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Post by morrisob on Jan 13, 2012 11:42:46 GMT -6
Our coaching staff raises some money by collecting parking money when we host playoff football games and tournament basketball games. Other than that the boosters pick up the tab.
To minimize the cost we by one big ticket item a year. So one year we get a coat, the next we get shoes, the next we get a travel suit.
We sit down as a staff and decide what item we want for the year.
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 14, 2012 10:57:11 GMT -6
I don't disagree that it sets a great example for the kids that are expected to raise funds. Why not stop there though? Why not condition with the kids as well? Get up under a bar on the squat rack? Throw a couple bumpers on and power clean with the kids? I do, what's your point? Back to the having your coaches raise $900 for gear. That's just absolutely insane. |
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 14, 2012 11:05:04 GMT -6
I don't disagree that it sets a great example for the kids that are expected to raise funds. Why not stop there though? Why not condition with the kids as well? Get up under a bar on the squat rack? Throw a couple bumpers on and power clean with the kids? I do, what's your point? Back to the having your coaches raise $900 for gear. That's just absolutely insane. I know this thread isn't about this, but check out The Graphic Edge. You can get pretty much all that stuff for half price. $75 for a polo shirt? I can't type the words to describe how insane that is. For $75 that shirt better pleasure me regularly. |
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Post by holmesbend on Jan 15, 2012 11:48:26 GMT -6
Our school has a site-wide contract with Nike. What that means is we get 40% off most team apparel purchased. It doesn't mean our AD can't wear Adidas or Under Armour on campus (although he wouldn't). It simply means we have an agreement that every sport buys their uniforms from Nike. Just uniforms. They don't even stipulate that we screen-print or embroider through them. We just have to buy the uniforms for all sports through them. When you cut that 40% off the top, Nike really isn't expensive compared to some of these "off-brands" and this beats Adidas, Under Armour or Russell. Our athletes save 40% off retail of what Nike shoes/cleats usually are as well. To complement all of this, every sport gets a kick-back every year from their sales. I don't know what the percentage is off the top of my head, but you basically get a credit back that you can buy anything with through your team dealer... coaching apparel, spirit packs, equipment, balls, etc. The athletic department also gets a kick back. This agreement has worked well for us. We have good quality uniforms that the kids love, at prices that are cheaper than what some of the other brands or off-brands offer. Nike still makes a killing, plus they pump a lot of their product out to the masses. I would venture to say that our kids get so used to Nike products, they stick with them after high school and I'm sure that is what Nike banks on. How long have you all been with Nike? Good stuff coach. |
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Post by coachmitts on Jan 15, 2012 13:04:00 GMT -6
$900 per coach is insane. Having matching shoes and matching long underwear will not help you win games.
We get a free polo, a free hat and anything left over at the end of the year.
As a coach, we do have to help out with fundraising but it is not our main thing. We sell gold cards. We also work at our local arena in a food stand. We get like 15% of the profits. Its alot of fun to get together with other coaches and the kids parents and work it.
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Post by mholst40 on Jan 15, 2012 23:10:53 GMT -6
Our school has a site-wide contract with Nike. What that means is we get 40% off most team apparel purchased. It doesn't mean our AD can't wear Adidas or Under Armour on campus (although he wouldn't). It simply means we have an agreement that every sport buys their uniforms from Nike. Just uniforms. They don't even stipulate that we screen-print or embroider through them. We just have to buy the uniforms for all sports through them. When you cut that 40% off the top, Nike really isn't expensive compared to some of these "off-brands" and this beats Adidas, Under Armour or Russell. Our athletes save 40% off retail of what Nike shoes/cleats usually are as well. To complement all of this, every sport gets a kick-back every year from their sales. I don't know what the percentage is off the top of my head, but you basically get a credit back that you can buy anything with through your team dealer... coaching apparel, spirit packs, equipment, balls, etc. The athletic department also gets a kick back. This agreement has worked well for us. We have good quality uniforms that the kids love, at prices that are cheaper than what some of the other brands or off-brands offer. Nike still makes a killing, plus they pump a lot of their product out to the masses. I would venture to say that our kids get so used to Nike products, they stick with them after high school and I'm sure that is what Nike banks on. How long have you all been with Nike? Good stuff coach. Our football team has been with Nike since 2008. Our athletic department has been with Nike since 2010. |
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Post by cqmiller on Jan 16, 2012 10:22:58 GMT -6
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Post by fantom on Jan 16, 2012 10:39:38 GMT -6
$900 per coach is insane. Having matching shoes and matching long underwear will not help you win games. We get a free polo, a free hat and anything left over at the end of the year. As a coach, we do have to help out with fundraising but it is not our main thing. We sell gold cards. We also work at our local arena in a food stand. We get like 15% of the profits. Its alot of fun to get together with other coaches and the kids parents and work it. So working for hours selling gold cards and in the local food stand for a 15% profit is easier and less time consuming than talking to a restaurant owner after eating a meal and getting them to advertise in the program or for a banner to be hung inside the stadium? Maybe I should not have listed the $900 number and just said, "bring in 2 advertisements". Then everyone would be okay with it? This is one of the things that turned me off about your posts. Maybe it really is that easy where you live. Maybe the economy is so good and the businesses so supportive that instead of BOGO coupons you can get a $400 ad with your dinner. Not here. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 12:54:37 GMT -6
That's why I've followed this thread, but other than one minor question about the home and away polos, haven't really posted. Given the budget amounts being talked about here, the fundraising amounts being discussed here, etc., I just don't think the economic situations are that apt to what the rest of us deal with.
