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Post by CatsCoach on Nov 6, 2009 8:25:23 GMT -6
Just wondering who makes up your Jv staff? Do you have a coaching staff that just coaches JV or Do your Varsity asst. coach your Jv team.
For us JV team practices with Varsity, and some of us Varsity Asst coach the JV team.
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Post by rcole on Nov 6, 2009 8:46:47 GMT -6
We do it like you do. JV practices with Varsity. Our varsity LB coach calls the D, the varsity OL coach calls the O. I have worked places where we had a separate staff and it worked nicely...I have also been places where we had a separate staff and it led to factions in the program and hurt the program in the long run...the PEOPLE that you have on board will determine if it works or not.
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Post by PSS on Nov 6, 2009 8:53:27 GMT -6
Varsity coaches coach the JV. One of the offensive position coaches will call the offense and one of the defensive position coaches will call the defense.
IMO, you want varsity coaches coaching these kids because these will be the ones you pull from during the season if there is an injury or other issue on the varsity. You want these players coached up and ready to play at a varsity level by a varsity coach.
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Post by CoachCP on Nov 6, 2009 8:54:09 GMT -6
I'm the runningback's and assistant linebackers coach, I call the offense for the JV and I am the head coach of it. Our linebackers coach and assistant receivers coach acts as the defensive coordinator for our JV.
We have a line coach who is just the JV line coach. He is an assistant OL/DL coach for the varsity.
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Post by Wingtman on Nov 6, 2009 9:03:04 GMT -6
The staff I was on, there were 6 of us total for 60 kids. We all coached a position on both sidess of the ball.
HC- RBs/ DES
Assistant 1: OC/OL/LBS
Assistant 2: DC/QBS/Safteys
Assistant 3: WR/CB..called JV O
Assistant 4: JV OL/ Varsity DL Called JV D
Assistant 5: Collected a check or whatever the F he did.
We didnt have titles or whatever. Everyone worked their position unless it was team time then the play callers called plays. On JV night all coaches were present.
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Post by kylem56 on Nov 6, 2009 10:28:30 GMT -6
Varsity staff coaches the "JV team". Our JV consists of younger kids and those who didnt play more than a quarter on Friday night
Varsity OL / DL - Head JV and OC, D-Line
Varsity RB / DC- DC, Running Backs
Varsity DE / Special Teams- Special Teams
Varsity DB / WR- Secondary and Wide Receivers
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Post by fbcoach74 on Nov 6, 2009 10:32:32 GMT -6
I have two full time jv coaches, who also coach individual positions. But our jv kids practice with the varsity most of the time, a few hours each week they are are on their own and sometimes with our freshmen.
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Post by gunrun on Nov 6, 2009 10:47:00 GMT -6
I believe that Varsity coaches should coach all players during Individual period at the very least. Whether you have a separate staff for JV depends on how many good coaches you have like rcole said. Indy time is where players get better and all players in the program should be coached up by the Varsity coaches, who should be the best position coaches on your staff. After Indy time, the JV players can go with the JV coaches for Team period. If you can, combining JV and Varsity for Group periods can be good, too.
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Post by Wingtman on Nov 6, 2009 11:12:38 GMT -6
We always worked our team periods like this:
Tuesday: Varisty 1 and 2
Wed: Varsity 1 and JV 1
Thursday: After Varsity practice jv had an hour to work on stuff
Being a small school most of our Varsity 2 offense was JV starters with maybe 4 exceptions
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Post by coachtr on Nov 6, 2009 11:12:52 GMT -6
Varsity position coaches coach JV. JV is scout team for varsity everyday, we don't get a lot of practice time with them because of that but we also feel that the kids they go against every day are better than the kids they face on game nights.
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Post by kacoach on Nov 6, 2009 13:08:14 GMT -6
Our varsity coaches coach the JV.
OC/RB - calls JV offense
OL - helps OC with JV offense
WR - stands on the sidelines and does nothing
DB's - calls JV defense
DL - helps with JV defense
When we are at home, all varsity coaches are on the sideline.
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Post by k on Nov 6, 2009 14:29:44 GMT -6
I'm the varsity line coach. I call the offense and defense for JV. The video coordinator / WR coach calls the special teams. HC/OC & DC are generally there but always put themselves outside of the coaching box and are out of uniform and call over specific individuals to coach them up. They don't address the team as a whole or by unit during the game.
