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Post by The Lunch Pail on May 5, 2019 5:25:39 GMT -6
I said the boredom stuff wrong. What I meant is I’m not searching the internet and trying to find 110 new drills to add to my collection every day.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on May 3, 2019 9:38:48 GMT -6
Honest question. This is not meant to sound attacking, belittling, or judgmental, so don't come back with something smartass.
Is it a bad thing that I'm not "fascinated", and kind of bored with drills?
To clarify, I fully understand the need for drillwork. I get that drills are made to fix issues and translate into gameplay. But I feel almost sort of guilty that I don't have some book of 100 drills for OL/DL (my position group) somewhere on my shelf that I read every night like it's the Bible.
Most of my drills, to be honest, are sorta pulled out of my a$$ a few hours before practice starts. I "create" drills that directly simulate gameplay. For example, if we have 2-3 DL struggling with mashing down the down block in front of them (what I call "downing the downer"), I'll have them work on the first two steps (first step, down the downer) in both directions. That's probably not "created" per se as I bet some coach 1,000 miles away that's much better than I am is doing the same exact things.
What I'm getting at is, should I feel guilty that I'm spending very little amounts of time in the offseason even thinking about drills I can copy/paste into my individual period?
Another opinion while I'm at it, am I the only one who struggles filling all the time alloted for a 20-30 minute indy period? Especially with defensive linemen, I just want to get our block to/block away stuff perfected, and spend one drill working on any problems we might be having as a group. I'm usually about done in 15 minutes, and I'm just trying to find things to do to fill the rest of the 5-15 minutes. This makes me feel really kind of guilty, or like I'm some bad coach.
I should probably note, I always played for teams where indy time was very brief and group/team time was the primary focus of the practice. So all of these long indy periods are foreign to me.
Does anyone else feel this way or am I just being a weirdo?
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Post by The Lunch Pail on May 3, 2019 4:10:17 GMT -6
I miss 10-game regular seasons. Hell, for the majority of teams here in Missouri (we play 9 games), week 10 games (first week of 8-team “district” tournament) are complete blowouts and even worse, rematches. We had a team play the same team two weeks in a row and lose 70-0 in both games. What fun is that?
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Apr 27, 2019 16:25:47 GMT -6
As a young coach (20’s), I would NEVER do this. Not only is it not in my personality, but if a player sees a young coach doing this, they’ll start to look at him as a peer more than as a coach.
I used to try to be kinda goofy in my first year of my career (19 yrs old) as I’m a little bit of a jokester off the field. Result? I became addressed by our own players by my first name. No longer was I “coach ____”. I had to literally leave schools after that just to try and get a fresh start.
Don’t ever be a douchebag, but NEVER be the “cool sub”. A little bit of sarcasm now and then is just fine, but that is it. I learned this lesson the hard way
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Apr 5, 2019 5:41:19 GMT -6
A small town in central Missouri, in the Columbia/Jefferson City area how big? Town’s about 4k and school has roughly 450-500 kids
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Apr 5, 2019 5:11:25 GMT -6
Gosh I don’t even know where to start. It’s my alma mater, so I am going to show a little bit of bias. - the community has only had football for 15 years but BREATHES athletics. No matter the sport, expect sold out crowds for every home game. The athletic culture is amazing! - the kids. “Yes sir”/“No ma’am” types that come from hard-working families with great parents. We are a small/rural school, and honestly the “yes sir”/“no ma’am” aspect (coachability) won us 2-3 games we shouldn’t have won in 2018 and gave us our best season in school history. - not gonna lie, we’ve had some damn good athletes the past few years. Don’t get me wrong, we play in an uber-competitive league where we’re not head and shoulders above or below anyone. But our kids work HARD in the weight room year in/year out and it’s paid dividends. We’ve got multiple sophomores squatting north of 400 lbs! We’re never FASTER than everyone, but we’ve got a load of meatheads on our team that almost beat a national powerhouse in the Quarterfinals last season with 300 D1 offers on the roster. - we don’t have to deal with the whole “scholarship” craze. Not that we don’t WANT our kids to play in college, but we’re so rural that a D2 kid is going to be a living legend around here. Kids here put all of their time, energy, focus, and effort into being the best HIGH SCHOOL athletes they can be. It’s almost kind of a throwback to when people were less worried about hudl highlights and more worried about sprinting 20 yards downfield to block for their buddy where do you live? A small town in central Missouri, in the Columbia/Jefferson City area
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Apr 5, 2019 5:04:26 GMT -6
Gosh I don’t even know where to start. It’s my alma mater, so I am going to show a little bit of bias.
