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Post by phantom on Apr 13, 2008 10:16:30 GMT -6
The thread about coaching apparel made me curious. How many staffs coordinate their game day clothing?
I understand that young staffs have a limited number of options. The same is true for underfunded staffs that buy their own stuff.
For coaches whose staffs have been together for a while, do you talk about what to wear?
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Post by unc31 on Apr 13, 2008 10:28:46 GMT -6
I always tell my staff on Thursday what we will wear on Friday night. It is usually khakis and a black staff shirt or a white staff shirt. As it gets cooler we wear jackets that are all alike.
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Post by coachbdud on Apr 13, 2008 11:55:37 GMT -6
we all wear the same shirt and either khaki pants/shorts
when its cold we just wear one of our Jackets. We have a lot of them from the different years but they all are our football jackets we ordered as a team
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Post by k on Apr 13, 2008 12:05:51 GMT -6
We wear a team color polo with our logo and names on it.
Wear cargo shorts until it is to cold to do so. After than I wear Jeans or team warmup pants with a Underarmor under the polo. When it gets real late in the season the team hoody comes out.
Oh and at no time are we ever told what to wear.
I also wear my team polo to class on gamedays when we have the kids wear their unis.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2008 13:23:59 GMT -6
The first two HCs I worked for wanted us to at least look similar with polos, but it was our discretion as to where pants, shorts, jackets, vests, etc. The last HC I worked for really wanted us to look the same. We had the polos ordered and he went to Wal-Mart to buy us Khaki shorts to ensure they we all had the same shade. To me, it's no big deal as long as you're wearing team colors.
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Post by saintrad on Apr 13, 2008 13:31:25 GMT -6
our HC has us where team polos and black slacks with black shoes. He also goes as far as to coordinate our practice attire too. I guess that is what happens when you have 4 girls in the house.
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Post by coachorr on Apr 13, 2008 13:36:29 GMT -6
It is my personal opinion that a coach should never show up to a game in jeans or flip flops. Ironically, I think it is fine to coach in Shorts as long as they are cargo or Khaki. Then a coordinated Polo is best. A dark one for away and a light one for home. (This way you stand out on the sidelines from the players).
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Post by thekgun on Apr 13, 2008 13:53:35 GMT -6
The day we lose to someone who coaches in jeans is the day that I will move on from coaching.
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Post by k on Apr 13, 2008 14:03:18 GMT -6
The day we lose to someone who coaches in jeans is the day that I will move on from coaching. Opinions like that will differ when there people are probably three generations apart...
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Post by CVBears on Apr 13, 2008 14:31:47 GMT -6
Our program buys each coach two coaching shirts (one blue; one white). We wear opposite what the kids do. The coaches buy their own khaki pants. Our JV staff goes a little farther and buys the same shoes each year as well. That seems a little excessive to me. Should just be able to say "wear black shoes" or something like that if they think it is really that big of a deal. They go out and get the exact same nike air/shock/super-duper-$115-a-pair coaching shoes. To each their own.
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Post by poweriguy on Apr 13, 2008 14:49:02 GMT -6
Our staff wore jeans one time, but that was a game where the weather was real bad and rained all day and during both games. But we all had the same polo.
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Post by bluboy on Apr 13, 2008 15:25:46 GMT -6
We all wear the same shirt on game night (white at home/dark away) and khaki shorts or long pants. Each year the head coach buys some kind of clothing for the entire staff. It's usually a home and an away polo and a windbreaker or sweatshirt. Somtimes it's also a dryfit shirt and shorts. We buy our own shoes, but they are all the same and bought from the same supplier. We want allof us to look the samne; just as we want all our kids to llok the same. If any of us, regardless of the reason, showed up on game night in jeans; we would definitely hear about it from the head coach. I am old school and believe that if we want the kids and the public to think of us as professionals, we must dress like professionals.
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Post by fbdoc on Apr 13, 2008 16:32:13 GMT -6
The kids all have the same uniform on and so do the coaches. We're in South Florida so forget jackets, hoodies, and warmups. We have 2 polos and some kind of team under armor garment - typically the opposite color of our jerseys that day. Echo the comments about looking professional. NO JEANS or FLIP FLOPS!
