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Post by fantom on Jun 1, 2012 9:35:34 GMT -6
Note the wording. I chose that carefully. I'm not asking for teams that you support or of whom you're a fan. If this becomes a fan thread it'll get deleted and I'll be the one to ask Huey to do it.
My question is: Is there a professional team that you admire because you like the way that they do their business?
I'm not an NBA fan and I'm not from Texas but I'm rooting for San Antonio to win the championship. I keep hearing from talking heads that SA is boring, no flash. Well, guys playing for the team and not for Sports Center are just what I like.
As a fan I hate the New York Yankees. When you take away the media circus, overzealous fans, and Stupid Owners' Tricks I have to admit that it's hard to dislike the way that they play and handle themselves day to day on the field.
I'm a Packers fan but I love the way that Belichik's Patriots do things.
How about you?
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 1, 2012 9:54:21 GMT -6
Pittsburgh Steelers Organization.
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Post by blb on Jun 1, 2012 10:14:31 GMT -6
Packers but as an "owner" (one share) I pretty much have to say that.
"We" seem to have less business issues than many other organizations. Also fewer off the field character problems.
The atmosphere at Lambeau is still that of a game and love for team rather than sterile business-entertainment enterprise.
Plus Greg Jennings played at same HS and college I did.
Must admit I didn't think McCarthy was a good hire at the time, but that's why they don't let us stock holders have a say in the decisions.
Love Aaron Rodgers, thought he'd be a good one when we drafted him. Thanks, 49ers!
Just wish we'd go back to 4-3 Defense like God and St. Vince meant to be played by Green and Gold on the Frozen Tundra.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jun 1, 2012 10:28:08 GMT -6
Pittsburgh Steelers Organization. No question about that. They're as good as it gets. Three coaches in the past 40 years in professional football is unheard of. The Packers are pretty dang close too. One that I have very little respect for is Oakland. |
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Post by fantom on Jun 1, 2012 10:28:38 GMT -6
Packers but as an "owner" (one share) I pretty much have to say that. "We" seem to have less business issues than many other organizations. Also fewer off the field character problems. The atmosphere at Lambeau is still that of a game and love for team rather than sterile business-entertainment enterprise. Plus Greg Jennings played at same HS and college I did. Must admit I didn't think McCarthy was a good hire at the time, but that's why they don't let us stock holders have a say in the decisions. Love Aaron Rodgers, thought he'd be a good one when we drafted him. Just wish we'd go back to 4-3 Defense like God and St. Vince meant to be played by Green and Gold on the Frozen Tundra. St. Vincent had no idea what they were doing on defense. You know that. Not having an owner is significant, I think. |
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 1, 2012 10:40:47 GMT -6
New England Patriots
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Post by blb on Jun 1, 2012 10:41:40 GMT -6
St. Vincent had no idea what they were doing on defense. You know that. Spoken like a true DC, fantom. ;D He must have had a heckuva ghost writer for Vince Lombardi on Football then. Remember he worked with Landry on Giants when latter "invented" Pro 4-3. |
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Post by coachb23 on Jun 1, 2012 11:06:59 GMT -6
You gotta admire Belichick's Patriots. Only one losing season (his first) in 12 seasons, including 8 out of 12 playoff appearances. Plus 3 superbowl titles with 5 appearances. That's pretty much the model of consistency in NFL, them and Steelers organization, but the Steelers don't have as many recent superbowl apperances/wins. |
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Post by powerfootball71 on Jun 1, 2012 11:16:20 GMT -6
Pittsburgh and Baltimore- physical teams year in and out find ways to put tweeners into impact postions.
New England- the level of intelligence in vets to morph into so many different looks.
Have not been into basketball for years but use to like
The knicks pistons and jazz-- physical defensive teams that played team ball
Baseball use to like saint Louis and kc-- team speed defense manufacture runs.
Football teams I use to like
San Francisco-- hated losing to it (vikings fan) but the wco was awe inspiring
Houston/ Atlanta- Glanville the grits blitz and run & shoot was so different then the rest of the NFL and had swagger
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Post by 42falcon on Jun 1, 2012 11:37:33 GMT -6
Great thread not a fan thread but a thinkers thread!!
