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Post by utchuckd on Aug 16, 2009 16:18:00 GMT -6
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Post by td4tc on Aug 16, 2009 17:35:25 GMT -6
would be a nice sweeper in the jet offense.you think.think it would be a 'green light' play.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2009 18:53:01 GMT -6
6'5 running a 9.58...just coming off injury, hell he's going deep EVERY play
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Post by kboyd on Aug 16, 2009 20:23:12 GMT -6
WOW. I can't even imagine what that kind of speed would look like up close in person. That is one impressive performance. What kind of arm would a QB need to hit him on the run?
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Post by coachjmcs on Aug 16, 2009 20:36:50 GMT -6
I would love the see this guy in pads, I don't see how he couldn't help a team........... well if he can catch one out of ten balls or so while streaking down field.
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 16, 2009 20:56:49 GMT -6
I would love the see this guy in pads, I don't see how he couldn't help a team........... well if he can catch one out of ten balls or so while streaking down field. The list of trackstars who didn't contribute to football teams is long and distinguished. What is relevant to this board however is deciding how we can take what Tyson Gay is experiencing and use that to better our programs. He worked harder than he ever had before, and ran the best race of his life, THE BEST RACE OF ANYONE IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY, only to be crushed. How can we use that experience to help develop our own players/program? |
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Post by spreadattack on Aug 16, 2009 21:44:17 GMT -6
WOW. I can't even imagine what that kind of speed would look like up close in person. That is one impressive performance. What kind of arm would a QB need to hit him on the run? Just take the snap and launch it... let him run under it |
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Post by alneufeld on Aug 16, 2009 21:54:20 GMT -6
Just a thought - I wonder what he is on?
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Post by tiger46 on Aug 17, 2009 0:28:53 GMT -6
The list of trackstars who didn't contribute to football teams is long and distinguished.
What is relevant to this board however is deciding how we can take what Tyson Gay is experiencing and use that to better our programs. He worked harder than he ever had before, and ran the best race of his life, THE BEST RACE OF ANYONE IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY, only to be crushed.
How can we use that experience to help develop our own players/program?
Being a competitive person, I'm sure Tyson Gay wants to perform better. But, he has no reason to feel crushed. A silver medal is not a consolation prize. They don't hand them out just for showing up and jogging down the track.
Tyson Gay has a nagging groin injury. It is worse than he was telling anyone. He never used it as an excuse and persevered through four rounds of eliminations, broke the American 100m record and, earned a silver medal.
How could coaches of any sport not be able to use that achievement to inspire their athletes?
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Post by coachbdud on Aug 17, 2009 2:48:00 GMT -6
The list of trackstars who didn't contribute to football teams is long and distinguished. What is relevant to this board however is deciding how we can take what Tyson Gay is experiencing and use that to better our programs. He worked harder than he ever had before, and ran the best race of his life, THE BEST RACE OF ANYONE IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY, only to be crushed. How can we use that experience to help develop our own players/program? Being a competitive person, I'm sure Tyson Gay wants to perform better. But, he has no reason to feel crushed. A silver medal is not a consolation prize. They don't hand them out just for showing up and jogging down the track. Tyson Gay has a nagging groin injury. It is worse than he was telling anyone. He never used it as an excuse and persevered through four rounds of eliminations, broke the American 100m record and, earned a silver medal. How could coaches of any sport not be able to use that achievement to inspire their athletes? If you aint first, your last |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2009 6:13:59 GMT -6
I would love the see this guy in pads, I don't see how he couldn't help a team........... well if he can catch one out of ten balls or so while streaking down field. I hear you, but track guys for some odd reason don't usually translate well to football, just different in pads I guess, but I'd love to see it as well |
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Post by tiger46 on Aug 17, 2009 7:02:35 GMT -6
The list of trackstars who didn't contribute to football teams is long and distinguished. What is relevant to this board however is deciding how we can take what Tyson Gay is experiencing and use that to better our programs. He worked harder than he ever had before, and ran the best race of his life, THE BEST RACE OF ANYONE IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY, only to be crushed. How can we use that experience to help develop our own players/program? Being a competitive person, I'm sure Tyson Gay wants to perform better. But, he has no reason to feel crushed. A silver medal is not a consolation prize. They don't hand them out just for showing up and jogging down the track. Tyson Gay has a nagging groin injury. It is worse than he was telling anyone. He never used it as an excuse and persevered through four rounds of eliminations, broke the American 100m record and, earned a silver medal. How could coaches of any sport not be able to use that achievement to inspire their athletes? If you aint first, your last Yep. 2nd place is only the 1st loser. And, no one cares about which team comes in second at the Super Bowl, either. But, if I were Tyson Gay I think I'd laugh in the face of anyone who held those kinds of attitudes towards me. Or, I'd shrug my shoulders, tell them I did the best that I could and invite them to go do better. |
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Post by coachjmcs on Aug 17, 2009 18:44:54 GMT -6
Yea I know most of the track guys are failures........ but to be fair none of them were this fast........
I would take my chances with that guy. Remember Bob Hayes.
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Post by mojoben on Aug 17, 2009 19:13:33 GMT -6
If your Tyson Gay you just shrug your shoulders and keep working as hard as you can. There is just nothing he can do about Bolt. It is pretty weird to think Gay is smashing all these records himself, but due to Bolt he is a after thought.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2009 19:24:51 GMT -6
Yea I know most of the track guys are failures........ but to be fair none of them were this fast........ I would take my chances with that guy. Remember Bob Hayes. I wouldn't call them falures, I just don't know of too many that came right from track and were successful in football. But there are plenty of guys who do both. Trindon Holliday Rocket Isamail Just about the entire University of Florida offense.. |
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Post by utchuckd on Aug 17, 2009 21:03:39 GMT -6
Willie Gault.