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Post by cmow5 on Apr 13, 2008 16:39:58 GMT -6
Do you guys that wear khaki pants wear regular shoes with them or dress shoes?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2008 16:43:53 GMT -6
I normally wear regular shoes, but that's because my two pairs of dress shoes are very uncomfortable. If I find a pair of dress shoes more to my liking, I might wear them.
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Post by saintrad on Apr 13, 2008 16:55:57 GMT -6
here is one question that seems to be missing from this conversation: does how the HC/staff dress actually affect the outcome of the game or how the kids play?
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Post by hemlock on Apr 13, 2008 17:03:57 GMT -6
I learned that image is very important. When I GAed I showed up wearing what I thought was a normal set of duds at the office. The head coach pulled me aside and told me that I represent the program, gave me his Gold card, called a clothing store and hooked me up. I was so embarrased and have never forgotten that. Humiliating yes, but definately correct. Even at the HS level I would expect my coaches to look sharp; invest some bucks in your clothes; you get what you pay for. How can you expect your kids to take pride in themselves if you and your staff look like a bunch of second rate slobs. On game day we all look the same; during the school day I want may coaches looking sharp. In our school they represent our program to everybody else. It may sound trivial, but it does matter.
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Post by saintrad on Apr 13, 2008 17:08:04 GMT -6
I can understand that hmelock and on personal note I agree with it, but when you have Belichik (sp) running around looking like some hobo winning championships and Nolan (in SF) dressed in a jacket and tie and not winning things it seems contradictory.
I was always taught sharp casual on the sidelines.
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Post by larrymoe on Apr 13, 2008 17:20:57 GMT -6
We generally wear khaki shorts or pants with a team colored polo. I would like for us to wear the same ones (I think it's easier for the kids to find the coaches on the sideline when they all know what kind or style of shirt to be looking for when they hear the voice, plus it looks classier and represents the program better) but last year at one game we had 6 different styles on our sideline at once. Some of our coaches had been here for 3 or more years and had some from a previous regime as well as the other 2 years under our HC. I was new last year. We hadn't ordered polos last year, so I ended up coaching in a team colored polo I got on Ebay that I had our logo embroidered onto. I thought it looked very tacky and unorganized. Kind of like our program last year. This year I'm in charge of polos.
We did get pullovers though, so at least in the last 4 games or so we looked somewhat similar.
I also worked once for a guy who wanted us to all wear teamwear to practice. Every day. I was only there for one year so that meant I pretty much had to wear the same shirt style (I had two of the camp shirts) every day. That was kind of excessive.
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Post by airraider on Apr 13, 2008 17:23:09 GMT -6
We are toying with the idea of golf knickers and team colored stripped socks. I know this sounds crazy, but we feel it will look more like the teams football pants and allow us to be more team like.
We are debating though on what top to wear. Some say Hawaiian shirts in team colors alla June Jones.. and others are thinking of replica jersey's..
What do you all think?
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Post by davecisar on Apr 13, 2008 17:33:11 GMT -6
At the youth level matching apparel is worn by about 80% of the teams we play. For me it's not about the coaches, it's about the kids. All I care is that the coaches are clean shaven (beard and moustaches ok, no scraggly hillbilly silliness), wear a collared shirt and are clean. IMHO if that youth teams coaches are all wearing matching apparrel it's like having your own bowling ball at the bowling alley. If you bring your own ball, you better be good and you better beat the guy who is using the alley ball. I like to keep it low key and NOT match. Ive seen too many teams with 9 perfectly matched coaches, with new matching hats, pants, shirts and jackets who obviously had spent over $100 per coach for "costumes" but hadnt spent a dime on any clinics or coaching materials and were getting blown out every week. Style over substance reigning supreme. Reminded me of my very first boxing match. My opponnent, robe, boxing shorts, boxing top with his teams name on front his name on back, top notch boxing shoes, 2 trainers etc etc. I had no idea how I would do, no shirt, regular gym type shorts, high top tennis shoes with socks that didnt perfectly match, no robe, just a towel, 1 coach etc. I knocked him down 3 times in the second round If you want to look the part, you better be it IMHO.
