(helmets and all), walked out to the numbers on their sideline and got into a huge moshpit! they were just leveling each other! After 30 seconds of that they calmly walked over to their sideline. Craziest thing I ever saw as a player.
didnt really help them that much, we tied them in the scrimmage(they won the 2A state championship in their state that season). They werent just showing off though, they were a Double Tights Power I team and that was their mindset and thats how they played. Most agressive team I ever played against, a bunch of 180lb linemen and they just came after you every play.
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Post by carookie on Aug 13, 2012 19:12:47 GMT -6
I steal this story from a buddy of mine but one of my favorites....
He's the assistant at a midlevel program, they are going to play a relative powerhouse school that has a reputation for being somewhat ghetto. As they are walking out for pre-game warmups a JV assistant coach for the other team is standing just to the side of the tunnel. Apparently this guy is about 6'6" and over 3 bills (a lot of muscle too).
As they approach he starts yelling at the top of his lungs "Hey MuthaF#@*ers are you ready for the thunder? Im talking to you bi@#*es are you ready for this....."and so on.
According to him most of the kids dang near peed themselves; one of them went up to him and asked, "Uhhh, coach can he be talking to us like that?"
They got crushed, although I doubt it would have mattered. Intimidation is just like trash talk, it rarely has any impact on the game, and usually is done more to amp up the person doing it.
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Post by wingtol on Aug 13, 2012 19:42:42 GMT -6
We have played a team in he playoffs the last few years who run to the 50 and scream, holler, while they do jumping jacks. Their coaches even join in. It's a good time to watch especially when we just ignore them and they just fizzle out and walk back to their pre-game.
We played the same team from above in a district title game a few seasons ago. It happen to be the day after Thanksgiving like the district game always is. So this school is an inner-city school and that year they stood at the fifty and yelled "It's black friday mother f**kers! We're gonna show you what it's like!" At us from 2-3 mins as we came on to the field. Was kinda funny.
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Post by newhope on Aug 14, 2012 9:15:29 GMT -6
First of all, you either have class or you don't. All that foolishness is classless.
Secondly, we are only concerned with ourselves, not anything they do. We're there to play, not to BS around and not to pay any attention to what's on the other side of the field.
If they come on my end, then I'll handle it and I can assure you, I won't be intimidated by them---but they may very well be intimidated by me.
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Post by fballcoachg on Aug 14, 2012 18:14:09 GMT -6
We have played a team in he playoffs the last few years who run to the 50 and scream, holler, while they do jumping jacks. Their coaches even join in. It's a good time to watch especially when we just ignore them and they just fizzle out and walk back to their pre-game. We played the same team from above in a district title game a few seasons ago. It happen to be the day after Thanksgiving like the district game always is. So this school is an inner-city school and that year they stood at the fifty and yelled "It's black friday mother f**kers! We're gonna show you what it's like!" At us from 2-3 mins as we came on to the field. Was kinda funny. Haha, I like the "black friday" quote, kind of funny and sounds like something some of our guys would say to each other. I'm with iou guys in that the teams that are big on this are either already good enough that it wouldn't matter anyways or are trying to pump themselves up and wind up pissing off the other team. |
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Post by coachdennis on Aug 15, 2012 14:41:44 GMT -6
My view is that our time is very limited over the course of the week, so limited that I just don't have time to waste on choreographing a pre-game psych job on our opponent. Add to this the fact that it may backfire or flop, and it's just not worth the effort.
You also have to keep in mind the effect it has on your own team. For every kid you fire up, there are two more who are now scared @#$#less thanks to the big show, and are overthinking the game instead of just going out to play. Your psych up guys will find each other just fine, and bang shoulder pads to their heart's content - let's just focus on getting ready to execute well.
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Post by chi5hi on Aug 15, 2012 16:05:23 GMT -6
Can they leap tall buildings and bend steel in their bare hands? Now THAT would be intimidating!
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Post by blb on Aug 15, 2012 16:18:21 GMT -6
One of the best teams I've had never said "Boo" during Pre-Game, just went about their business.
Once the ball was in the air they made a LOT of noise with their pads.
In fact they'd laugh at and make fun of opponents that were chanting or whooping and hollering.
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Post by coachtut on Aug 15, 2012 16:49:25 GMT -6
My view is that our time is very limited over the course of the week, so limited that I just don't have time to waste on choreographing a pre-game psych job on our opponent. Add to this the fact that it may backfire or flop, and it's just not worth the effort. You also have to keep in mind the effect it has on your own team. For every kid you fire up, there are two more who are now scared @#$#less thanks to the big show, and are overthinking the game instead of just going out to play. Your psych up guys will find each other just fine, and bang shoulder pads to their heart's content - let's just focus on getting ready to execute well. This is exactly my philosophy on the subject. Well put coach. |
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Post by coachtut on Aug 15, 2012 16:50:06 GMT -6
One of the best teams I've had never said "Boo" during Pre-Game, just went about their business. Once the ball was in the air they made a LOT of noise with their pads. In fact they'd laugh at and make fun of opponents that were chanting or whooping and hollering. That is exactly what I hope my players would do. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 15, 2012 16:55:41 GMT -6
My Jr. and Sr. years of HS we were in the same district at Peyton Manning. During early Pre game warm ups, (with specialists) I see my buddy at QB throwing fades from our 40 into the end zone. I look down the yardline, and I see Peyton on OUR 40 throwing fades into HIS endzone....
