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Post by jsucoach79 on Mar 4, 2009 8:26:01 GMT -6
I am moving a wr to qb this season and would like to make the move more comfortable for him. I want him to unerstand that because he plays qb in high school does not mean he will play so on the next level. Can anyone tell me of players who played qb in high school and went on to be sucessfl players in college at other positions. thanks
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Post by touchdownmaker on Mar 4, 2009 8:29:11 GMT -6
Marcus Allen
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Post by runwithit on Mar 4, 2009 10:56:11 GMT -6
Hines Ward
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Post by ramsfootball on Mar 4, 2009 15:37:39 GMT -6
Allen Iverson was one helleva QB,
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Post by Fishbone on Mar 4, 2009 15:43:17 GMT -6
LaRon Landry and Joseph Addai.
And if i remember correctly, Michael Crabtree.
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Post by phantom on Mar 4, 2009 16:20:26 GMT -6
I am moving a wr to qb this season and would like to make the move more comfortable for him. I want him to unerstand that because he plays qb in high school does not mean he will play so on the next level. Can anyone tell me of players who played qb in high school and went on to be sucessfl players in college at other positions. thanks We had a QB who went on to be a three year starter at FS at Virginia Tech and got to the last cut with the Niners. |
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Post by spreadoption on Mar 4, 2009 18:05:06 GMT -6
Michael Crabtree
Kerry Meier
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Post by jhanawa on Mar 4, 2009 18:58:16 GMT -6
Byran Evans was a QB in HS, was an All American LB at the UofA and went on to the Eagles.
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Post by wccoach on Mar 4, 2009 19:12:55 GMT -6
Larry Fitzgerald was an OLB as a Junior before getting a shot a WR.
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Post by coachbdud on Mar 4, 2009 19:24:09 GMT -6
Allen Iverson was a QB in HS
Most guys who change positions in college. I have heard of a lot of QBs moving to TE and WR
Ronald Curry played QB at UNC and has had an ok career playing WR for the raiders
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Post by jhmustangs on Mar 4, 2009 20:24:10 GMT -6
I think another question to ask is "Why are you moving him?"
If you don't think he will have to tools to play the position at the next level, but he has the overall skills to play football at the next level, aren't you doing the kid a disservice by plugging him into a short term position?
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Post by redandwhite on Mar 4, 2009 21:19:02 GMT -6
I think another question to ask is "Why are you moving him?" If you don't think he will have to tools to play the position at the next level, but he has the overall skills to play football at the next level, aren't you doing the kid a disservice by plugging him into a short term position? Our responsibility is to do what is best for our entire team, right now; not to give one player a better chance to play at the next level. That approach is a disservice to all other 20 or 40 or 80 or whatever number of players and coaches on your team. |
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Post by cc on Mar 4, 2009 22:20:34 GMT -6
I totally agree with you Red and White.
If we put players at positions they might be playing at the next level and not what we need we would have some huge holes. Just look at some O.Lines.
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Post by ccox16 on Mar 4, 2009 22:22:39 GMT -6
Boldin from the cards was a QB at FSU.
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Post by coachinghopeful on Mar 4, 2009 22:35:07 GMT -6
Heath Miller was a QB in High School before getting moved to TE at UVA. Grew up not far from me.
As for current NFL WRs who were QBs in HS...
Anquan Boldin
Hines Ward
Braylon Edwards
Jordy Nelson (GB Packers rookie--2007 All American at Kansas St.)
Robert Meachum (NO Saints)
Former NFL WRs and big name college stars who were converted QBs:
Peter Warrick
Andre Reed
Cornelius Ingram
Michael Crabtree
Wes Welker and Steve Smith were both RBs in HS, too.
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Post by ccox16 on Mar 4, 2009 22:37:15 GMT -6
welker was also a kicker
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Post by spreadattack on Mar 4, 2009 22:51:06 GMT -6
Heck, some guys played QB in college but not the pros. Anquan Boldin and Bert Emanuel are two who spring to mind.
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Post by coachinghopeful on Mar 4, 2009 22:53:28 GMT -6
Almost forgot... Deion Sanders was a HS QB too.
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Post by ccox16 on Mar 4, 2009 23:01:40 GMT -6
Deion was a freak in high school, im pretty sure he played every position. He may even have snapped the ball to himself then threw it to himself.
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Post by jhmustangs on Mar 5, 2009 8:21:09 GMT -6
I think I have to disagree with Red&White and CC on this one. I look at my job as a coach and I think my responsibility is to develop boys into men, and to provide them with the best opportunity to succeed both on and off the field. Part of that is recognizing that if I have a kid with the ability to play at the next level (especially the really special kids), then I have a responsibility to make sure that they are prepared to do so. If I've got a kid who is the best athlete on my team, but he doesn't have the Qb IQ or arm to play at the next level, and I've got another kid who would be just fine at QB, although maybe not QUITE as good as the first kid, then I feel I have a responsibility to that kid, his family, and the rest of my team to do what is right for the PLAYER, not what is best for me as a coach.
That's just my philosophy though - not saying I'm right.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Mar 5, 2009 8:32:16 GMT -6
The last thing I am going to do is start calling college coaches to ask them where to play my kids.