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Post by k on Apr 13, 2008 17:39:59 GMT -6
At the youth level matching apparel is worn by about 80% of the teams we play. For me it's not about the coaches, it's about the kids. All I care is that the coaches are clean shaven, wear a collared shirt and are clean. Wait wait wait... So a coach at the youth level can't have a beard? So very much silliness in this thread...
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Post by coachorr on Apr 13, 2008 17:46:39 GMT -6
i think it becomes an issue when a coach is at the ninth grade level and up and receiving a stipend. If a guy is volunteering at the youth Level and cannot get it, then I think it is a non-issue.
If it is the high school level, then coaches and players represent something bigger than themselves and even the football team. Professionalism is crucial.
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Post by unc31 on Apr 13, 2008 18:12:13 GMT -6
airraider, that is hilarious
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Post by coachmathis on Apr 13, 2008 19:19:13 GMT -6
Last HC didn't set a wardrobe of any sort.We all genereally wore the same polo and khakis ,although sometimes the HC wore navy pants. The HC before him never expressed directly a wardrobe but we knew to wear khaki pants and he never allowed shorts as one coach wasted half of a season wondering if we could wear them. When I was an AD/HC I didn't allow jeans or shorts.(and Im in my mid 20's) Nothing against anyone who wears jeans,I just think that it looks tacky and unprofessional. When it gets cold you just have to hope you know who coaches for our school because we bascially wear whatever is in our closets because the school provides nothing.
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Post by phantom on Apr 13, 2008 19:24:15 GMT -6
i think it becomes an issue when a coach is at the ninth grade level and up and receiving a stipend. If a guy is volunteering at the youth Level and cannot get it, then I think it is a non-issue. If it is the high school level, then coaches and players represent something bigger than themselves and even the football team. Professionalism is crucial. Define professionalism. We've been together for a long time. We don't wear T-shirts and sweats and such. We always wear team gear but it's not always the same stuff. Do you have to wear the same stuff to be professional?
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Post by CVBears on Apr 13, 2008 19:36:07 GMT -6
personally, I think that a staff could all be wearing team gear, though maybe not exactly the same, and still look professional. Not everyone has the cash for it, but, doesn't it look better when everyone is wearing the exact same thing?
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Post by k on Apr 13, 2008 19:39:54 GMT -6
Define professionalism. We've been together for a long time. We don't wear T-shirts and sweats and such. We always wear team gear but it's not always the same stuff. Do you have to wear the same stuff to be professional? Does clothing or not having a beard make someone professional or not?
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Post by coach4life on Apr 13, 2008 21:01:39 GMT -6
I'm from Florida originally (now in Virginia), and I'm never more comfortable than in shorts and a T-shirt, flip-flops optional. Now that's for me.
The X's and O's are easy - let me have the pencil last and I'll whip your butt every time, but that's the least of the equation. As coaches, our biggest challenges are to get the kids to play hard, give it everything they've got, understand they are part of and representing something bigger than themselves. Valuable lessons that will serve them well later in life.
If we as coaches don't act with class, and as part of that dress with class, then what are we really telling the kids, the parents, and any other observers? I don't care if it's 6 year old kids, as a staff we must demonstrate that we are willing to look and act as part of the team. Matching pants, matching shirts, matching belts, socks and shoes, every member of the staff wearing each component in l the same color, no other options. Pants are the one place where you can be an individual, either long or short, depending on personal preference (khaki is always a good neutral color). Facial hair should be at the discretion of the HC, I think that should be the only other personal decision but the HC should have the final call on that.
It's not hard to do and it's well worth it. As a staff, you're going to wear something, so you might as well do it in a way that demonstrates class.
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Post by coachbdud on Apr 13, 2008 21:39:34 GMT -6
The day we lose to someone who coaches in jeans is the day that I will move on from coaching. a team in our league does this every year. They are always very competitive make the playoffs most years. Their HC has been there for years and they have always don eit during his tenure
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