I coach small school, so our whole staff is five guys. We are a co-op program so we have two different schools and three different communities to hit up...and I still think we'd have trouble getting a total of ten businesses to donate $4OO each for an ad and banner. I'd never say never without trying it--if we had to for whatever reason--but I'd have my doubts. Honestly, it's probably a compliment to your community, cqmiller, that this apparently isn't an issue for you guys!
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Post by coachcb on Jan 16, 2012 12:58:03 GMT -6
That's why I've followed this thread, but other than one minor question about the home and away polos, haven't really posted. Given the budget amounts being talked about here, the fundraising amounts being discussed here, etc., I just don't think the economic situations are that apt to what the rest of us deal with. I coach small school, so our whole staff is five guys. We are a co-op program so we have two different schools and three different communities to hit up...and I still think we'd have trouble getting a total of ten businesses to donate $4OO each for an ad and banner. I'd never say never without trying it--if we had to for whatever reason--but I'd have my doubts. Honestly, it's probably a compliment to your community, cqmiller, that this apparently isn't an issue for you guys! I have coached in two communities where cqmiller's type of fund raising would work. Both were wealthy communities that attracted even more wealth. Selling gold cards proved to be problematic everywhere else... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 13:13:14 GMT -6
I consider "Lift-a-Thons" a success, because the amount of investment is nothing or almost nothing. You aren't going to raise huge money, but again the amount of groundwork is almost nothing. We've tried a variety of discount card fundraisers and the only ones that have really been successful are Casey's pizza cards. They are convenience stores that are all over the place in the midwest, not sure how "national" they are.
I don't remember the exact deal on the pizza, but it was a very good discount. And then, when your card expired, you got a free pizza from Casey's on top of that for using your card all ten times. Other than that, though, we haven't done very well on "discount card" type of fundraisers.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 16, 2012 14:26:46 GMT -6
I think there are a couple of different issues here
1--asking coaches to fund raise
2--asking coaches to fund raise for their gear
3--the amount/type of gear required
4--cost of gear.
I don't really have a problem with the first---as long as it is upfront. Personally, I don't think I would want to coach on the staff if gear was that important AND I had to get it on my own. No hard feelings, but I have never really liked asking for money. Heck, I never even thought to apply for food stamps when I qualified. Never occurred to me. Regardless.. the ball is in my court on that one..so I can respect it.
My problem is that they are all woven together. I might not have as much a problem if it was "Hey, sell a couple of $25-50 adds", or pony up for a polo. I could see that.
I do have an issue with saying "You all need to dress in the same gear, the gear is expensive, and I am not giving it to you...you have to buy it yourself (one way or the other)." I don't think you can require all 3.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Jan 16, 2012 14:40:10 GMT -6
I had a situation last year where we were told not to fundraise "the boosters and athl dept have it covered, you just coach" then it got time to need buses, meals, polos and it was all "you haven't raised any money"... this year I'm doing a lift-a-thon, trying rally.org (like donors choose) and a car wash. We need $5K to run the season, I figure a lift-a-thon can raise that alone, even with our kids.