We have a freshman team that runs our stuff but has different coaches. The freshman HC calls everything for them. The other coaches are parents...
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Post by mariner42 on Nov 6, 2009 14:38:02 GMT -6
We've a full separate staff for our JV. Zero overlap. Kinda bothers me because I'd like to have my hands on the JV's development.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 7, 2009 7:08:34 GMT -6
We've a full separate staff for our JV. Zero overlap. Kinda bothers me because I'd like to have my hands on the JV's development. How separate? separate locker rooms? separate practice area? No travel to Varsity games? Newcoach05--I would say that you will find the most common set up, by a LARGE margin, is that there are very few JV "TEAMS"/"PROGRAMS" but rather just JV games in which non starting underclassmen (some may play seniors though) play. Generally, the in-game management (playcalling, 4th down decisions, addressing groups/team etc. ) is handled by varsity coach who does not do those things during the varsity game. |
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Post by CatsCoach on Nov 7, 2009 16:23:23 GMT -6
For us our JV coaches are
HC is Varsity RB coach
OC is Varsity OL coach
DC is Varsity LB
DB is Varsity Asst DB coach
Special Teams is Varsity Asst LB coach
Most of our JV players also dress varsity on Friday nights as well
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 7, 2009 16:27:13 GMT -6
For us our JV coaches are HC is Varsity RB coach OC is Varsity OL coach DC is Varsity LB DB is Varsity Asst DB coach Special Teams is Varsity Asst LB coach Most of our JV players also dress varsity on Friday nights as well What are the duties of the JV "HC" given that he is the varsity RB coach? |
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Post by mariner42 on Nov 7, 2009 23:39:45 GMT -6
CoachD, they practice on the far end of the field, use the same locker room, run the same schemes (more or less). But there is practically no meaningful/professional communication between staffs (I do my best with the JV DC, but that's about 90% of the dialogue that happens) and no mingling between JV/V players other than sophomore kids we occasionally bring up/send back down and what they do on their own.
Again, kinda bugs. I really would've liked our varsity OC to be more involved with the lower levels, or at least pretend like it was a concern or responsibility of his.
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Post by formrbcbuc on Nov 8, 2009 0:15:34 GMT -6
Our JV staff is a whole sperate group, I'll list our varsity roles and then our JV roles
Me(Varsity LB "spotter" and Assist coach, Assist. Scouting coordinator/ Film coordinator, assist. to special teamscoordinator): Linebackers, KOR, Fullbacks
Varsity assistant RB coach: JV head coach/ OC
Varsity assistant OL/DL coaches (both are booth guys, both are amazing coaches and should end up HC's in the next 5 years): OL/DL guys for JV
Statistician/ assitant LB coach : JV DC
Statistician/gameday play call tracker: JV WR/DB coach
We held seperate practices for most of the season, but had joint coaches meetings.
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Post by olemissmba on Nov 8, 2009 22:08:15 GMT -6
I work in a program with seperate staffs. The Varsity staff ignores the JV, and the JV's egos keep them from engaging at all with the varsity. When the Varsity pulled up a kid, the JV staff melted down. The JV player's only interaction with the varsity player's came when the Varsity players threw their clothes into the shower/toilets.
The division is deep and creates a ton of anomosity. This thread is actually helping me to understand what the problem might be and I will offer up a remedy for my HC during the off season.
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Post by lyons on Nov 9, 2009 10:40:17 GMT -6
We only have a seperate Freshman staff. JV and Varsity work together. But we have our HC, DC, OC that stay with the varsity kids on JV game days. Our JV Head Coach gets the travel stuff ready (jerseys, etc.), sending out lists to teachers for kids that are leaving early and other various duties. He calls time outs and decides on penalties for the JV.
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Post by CatsCoach on Nov 9, 2009 11:22:19 GMT -6
His duties just consist of making sure we are organized thursday nights, Of course he is the one to talk to the refs before and during the games and keeps us other coaches in line  Especially our OC who like to run up the score. That is really all he does! |
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Post by coachks on Nov 9, 2009 14:47:13 GMT -6
Separate staff. JV plays on Thursday in Michigan and you can't play in both. The JV team is a separate entity from the Varsity team.