Patriots: for how they run their TEAM. Somehow they have established a culture where they get guys to go there (they want to go) and they buy into the concept. Even guys like Randy Moss who were cancers elsewhere.
The way they build things and ID talent. Look at Gronk & Hernandez both great athletes and players but they are dominant in my mind because of the matchups they get this was done by design ie through the draft.
Ravens: the way they draft and the commitment to defence they never let it slide each year they seem to be focused on getting better.
German Bobsleigh Skeleton & Luge: they comit $, focus on performance regardless of feelings or personalityand are in relentless pursuit of excellence
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Post by coachbrek on Jun 1, 2012 11:40:45 GMT -6
I'm a Packers fan but I love the way that Belichik's Patriots do things. I will second that one I am a life long Packer fan but I really admire the way the Patriots get it done. I get a kick out of the jealous fans who hate the Patriots. |
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Post by emptybackfield on Jun 1, 2012 11:49:17 GMT -6
The St. Louis Cardinals are very similar to the Steelers, in terms of stability and leadership.
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Post by coachcb on Jun 1, 2012 12:05:14 GMT -6
I'm a huge Steelers fan but I have the most respect for the New England Patriots organization. IMO, the whole program, from top down is the epitome of what a football team needs to be.
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Post by Chris Clement on Jun 1, 2012 12:10:51 GMT -6
We all seem to be fans of teams that rarely fire coaches. Just noticing.
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Post by powerfootball71 on Jun 1, 2012 12:19:59 GMT -6
We all seem to be fans of teams that rarely fire coaches. Just noticing. I think a big part of that is continuety. How can a a football guy not a average home team or band wagon fan develop a like for a team if they are always changing systems? I love what they are doing in san fran run wise, Rex Ryan in ny all the teams that have been touched by the Gibbs system and even capers in green bay but untell these teams stick with it and let the systems evolve both in personal and wrinkles I can't realy get into any kind of admiration. |
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 1, 2012 12:32:07 GMT -6
We all seem to be fans of teams that rarely fire coaches. Just noticing. They're also some of the most successful ones too. Correlation? I think so. I know in Illinois, the successful HS programs are there because they chose a coach and stuck with him for the long haul. Some of the most successful programs in the state had 3-4 losing seasons with their HC, but they stuck with him and now they're successful and people can't understand why. |
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Post by jgordon1 on Jun 1, 2012 12:53:11 GMT -6
Maybe I am being a fan, but the Washington Nationals built it up from scratch down here..There were pitiful for a few years..They signed a bunch of great ones and now will be competing for a playoff bid
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Jun 1, 2012 13:14:29 GMT -6
As fantom stated-
I hate the Yankees but I respect them to the fullest...I'd like them a bit more if my Orioles didn't have to slug it out in that Division...
Steelers- absolute respect. Tough, steady, nasty, determined organization. All about quality players not specifically signing the superstar...which translates to "building" and organization that will last decades and not "buying" one.
I guess I'm sentimental or old fashioned for a 33yr old. I hate the Heat...they basically school-choiced themselves to "the good team" like gutless schmo's
I love the expectation that these two ball clubs carry with them- world series/super bowl or your a$$ is on the chopping block.
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Post by wingtol on Jun 1, 2012 17:08:35 GMT -6
As much as I hate, nay , loathe their fans you have to admire the Steelers. The Rooney family is beloved in the city. I really do not think you will find a city whose identity is more tied into a sports team than the Steelers and Pittsburgh. The team truly takes on the personality of the city. You really can not understand it unless you have been around it.
Football wise for years they have been about running it down your throat and playing great defense. They don't sign many super star free agents. Take care of their players. Do things the right way. For some reason they seem to be one of the few pro teams that "get it". And you have to like that.
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Post by blb on Jun 1, 2012 17:18:09 GMT -6
Steelers - well, as much as you may think it:
Last four years (from 2008-11) they have ranked 23, 19, 11, and 14 in rushing offense in NFL.
Not that that's bad.
