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Post by utchuckd on Aug 16, 2008 21:46:04 GMT -6
Did you see the 100m finals? 9.69 and he pulled up 15 meters early!
That's ridiculous!
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Post by phantom on Aug 16, 2008 21:49:35 GMT -6
Bolt?
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Post by utchuckd on Aug 16, 2008 22:15:10 GMT -6
Yep.
6' 5". Freak.
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Post by highball007 on Aug 16, 2008 23:35:24 GMT -6
What if he was a FB player???
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Post by hawkfan on Aug 17, 2008 0:10:21 GMT -6
What if he was a FB player??? Randy Moss eat your heart out. A 6'5" guy who can run about a 4 flat 40 and jump right out of the gym.
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Post by Yash on Aug 17, 2008 9:04:46 GMT -6
haven't we realized that the track 100m worlds best don't make good football players. No one ever runs a straight 100 yards in football. These guys train to do one thing really well. Run Straight. Not with anyone in their way, not with anyone trying to tackle them. They run straight. Justin Gatlin tried out for the eagles a few years back, didn't make it. There are football guys who are good at track like that Holiday kid out of LSU but you don't see too many pure track guys who are good at football.
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Post by phantom on Aug 17, 2008 9:34:09 GMT -6
Bob Hayes wasn't bad.
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Post by highball007 on Aug 17, 2008 9:54:21 GMT -6
Jordan Kent at Oregon wasn't bad either!
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Post by poweriguy on Aug 17, 2008 10:30:25 GMT -6
Neither was Willie Gault. And Ronaldo Nehemiah played for the 49ers while holding the world record in the 100m hurdles. I believe both won Super bowl rings.
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Post by k on Aug 17, 2008 11:53:10 GMT -6
He can just run a streak every play... I'll take him! =)
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Post by fbdoc on Aug 17, 2008 12:02:24 GMT -6
The kid - Walter Dix, Bronze Medal - wasn't bad either. Hope he gets a good start in the 200m.
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Post by Yash on Aug 17, 2008 12:32:04 GMT -6
He can just run a streak every play... I'll take him! =) What about when a corner like Al Harris jams him on the line and he can't run that streak.
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Post by phantom on Aug 17, 2008 13:15:41 GMT -6
He can just run a streak every play... I'll take him! =) What about when a corner like Al Harris jams him on the line and he can't run that streak. Except that the guy's huge. He won't play in the NFL, though. Mainly I brought up Hayes to be an a$$hole. All of the guys that have been mentioned have been Americans. At some point in their lives they've played football at some level. Bolt is a Jamaican. He'd need somebody to show him how to put the pads on. On top of that, why would he want to? At the elite level track athletes are amateurs in name only. They make big money on the world circuit and the guy who just abused the 100 m record will command big, big bucks. Hmm! Make big money running the 100 or make good money running the shallow cross against Uhrlacher?
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Post by fbdoc on Aug 17, 2008 14:08:34 GMT -6
Exactly! If you recall, Renaldo Nehemiah was ok at best as a footballer. After he took that hit against the Falcons he wasn't even close. Speed is great - but you've got to be a football player.
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Post by dubber on Aug 17, 2008 14:20:22 GMT -6
phantom is right.......
So, the real fantasy is Bolt growing up playing pee wee football.
BTW, at the high school level, football coaches need to scout the track team......you can pan for some gold out there
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Post by aznando on Aug 20, 2008 10:25:30 GMT -6
I think I heard that his 40 time would be equivalent to 3.7 is that correct? I'm no math major but that sounds ridiculous.
Aznando
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Post by pantherpride91 on Aug 20, 2008 10:38:18 GMT -6
I think I heard that his 40 time would be equivalent to 3.7 is that correct? I'm no math major but that sounds ridiculous. Aznando I heard the same thing....I do not put much thought into the 40 yard dash but when I heard that it made me do a double take I want this guy to run our rocket toss.....I couldnt imagine him catching the ball at full speed out beyond our tackle...those are what dreams are made of....
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 20, 2008 19:03:13 GMT -6
I think I heard that his 40 time would be equivalent to 3.7 is that correct? I'm no math major but that sounds ridiculous. Aznando I would bet it would NOT be correct. Chances are that particular figure was calculated by very simple linear arithmetic which doesn't apply here. Those calculations are based on Average speed...remember, in the 40, the speed is below average for a MUCH greater percentage of the race.