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Post by fantom on Aug 15, 2012 19:50:02 GMT -6
My Jr. and Sr. years of HS we were in the same district at Peyton Manning. During early Pre game warm ups, (with specialists) I see my buddy at QB throwing fades from our 40 into the end zone. I look down the yardline, and I see Peyton on OUR 40 throwing fades into HIS endzone.... Intimidation is a factor in this game but that silly pregame stuff doesn't do it. Something like this does. "Intimidation on film" is a phrase that I've heard and like. When the other guys watch you on film and see you running and hitting that's intimidation. If they've watched film and they can't play but woof a lot that's just whistling past the graveyard. |
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Post by mariner42 on Aug 15, 2012 20:43:36 GMT -6
Stolen from a friend of mine:
Warming up for a game against 2 back team with a BEAST of a FB (225lbs of brutality), my friend looks over at their side innocently. He sees the FB with a coach in front of him trying to push him back and a coach behind him pulling on his jersey hem and the FB is powering through these two like they're barely there. HE was intimidated and he wasn't even playing.
Come 3rd quarter the FB is out of the game after getting drilled by the smallest person on the field (5'3, 135 lb OLB).
I think any organized pre game deal is a waste of time. I couldn't give a damn about winning pregame, it's what comes after that matters. Hell, we can play freeze tag for all I care.
Coachd, that's a fantastic example of intimidation via talent, rather than words. I'm ok with intimidating by how good we are, I'll take that every time vs intimidating with our mouths. To quote Jimmy Johnson, "Show me so loud I can't hear you talk!"
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Post by mhs99 on Aug 15, 2012 21:14:30 GMT -6
Our program has some very tough kids, but the leash is very tight, we play physical, but with class....the only time I ever let our kids loose was when we played a very wealthy, arrogant school who the year before came running down the hill at their place and shiitalked us to death. Hard feelings between our communities; ugly chants and blowups in many sports. Our kids were irate for a whole year. The next year i allowed our RB and TE who were 6'1 200 and 6'3 230 and Greek Adonis-like walk into warm-ups shirtless, helmets and visors on and just stared at their kids for ten minutes. Our student body (many under the "weather" formed a gauntlet and just killed this school as they came into the stadium..ugly. Their kids were ready to go home.
We scored first and our student section chanted "It's all over", it was, we won 44-0
A classic note; the PA announcer played the clip "Hit the Road Jack, and Don't You Come Back" in the 4th quarter and got fired the next day.
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Post by coachtut on Aug 15, 2012 23:39:33 GMT -6
Our program has some very tough kids, but the leash is very tight, we play physical, but with class....the only time I ever let our kids loose was when we played a very wealthy, arrogant school who the year before came running down the hill at their place and shiitalked us to death. Hard feelings between our communities; ugly chants and blowups in many sports. Our kids were irate for a whole year. The next year i allowed our RB and TE who were 6'1 200 and 6'3 230 and Greek Adonis-like walk into warm-ups shirtless, helmets and visors on and just stared at their kids for ten minutes. Our student body (many under the "weather" formed a gauntlet and just killed this school as they came into the stadium..ugly. Their kids were ready to go home. We scored first and our student section chanted "It's all over", it was, we won 44-0 A classic note; the PA announcer played the clip "Hit the Road Jack, and Don't You Come Back" in the 4th quarter and got fired the next day. Best story yet! Especially that last sentence. LOL |
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Post by coachgeorge31 on Aug 16, 2012 0:12:27 GMT -6
My first couple of years coaching I really emphasized being loud during pregame. It was JV so there were a lot of teams that would get intimidated, and acted beat before we even put our uppers on. Recently though, my pregame has gone about 180 degrees the other way. We do about 90% of our pregame at our school before we take the bus ride wherever we're playing (home games 5 minutes away). The first year I actually had visiting coaches call me to make sure they were at the right place for the game. We are almost silent throughout the 10% of the warmup we do at the game field until right before the game when we go through a hitting warmup that has a lot of noise coming from the pads popping.
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Post by spartancoach on Aug 16, 2012 12:31:54 GMT -6
Scouting a team from an upper middle class area that was hosting an inner city team with the reputation for being street tough. During warm ups, the host team played a collection of the cheeziest, redneck country music (I still remember Rhinestone Cowboy blaring over the loudspeakers) you can imagine. Not really intimidating, but it got the opponent's attention.
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Post by fantom on Aug 16, 2012 13:18:16 GMT -6
Scouting a team from an upper middle class area that was hosting an inner city team with the reputation for being street tough. During warm ups, the host team played a collection of the cheeziest, redneck country music (I still remember Rhinestone Cowboy blaring over the loudspeakers) you can imagine. Not really intimidating, but it got the opponent's attention. I'd think that our guys would have been laughing too hard to play football. |
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Post by mattyg2787 on Aug 16, 2012 17:55:38 GMT -6
Only thing I like for pregame is having linemen go through contact stuff right on the 50. Now I mean I let our linemen really smash each other
We then get the "skilled" guys running on air near the endzone.
This has two effects-
1) intimidation- if they are hitting each other that hard how are they going to hit me
2)it makes it a little harder for guys on the ground to watch what the offense does
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Post by rpetrie on Aug 18, 2012 16:58:21 GMT -6
To answer the OP...in my opinion the biggest "intimidation factor" is the crowd...not the team. Despite all we do to teach kids that what matters is between the lines it is the crowd that can unnerve them more quickly than the opponent. When I was in HS a local rival had the mascot "Cougars." One game an assistant brought out a huge bloody piece of meat on a chain and swung it around to syke up the kids. Well they started saying that Cougars Eat Raw Meat. From that game on for the next several years they used that as their slogan "RAW MEAT." Well...they dressed about 60 kids and always had about 3-4000 fans at home games, and at least half that traveled. As they did their pre-game cals there was no counting out. Their coach simply said down...and EVERYONE chanted RAW in unison. When they called up...EVERYONE chanted MEAT. That many people and 60 players doing this for 15-20 minutes with a crazed dude swinging a chain...could be intimidating.
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I was just curious if you guys have ever expierienced it.