- the community has only had football for 15 years but BREATHES athletics. No matter the sport, expect sold out crowds for every home game. The athletic culture is amazing!
- the kids. “Yes sir”/“No ma’am” types that come from hard-working families with great parents. We are a small/rural school, and honestly the “yes sir”/“no ma’am” aspect (coachability) won us 2-3 games we shouldn’t have won in 2018 and gave us our best season in school history.
- not gonna lie, we’ve had some damn good athletes the past few years. Don’t get me wrong, we play in an uber-competitive league where we’re not head and shoulders above or below anyone. But our kids work HARD in the weight room year in/year out and it’s paid dividends. We’ve got multiple sophomores squatting north of 400 lbs! We’re never FASTER than everyone, but we’ve got a load of meatheads on our team that almost beat a national powerhouse in the Quarterfinals last season with 300 D1 offers on the roster.
- we don’t have to deal with the whole “scholarship” craze. Not that we don’t WANT our kids to play in college, but we’re so rural that a D2 kid is going to be a living legend around here. Kids here put all of their time, energy, focus, and effort into being the best HIGH SCHOOL athletes they can be. It’s almost kind of a throwback to when people were less worried about hudl highlights and more worried about sprinting 20 yards downfield to block for their buddy
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Mar 27, 2019 9:05:44 GMT -6
I didn’t get the $299 package but I will say it is some great stuff. It’s incredibly thorough yet simple at the same time. He’s done it at both a big school and a small school and succeeded. You can’t help but respect his work
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Mar 13, 2019 15:34:10 GMT -6
I wouldn’t ever want to live outside of the school district I work in. I am a weirdo in that when I find a new school, I embrace everything about it.
I want my kids to go to the school. I want a great understanding of the history, personality, and the people of the community. I want to feel like the school is a part of me as much as I feel like I’m a part of the school.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Mar 13, 2019 15:31:40 GMT -6
10 minutes by car, 15 by four-wheeler, and 25 by tractor.
Yes, we have a “drive your tractor to school” day
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Mar 12, 2019 15:41:27 GMT -6
I think culture is extremely important to winning games. Culture is such a broad topic though.
I hate when I see terrible human beings who have a tendency of overlooking severe character flaws (i.e. Urban Meyer and Hugh Freeze) always going on about their “culture” around their program.
It’s always the horse thief who prays the loudest in church...
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Mar 8, 2019 17:57:32 GMT -6
Question that must popped into my head, are there any examples of these types of systems (spread, air raid, etc.) being pass heavy over a long period of time and maintaining success or is most of this success predicated on running the football? From what I'm reading it seems that teams are usually run first and if they get an exceptional athlete they add passing into their system, what are the groups thoughts? Well it makes sense from an execution stand-point, for me it's a product of simple economics. I believe that in High School you can teach anyone to run the football, you can have small Rb's (not a problem). You can have small Olineman--well that's great--run the wingT. However, if you can't find a guy that can throw the football and another dude that can catch the football then how can you throw the football in High School? I think High School is very different than college, in college you can recruit, but usually in High school you are a boundary High school, and have to live with what you get. So if you are in a school that always has some stud QB--then great--you don't need to run a series based offense that runs the ball first, instead just chuck that thing. However, if you are at a smaller school and have 1 or 2 athletes, I think you gotta pound the ball when you have to. I disagree with