But not what the "image" is.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jun 1, 2012 18:02:59 GMT -6
Steelers - well, as much as you may think it: Last four years (from 2008-11) they have ranked 23, 19, 11, and 14 in rushing offense in NFL. Not that that's bad. But not what the "image" is. Yup, many think because people in Pittsburgh made steel in the 70's that they're some smash mouth football team. They were garbage up front. They were more spread than about anyone except Buffalo this past season. The rumor is, it cost a very good OC his job because the ownership didn't like his offensive philosophy and they felt that had to get back to being true to their "image" |
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Post by Coach H on Jun 1, 2012 18:15:04 GMT -6
New England-The team mindset is what I admire from this organization.
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Post by wingtol on Jun 1, 2012 18:56:30 GMT -6
As much as I hate, nay , loathe their fans you have to admire the Steelers. The Rooney family is beloved in the city. I really do not think you will find a city whose identity is more tied into a sports team than the Steelers and Pittsburgh. The team truly takes on the personality of the city. You really can not understand it unless you have been around it. Football wise for years they have been about running it down your throat and playing great defense. They don't sign many super star free agents. Take care of their players. Do things the right way. For some reason they seem to be one of the few pro teams that "get it". And you have to like that. I was going to say for years they were known for running it down your throat, but not the last few years I know. Been a long week forgot to type that part  |
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Post by pvogel on Jun 1, 2012 19:25:59 GMT -6
Seems like the consensus is pats n steelers. I gotta agree. I especially like belichik. I love how professional he goes about his business. I especially love how he analyzes, manages, and treats players. He gets a lot out of everyone on the team and the locker room is great. They are a very cohesive group with no drama and a fun team to watch. I like watchin how he analyzes players. He doesnt look at position so much as he does ambiguity. He likes guys that can do a lot of different things (wr or rb? De or dt? Corner or safety?). Always a good team in new england.
As of late, i like how the 49ers have been doin things. Emphasis on building their team in the trenches. But i loved how they took Harbaugh's advice to stand by smith. Even though all the fans were callin for his head. Almost all the players are good, likable guys and they have a tight knit locker room.
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Post by carookie on Jun 2, 2012 0:29:53 GMT -6
Although I thought the book 'Moneyball' was a bit self indulgent and ignored the fact that Oakland had great pitching (and I personally enjoy small ball); I respect what the A's and Redsox did in using statistical analysis to find inefficiencies that they could exploit. But mostly I respect that they questioned convention and found a better way (as opposed to just the same way) to do something.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2012 4:51:34 GMT -6
New England Patriots, they always seem to win with what they've got. I admire that...
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Post by blb on Jun 2, 2012 6:23:42 GMT -6
Mara family has been very solid running the New York Football Giants for decades and old timers (like me) have to like Coughlin's approach to the game.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jun 2, 2012 6:30:39 GMT -6
Mara family has been very solid running the New York Football Giants for decades and old timers (like me) have to like Coughlin's approach to the game. Good call on that one. Two championships in the last five years, I can't believe they hadn't been brought up yet. The older I get (I'm only 30) the more I appreciate and understand hard a$$es like him and why they approach the game that way. The organization and production of 53 grown men is not something that can be done being non-demanding. Belichick and Tomlin are the same way. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2012 10:11:08 GMT -6
] I saw the Heat mentioned - I have absolutely no respect for the NBA in general. And I'm not a sour Cavs fan, I quit watching the NBA shortly after Jordan retired. But LeBron was the league MVP and he is not even the best player on his own team and he knows it. Heck, even the Heat fans love D.Wade more than James. That's a joke. The whole league is a joke. I'd rather watch a D3 college basketball game. The NBA is the worst professional sports organization in today's market IMO. I agree with EVERYTHING you've said...once Jordan left, things went in the tank... Duece |
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Post by wingtol on Jun 3, 2012 12:45:03 GMT -6
I also like Belichick - there is no greater example in sport of a coach/organization taking players like Randy Moss, Chad Johnson, etc. - Jack@ss players who were shamelessly self touters and get them to fall in line. I would really like to hear what was said to Chad and Randy when they came in to New England. I don't know if the coach said it, owner said it or the other players said it - but whatever it was took those guy's mouths off of ESPN everyday and I for one appreciated it. I would guess something along the lines of "See all these rings and Lombardi Trophies? We didn't need you to win them before. So either shut up or you will watch us win another one without you." Just to play devils advocate for all the N.E. admirers, How does the spy gate stuff figure into that? |
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