Our JV staff is made up of nice guys who don't usually know much about football and/or a couple of young coaches who don't know a ton. Relatively high turnover, outside of the head coach who has been with the program for over 10 years (only a couple as the JV head coach).
Some of us want the JV's doing their indy's with the Varsity so we can ensure that they learn the basics (stance....reads...how to tackle and block). However, as we don't have a freshman team we would have a lot of extra bodies and we'd have to deal with the obvious physical differences between 14 and 18 year olds.
The JV staff also likes their independence. They don't do things exactly as we would, but they get the basics of the scheme and they get to play a lot of football. The staff is lackluster (and not interested in learning), but at least the kids have fun (as compared to being smacked around as a scout team)
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Post by brian94 on Nov 10, 2009 18:46:58 GMT -6
For those of you that run practice together have you ever run into a problem with seniors going against freshman?
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Post by k on Nov 10, 2009 19:08:54 GMT -6
For those of you that run practice together have you ever run into a problem with seniors going against freshman? Sure. I have to protect younger kids from my senior and junior linemen every day. Then again last year I had to protect my 5' 7" 160 pound senior defensive lineman from my 6'4'' 270 pound freshman tackle. =) |
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Post by brian94 on Nov 11, 2009 16:44:48 GMT -6
Thats a terrible problem to have
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Post by coachgr on Nov 11, 2009 18:12:21 GMT -6
Varsity/JV practice together. Indi/Group done together and then split for team. I've contemplated having the Fr/JV practice together in the future. Any have success with this formula?
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Post by schenk11 on Nov 23, 2009 9:25:07 GMT -6
Our coaching staff goes as per contract name:
VHC - Calls V-O, no JV duties
Associate Head coach - coaches WR/DB - no JV duties
Offensive Coordinator - coaches RB/DL - no JV duties
Defensive Coordinator - coaches OL/LB - no JV duties
Head JV Coach - coaches QB/DB - Calls JV Offense
Special Teams Coordinator - coaches WR/DL - Calls JV Defense
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Post by rbsuknow on Nov 23, 2009 18:34:27 GMT -6
The way we do it. We have 11 total coaches. HC, 5 O, and 5 D.
OC/QB
2RB/slot WR
OL
WR
DC
LB
2DL
DB
Our Varsity practices Offense while the JV/freshmen practice Defense. Then we switch and V practices D and JV/frosh practice O. This way our kids are coached the same way all 4 years. We go about an hour for each and 30 min of ST tuesday and wednesday. Mondays fresh/JV have games and V watches film and goes through a walk through.
JV staff is just one of the RB coaches and the LB coach on game day.
Frosh staff is the WR coach and one of the DL coaches
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Post by champ93 on Nov 23, 2009 19:18:19 GMT -6
We have a Varsity staff, JV staff and 9th grade staff. Each is independent to a degree, but we all are on the same page. We do indy work together in camps and 2-a-days. I coach the O-line and I have all the o-line from varsity thru JV to 9th grade. I have a varsity assistant helping me as well as a JV and 9th grade line coach there too. I want all our kids from each level to get the same coaching from the varsity staff. I want all them to learn the same terminology, stance, footwork etc.
During the season we only have one day to work together--Tuesdays. We do indy work together then go our separate ways.
Not every level runs the same plays as the lower levels do not have as many as varsity or as many blocking variations. Same is true from JV to 9th. But we all run the same core plays on O, D and even special teams. We do the same drills, have the same tackling and blocking progression.
We do scrimmage with the JV's prior to the season. We run 1st team Varsity O and 1st team JV O against 2 or 3 scout defenses made up of everyone else to always keep kids fresh on scouts.
It allows me and the other varsity coaches a good chance to get a look at the JV's, correct problems and help the JV coaches. As the season goes on, the training wheels come off and they are on their own.
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Post by goldenbull70 on Nov 23, 2009 21:38:36 GMT -6
We have 5 guys down on JV. The head JV coach is also the varsity wr coach/JV OC. He pretty much coaches all of the offensive positions on JV. Our film guy on Friday night is the DC for JV. He pretty much coaches all of the defensive positions on JV. We than have 3 other guys. One guy yells at the ref and the crowd all night. The other two guys just yell random sayings all night. None of these 3 do a thing on Friday night, except take room up on the sidelines.
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Especially our OC who like to run up the score. That is really all he does!