"hey coach jones, how ya doing? things are good here. Hey listen, I have this kid, a real track star , you thinking dback or wideout...we really need a qb here...oh, you have a qb...ok, Ill put him at corner". NO , THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS.
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Post by jhmustangs on Mar 5, 2009 8:37:04 GMT -6
Everyone is missing my point. As coaches, we have a responsibility to the kids. Not just to win games. I'm not saying call a college coach and ask him where to play your kid. I'm saying if you KNOW that the kid can play at the next level, and you KNOW that he isn't going to play the position that you want to plug him into, WHY would you plu him in there? There are only two reasons that I can think of that you would.
1. You have no one else to play that position adequately.
2. You are more concerned about winning games than kids futures.
Only one of those is a good reason.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Mar 5, 2009 8:39:39 GMT -6
You are right, we have a responsibility TO ALL OF THE KIDS so if it means a kid has to play qb for a year for the good of the team and program thats what he does. In the long run that does far more for all of the kids than looking at one kid and saying "youll be a wr in college" - teaching him about TEAM before SELF is doing an awful lot for him in my opinion. I have been wrong before at least once. You have to consider all of the kids.
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Post by jhmustangs on Mar 5, 2009 8:51:22 GMT -6
I agree. That's why I said there is only one good reason. If you've got 3 possible QB's on your team, and on a ten point scale one of them grades out at an 8, one at a 7 and one at a 4, and the 8 is definitely not going to play QB at the next level, then the dropoff to the 7 isn't great enough for me to put the 8 at QB for that season. I'll play the 7 at QB, put the other kid at the position that is going to best allow him to succeed. The team will not be demonstratively hurt by such a move, and it helps TWO kids. The 7 gets some playing experience at a position he has a high likliehood of succeeding at, the 8 gets to showcase his skills as well as help the team, at the position he is most likely to play in the future.
Everyone wins.
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Post by touchdownmaker on Mar 5, 2009 10:31:22 GMT -6
I get you. I never put my top kid at qb anyhow. Usually we are a running team first so my best athletes are probably backs. IF I had a kid who was probably going to be qb at the next level he might still end up a back in my system if hes going to help us more there. Afterall, every kid is a FOOTBALL PLAYER first and his position second.
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Post by redandwhite on Mar 5, 2009 10:44:55 GMT -6
I think another question to ask is "Why are you moving him?" If you don't think he will have to tools to play the position at the next level, but he has the overall skills to play football at the next level, aren't you doing the kid a disservice by plugging him into a short term position? You make no mention in your original post of having someone as good as the player in question, which does changes things, maybe, just a little bit. As I said before, I firmly believe that not giving your team the very best opportunity to win is doing a disservice to everyone else. I think it is somewhat ironic that this discussion is taking place in the context of naming a large number of players who were QBs at the high school or college level and converted to different positions at the next levels. If the kid is a player at the next level, someone will find him. |
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Post by blackbear on Mar 5, 2009 11:19:49 GMT -6
In the context of moving positions to help the team vs helping the player, I actually think that playing qb will showcase the player's talent a heck of a lot more than playing receiver. I know college coaches who purposefully oversign players who were qbs in high school with the intent of changing their positions. They understand the limitations of high school rosters, and that kids who play qb gain a knowledge for the game they might not have while playing another position. Do what is best for your team, and colleges will do what is best for theirs. If the kid can play, he'll get a shot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2009 23:12:53 GMT -6
i think theres a lot of guys who play QB (or RB) at the lower levels and move on to something else, the reason being that QB gets to touch the ball every play and can showcase their talents....a wideout is dependent on whos throwing to him. theres always the school that has just one good athlete and plays him at QB to try to give him a chance to make something happen.
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Post by bobgoodman on Mar 8, 2009 11:15:56 GMT -6
If you've got 3 possible QB's on your team, and on a ten point scale one of them grades out at an 8, one at a 7 and one at a 4, and the 8 is definitely not going to play QB at the next level, then the dropoff to the 7 isn't great enough for me to put the 8 at QB for that season. I'll play the 7 at QB, put the other kid at the position that is going to best allow him to succeed. The team will not be demonstratively hurt by such a move, and it helps TWO kids. The 7 gets some playing experience at a position he has a high likliehood of succeeding at, the 8 gets to showcase his skills as well as help the team, at the position he is most likely to play in the future. But that's only if you're sure he is going to play football at the next level. What if he's a 10 in soccer, or a 0 in crossing the street safely? The short term view has something to say for it. |
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Post by phantom on Mar 8, 2009 11:30:31 GMT -6
Everyone is missing my point. As coaches, we have a responsibility to the kids. Not just to win games. I'm not saying call a college coach and ask him where to play your kid. I'm saying if you KNOW that the kid can play at the next level, and you KNOW that he isn't going to play the position that you want to plug him into, WHY would you plu him in there? There are only two reasons that I can think of that you would. 1. You have no one else to play that position adequately. 2. You are more concerned about winning games than kids futures. Only one of those is a good reason. You said in your first post that your responsibility was to the team. If that player gives your team the best chance to win by playing QB then I believe that you're doing the team, all of the rest of the players, a disservice by not playing him there. |
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