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Post by spreadattack on Aug 20, 2008 21:36:50 GMT -6
I think I heard that his 40 time would be equivalent to 3.7 is that correct? I'm no math major but that sounds ridiculous. Aznando I would bet it would NOT be correct. Chances are that particular figure was calculated by very simple linear arithmetic which doesn't apply here. Those calculations are based on Average speed...remember, in the 40, the speed is below average for a MUCH greater percentage of the race. coachd is correct. You don't hit top speed until about 50 meters at least. Many argue the 40 has too much straight ahead running, but you still never really hit top speed on a 40 (unless you're just very slow).
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Post by phantom on Aug 20, 2008 21:54:15 GMT -6
I would bet it would NOT be correct. Chances are that particular figure was calculated by very simple linear arithmetic which doesn't apply here. Those calculations are based on Average speed...remember, in the 40, the speed is below average for a MUCH greater percentage of the race. coachd is correct. You don't hit top speed until about 50 meters at least. Many argue the 40 has too much straight ahead running, but you still never really hit top speed on a 40 (unless you're just very slow). Which is why the 40 is the test for football. It tests how quickly a runner can accelerate and get up to speed. Coachd is right. You can't extrapolate a 100 time to estimate a 40 time.
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Post by casec11 on Aug 21, 2008 7:03:05 GMT -6
Averaged out: Bolt would have run the 40 in 3.544... Maybe some one came up with a formula to get the 3.7 or looked at the time at the 50m mark and avg. that time
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Post by liberalhater on Aug 21, 2008 7:11:10 GMT -6
What happened to sportsmanship? what happened to not showing people up? What to playing hard to the end? or does that just belong to certain athletes? Cause in my mind this guy violated all of those wonderful ideas thrown around on this board.
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Post by spreadattack on Aug 21, 2008 17:01:42 GMT -6
What happened to sportsmanship? what happened to not showing people up? What to playing hard to the end? or does that just belong to certain athletes? Cause in my mind this guy violated all of those wonderful ideas thrown around on this board. Guy is superhuman. That's his retort. Beat him and shut him up. Thats why football is great. If you showboat you will get knocked on your butt (within the rules).
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Post by liberalhater on Aug 21, 2008 20:50:58 GMT -6
Really? so then we all need to be quiet about Randy MOSS? 23 touchdowns....... Somebody needs to shut him down or everybody just needs to shut up?
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Post by phantom on Aug 21, 2008 21:38:08 GMT -6
What happened to sportsmanship? what happened to not showing people up? What to playing hard to the end? or does that just belong to certain athletes? Cause in my mind this guy violated all of those wonderful ideas thrown around on this board. I read an article about why he slowed down that proposed a theory that makes sense. Thses guys get a bonus from their sponsors when they break a world record. If you smoke it and set a record that's unbreakable even by you you get one bonus. If you break a record today then again in a few months that's two bonuses. Makes sense to me.
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Post by liberalhater on Aug 22, 2008 5:04:11 GMT -6
LOOK! I dont care that he did it. I dont care about what moss said or does. I just find it funny that people have two different standards for two different athletes who are the best at what they do. One is justified and one isnt? THAT MAKES SENSE. At some point somebody will complain about how somebody showboats about stupid things and lack of sportmanship this season. Total hypocrysy if you ask me.
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 22, 2008 5:40:25 GMT -6
L.H. I think one could argue that a PURELY individual sport such as track, is different than a team sport in which lineman provided protections, other receivers provided openings, a quarterback delivered the ball. That might be why people have the two different standards...
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Post by spreadattack on Aug 22, 2008 11:32:37 GMT -6
Really? so then we all need to be quiet about Randy MOSS? 23 touchdowns....... Somebody needs to shut him down or everybody just needs to shut up? What behavior are you talking about? If we're talking about him hot dogging after scoring a touchdown, get over it. Note that these are not kids. If we're talking about him with a restraining order or whatever other kind of boundary stepping, then that's different and also unrelated. I also don't recall Usain Bolt fake-mooning anyone. I can't help but observe how often you seem to enjoy conflating different positions simply to make yet another of of your many rather unlettered arguments.
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Post by wingt74 on Aug 22, 2008 14:16:43 GMT -6
Easy fellas, we're all coaches, don't turn this into an NFL armchair QB debate.
I bet Bolt could be made into a good football player...if he could catch or hit.
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Post by phantom on Aug 22, 2008 18:54:02 GMT -6
Easy fellas, we're all coaches, don't turn this into an NFL armchair QB debate. I bet Bolt could be made into a good football player...if he could catch or hit. If he was an American and had any background in the game, possibly. I'd give him a shot. He's 6'5", built like a brick $hithouse, and he's the fastest man in the world. He's starting at ground zero, though, so the odds are beyond long. Here's a tantalyzing question- has he been to college?
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