this. It’s not “oh we have small linemen, so we’re running the Wing-T” this year and “oh we have an athletic QB, so we’re running veer option” the next. Teams who do that in my experience, which is all at rural schools of >600 kids, never have long-term success. Predictability from year-to-year is GOOD imo! Have an identity! The best PROGRAMS I know (not the best “teams”) are winners in part because they can execute their scheme at a higher level than the opponent can execute theirs. At Webb City (MO), their QB’s have been reading outside veer since they first put shoulder pads on. They have good-above average athletes, but they play fast as hell and mistake free! They don’t beat themselves with fumbles or missed blocks because they are so confident in what they’re doing. If they just decided they had to switch to a four-wide spread because they had a pocket-passing gunslinger, they would be a lot sloppier. And probably wouldn’t be 14-1/15-0 every year. If you run a true SYSTEM, you should be able to adapt to personnel without making wholesale changes. And for the love of God, I wish high school coaches would stop specializing their kids! I’m sick and tired of hearing stuff like, “ope, gotta switch to a 4-2-5 since we’ve only got two LB’s! That old 4-4 won’t work for us anymore”. Why do we look for prototypes at every spot? A TE can do just fine at the HS level being 5’10/190#. I’ve seen ILB’s that are 5’6 160# but they are professional a$$kickers. You can and should tweak your offense/defense a little every year. But never wholesale change. As mentioned earlier in the thread, that makes your upperclassmen freshmen all over again.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Feb 5, 2019 7:43:42 GMT -6
"Something happens on the brain that helps you remember stuff better when you write it versus a keystroke." I agree 100%. I'm an old timer who cut his teeth on pencil/paper scouting at games and 8 mm projectors. I like the ease of HUDL and Excel, but find myself still writing things down on legal pads. I'll use HUDL/Excel to sort info, but I'll make lists rather than print reports. I feel that I get a better picture when I write stuff down; it's not simply statistics or key strokes. Hey, you can't teach a dinosaur new tricks..... I have always been a “write it down” guy, and I’m in my 20’s. It’s not an age thing IMO When I played in HS, I strictly remember looking for hudl highlights of the team we were about to play (we didn’t have a team hudl) and diagramming every single play they ran both offensively and defensively. When I used to work the “snack shack” concession stands during lunch for marketing class, I’d find playbooks on footballxos.com and just jot them down word for word for fun. That’s when I learned that I really wanted to coach.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 29, 2019 20:12:27 GMT -6
I've gone with a modified version of this. Here is my checklist. 1. Choose your QB, 1 OL, 1 Skill 2. Best 11 for defense 3. Fill out the offense Can you score like that? I’m a defensive guy but not being able to score points offensively sucks! My friend coachrush is a double winger. He and I are fine winning a game 14-13 haha
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 29, 2019 10:24:45 GMT -6
I wonder how many people forget that the guys in the CFB all-22 are kids and what they think is some super variation of something is just as likely to be a mental mistake..
I gave up on watching defensive all-22 as well. There are so many variants and different pattern-reading coverage and pass rush games nowadays that it’s literally impossible to tell what’s what anymore without having a very up-to-date playbook.
Defensive back coaching on Twitter is an echo chamber of idiots as well. They are just as bad as the OLP guys. If you’re not running 70 different types of quarters, then you’re living in the dark ages, bro! Prepare to be shredded!!
My worst fear is that Coaching Twitter will drive Huey into extinction (or maybe it already has?). I have learned three times as much football from Huey, Deuce’s blogs, OJW, Brophy, coacharnold, and Lochness than I have ever learned from twitter. The people on this website make this place great.