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Post by coachbdud on Aug 17, 2009 21:41:46 GMT -6
I take a chance on him, hes only like 22 right now. He will be like 25 at the next olympics, he goes there, breaks his own world record, then immediately starts working with a WR coach, learns routes and catching, how to beat press etc. Then sign him to an NFL team. Give him 1 year to train in football, and he will be a LEGIT NFL WR.
A lot of the other Track stars turned WRs werent nearly as big as him. He is 6'5" and hes not a skinny guy, he is very well built
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Post by xgozout on Aug 18, 2009 6:25:08 GMT -6
I don't know if he will ever see the football field or not. He is rediculously fast, no question! But being from Jamaica I doubt he has ever played a down of football at any level. Maybe that's a poor assumption, I don't know, but I can't see him stepping right in there at the highest level of football (even with a year of preparation) and taking on its physical demands. JMO
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Post by phantom on Aug 18, 2009 9:24:20 GMT -6
I don't know if he will ever see the football field or not. He is rediculously fast, no question! But being from Jamaica I doubt he has ever played a down of football at any level. Maybe that's a poor assumption, I don't know, but I can't see him stepping right in there at the highest level of football (even with a year of preparation) and taking on its physical demands. JMO Exactly. I'm not sure that this guy has even seen a game. Bob Hayes played football in college. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2009 10:24:28 GMT -6
Things change whenever you are getting hit, fast or not.
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Post by kelcoach on Aug 18, 2009 12:11:17 GMT -6
Things change whenever you are getting hit, fast or not. You said a mouthful with that one. I had a kid who placed fifth in the state in the 200 meters and 8th in the 100 meters, but put him in pads and he didn't play any faster than the kid that ran a 4.9" 40. He always slowed down to brace himself for contact, instead of running his tail off to avoid it. |
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Post by coachjmcs on Aug 18, 2009 19:21:34 GMT -6
I know you guys are probably right, he probably would shy away from contact......... but look at what he did to world class track stars. now way one db could cover this guy.
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 18, 2009 19:32:40 GMT -6
I know you guys are probably right, he probably would shy away from contact......... but look at what he did to world class track stars. now way one db could cover this guy. No way he runs a 9.58 when being asked to release from a jam/ or read coverages/adjust routes, or run anything other than a straight line, or start without the aid of blocks, or run with equipment......  |
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 18, 2009 19:34:11 GMT -6
I take a chance on him, hes only like 22 right now. He will be like 25 at the next olympics, he goes there, breaks his own world record, then immediately starts working with a WR coach, learns routes and catching, how to beat press etc. Then sign him to an NFL team. Give him 1 year to train in football, and he will be a LEGIT NFL WR. A lot of the other Track stars turned WRs werent nearly as big as him. He is 6'5" and hes not a skinny guy, he is very well built He makes more as a track athlete than he would in your scenario. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 18, 2009 19:47:55 GMT -6
The list of trackstars who didn't contribute to football teams is long and distinguished. What is relevant to this board however is deciding how we can take what Tyson Gay is experiencing and use that to better our programs. He worked harder than he ever had before, and ran the best race of his life, THE BEST RACE OF ANYONE IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY, only to be crushed. How can we use that experience to help develop our own players/program? Being a competitive person, I'm sure Tyson Gay wants to perform better. But, he has no reason to feel crushed. A silver medal is not a consolation prize. They don't hand them out just for showing up and jogging down the track. Tyson Gay has a nagging groin injury. It is worse than he was telling anyone. He never used it as an excuse and persevered through four rounds of eliminations, broke the American 100m record and, earned a silver medal. How could coaches of any sport not be able to use that achievement to inspire their athletes? If you aint first, your last I think that is a fairly shortsighted and immature way to look at it. Gay has a HUGE mental weight he now must deal with. Again, he ran the best race of his career and was soundly beaten. He gave all the right soundbites, but deep down it is an extreme mind job. This wasn't a scenario of "just that little bit more"...this is the track equivalent to "if I jump off a building, and flap my arms faster than I have before...i will still crash and burn..." |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2009 20:46:03 GMT -6
I know you guys are probably right, he probably would shy away from contact......... but look at what he did to world class track stars. now way one db could cover this guy. No way he runs a 9.58 when being asked to release from a jam/ or read coverages/adjust routes, or run anything other than a straight line, or start without the aid of blocks, or run with equipment...... I agree, even veteran football players don't get back up everytime they get hit. Running 9.58 is amazing..now imagine having to do it again and again, when you're not used to gettinh hit. Look at it this way, do you think he would've broke that record if he had a pro bowl corner jamming him out of the block..I don't think he would |
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Post by dubber on Aug 19, 2009 7:29:05 GMT -6
Usain is a physical freak.
AND, he has worked and trained as hard as anyone to be the best sprinter ever.
AND, in order to do that, he has never worked on lateral acceleration, change of direction, balance, OR ANY OF THE OTHER FOOTBALL FACTORS that determine true speed in our sport.
Do you think Usain Bolt coult run through a BFS dot circuit faster than Donald Driver?
Or even Ray Lewis?
Jerry Rice was a slow straight line WR (in a NFL definition)-----
All that being said, I'd give the kid a look (not that he'd want it....I could see US companies wanting his endorsements now)
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Post by tye2021 on Aug 19, 2009 8:33:49 GMT -6
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Post by briangilbert on Aug 19, 2009 9:25:23 GMT -6
The Raiders will be the only team interested....... (sigh)
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Post by methos17 on Aug 20, 2009 9:58:50 GMT -6
A 6'5" 200+ lb'er that runs that fast? Al Davis or Jerry Jones will sign him as soon as they can!
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