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 16, 2012 16:24:51 GMT -6
Heck, I never even thought to apply for food stamps when I qualified. Never occurred to me. Not to nitpick, but if you can type that sentence, it occurred to you. |
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Post by coachmitts on Jan 16, 2012 17:39:31 GMT -6
So working for hours selling gold cards and in the local food stand for a 15% profit is easier and less time consuming than talking to a restaurant owner after eating a meal and getting them to advertise in the program or for a banner to be hung inside the stadium? Maybe I should not have listed the $900 number and just said, "bring in 2 advertisements". Then everyone would be okay with it? As a coach, I only have to sell 5 gold cards. Those are 5 quick calls to my family and friends. The kids have to sell 10. And to work in concession stand for 5 hours with other coaches and parents breezes by. Its fun and actually brings the coaching staff and parents together. And doing those 2 things are alot easier then going to business asking for money. Where I coach is a blue collar town that is not well off. Many businesses are laying people off and dont have extra money to throw down for some banners. Not to mention, we have 5 high schools with-in a 15 mile radius. Lots of competition for sponsors. |
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Post by coachmph on Jan 21, 2012 21:38:52 GMT -6
My first year of coaching...we got nothing. Some had some old windbreaker jackets.
My second year, we received a lot of stuff, paid for by our booster club.
My third year, school had stock polo shirt and ball caps. We were responsible for our own cold-weather gear.
When I coached in the US, I was given a track t-shirt from my middle school. When I was at the high school, we received 2 polos, 2 hats 1 pair of game shorts and 2 t-shirts for practice.
When the weather turned cold, my wife (assistant mgr at a major retail clothing chain) bought me a windbreaker jacket in blue, one of the main school colours.
My first school upon returning to Canada liked to wear just track suits and ball caps. I managed to get admin to pay $180 for 6 polo shirts. I don't wear track pants for games, as I find them sloppy and unprofessional. My own khakis all the way (often ones that I stop wearing in the classroom, or are not long for classroom rotation).
My second Canadian originally just provided me with a single polo shirt. I went and bought my own hat in school colours. Since then we have always received at least a polo shirt and hat every year. This year we subsidized the purchase of UA windbreaker jackets.
If the school wasn't buying the stuff, I'd still find a way to purchase something in school colours. I represent the school. They give me an opportunity to teach and coach, so I'd better look like I'm on board with them.
To build on an older thread, we must dress professionally in order to behave professionally. Dress for a game like you would for a job interview.
Track suits suggest to the crowd that you want them to know that you're athletic, and that you're still able to step on the field if need be. Save them for practices or hockey practices.
I coach for a high school, not in the NCAA, NFL, CFL, NHL, MLB or NBA. It's not right to be wearing those logos (or worse, your local Pop Warner team). You're not there to give those teams advertising.
And for those who keep bringing up the fact that Belichick dresses in a ratty old hooded sweatshirt and looks like a slob yet still wins championships, when you compete at his level, you are entitled to dress like that. Till then, set an example instead of trying to be the exception.
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Post by fballcoachg on Jan 21, 2012 22:38:01 GMT -6
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Post by simione916 on Feb 1, 2012 14:45:57 GMT -6
How about sell a banner ad and your coaching gear is paid for. If not, pay out of your own pocket.
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Post by fantom on Feb 1, 2012 17:15:08 GMT -6
To build on an older thread, we must dress professionally in order to behave professionally. Dress for a game like you would for a job interview. Track suits suggest to the crowd that you want them to know that you're athletic, and that you're still able to step on the field if need be. Save them for practices or hockey practices. I coach for a high school, not in the NCAA, NFL, CFL, NHL, MLB or NBA. It's not right to be wearing those logos (or worse, your local Pop Warner team). You're not there to give those teams advertising. And for those who keep bringing up the fact that Belichick dresses in a ratty old hooded sweatshirt and looks like a slob yet still wins championships, when you compete at his level, you are entitled to dress like that. Till then, set an example instead of trying to be the exception. I'm not going to an interview. I'm going to work. I certainly wouldn't wear an outfit with an NFL or NCAA team's logo but I've never bought into the "look professionally to coach professionally? thing. For games we wear a team polo with either team shorts or track-type pants. |
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Post by cqmiller on Feb 2, 2012 6:44:16 GMT -6
How about sell a banner ad and your coaching gear is paid for. If not, pay out of your own pocket. That is what has been making everyone mad on this thread... that is exactly the way we treat it. |
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