Coach Huey > Twitter all day
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 29, 2019 10:14:05 GMT -6
I’ve stated this before on a separate thread, but these tweets give me polio just reading them
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 29, 2019 10:09:35 GMT -6
Yeah the guys that irk me on there are the ones who spew out NFL and NCAA playbooks and video. I understand you've done tons of research and are good with video editing but have you ever called that stuff in a real game? Some of that stuff isn't even useful at the high school level. Again as someone said earlier it's an attention getter. You want to impress me show me what you did to win the district championship not how Saban runs his dime blitzes. Duece I’ve posted a couple of all-22 videos before, but not like what most people do. I’m not looking for some cool facemelter super Counter double reverse pass triple move variation that Oklahoma ran or some minute situational blitz Saban checks to vs. 11 personnel trips in the fourth quarter on his 35. I’ve posted two clips and they’re both from Iowa (most innovative offense in CFB right?) and took notice of outstanding hinge block technique and asked a RTP/McKie/Joe Daniel if they pull the BSG on power pass with a clip of Iowa doing so. Hope I’m not part of the problem lol 😂 I legitimately do not care about some super variation of a coverage that you think you might’ve seen Clemson run. I’m looking for basic, fundamental things that can be applied to my rural high school football program of 44 players that are mostly 2-3 sport athletes
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 29, 2019 9:43:56 GMT -6
We don't two-platoon, but even at the small school I'm at now with a roster of 44 kids, I would give this serious consideration:
1.) Choose your QB
2.) Best 11 left, are primary defensive guys (defensive starters, offensive depth)
3.) Next 11, are primary offensive guys (offensive starters, defensive depth)
We use a "series chart" to control subs. So Series 1 offense has different guys than Series 2, which has different guys than Series 3, etc. We have 4 series total. So for this, I would give "depth" guys a max of two series on their "secondary" side of the ball. So now that stud 3-tech that you'd like to play on the OL isn't just trapped into being only a 3-tech. Players still practice both sides, but know that they primarily only play one side of the ball.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 27, 2019 18:25:00 GMT -6
What we used to do: • Postgame= watch film, drink, b!tch about the film, tag the film, create scouting reports, sleep if you’re lucky • 8-9:30 am = Review film with players • 9:30-11:00 am = Go over scouting report for next opponent with players • 11-Noon = weights/conditioning/JV walkthrough • 12-5pm = coaches stay around to watch youth football games if at home
What we do now: • Go home after the game. • Watch film on your own the following morning, but leisurely • No film/workout/walkthrough till Monday afternoon during 8th hour • Each Coach is given 2-3 specific columns to tag, do them on your own time but have them done Monday afternoon 8th hour
It’s so much better now. We live 15-20 minutes from an SEC school, and everyone here watches them play with their family. Why try to force something against that? We are so much fresher and more enthusiastic than our opponents some mid/late season it’s not even funny. We always get hot heading into the playoffs instead of burning out.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 19, 2019 16:48:04 GMT -6
Some of the old-guys don't post on here much anymore Wonder why that is?
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 18, 2019 7:39:56 GMT -6
Missouri here.
We give a 1.35 multiplier but IMO that is not nearly enough. In STL, a lot of small private schools have loaded up with rosters full of D1 blue chip recruits, and putting those kids against schools like where I’m at now, a rural community where a D2 kid might get a statue built for him, is unfair.
Trinity Catholic is about 400 in enrollment (9-12) and had 100 division one offers in this year’s junior class ALONE. That’s not even their most talented class, either. Their Senior class was loaded with offers from Texas, Bama, etc. and sophomores are talented as well. Their entire OL is 6’5 300 lb guys with a literal All-American QB, and their best defender was a 4* with offers from LSU, Texas, and Bama. I’m pretty sure literally every starter had some type of a D1 or D2 offer.
STL has other schools of similar size such as Cardinal Ritter, Lutheran, and Lutheran North. John Burroughs was this way when they had Ezekiel Elliot as well. Putting these teams up against little farming schools where kids might have to miss practice/weights for FFA is silly.
Either private schools need their own separate classification, or they need a 2.0 multiplier. The 1.35 just moves them to the top of their class, but 2.0 at least guarantees they’re playing one class higher. Trinity literally had to play Colquitt County, a 7A powerhouse from GA, because nobody of any class wants to play them around here. Something needs to be done.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 15, 2019 8:45:11 GMT -6
No offense but does anything good ever happen in Florida? I never hear anything positive about that state except the weather. Crazy people, narcissists, tourists, hurricanes, being chased by gators, and crime is like all I think about when I think about FL but people act like it’s a paradise 😂
If you listen to "Marty and McGee" (ESPN Radio Sunday AMs) they close with "Hillbilly Headlines" which is basically redneck stupid criminal stories.
Most of them are from FL.
I’ve listened to them a time or two. Florida is just a strange place
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 15, 2019 8:34:53 GMT -6
This is the absolutely worst. I coach in a county with a looooong time powerhouse program. I can only imagined what its like in other places around the state, but its hell here. You have to black out the windows and never talk about talent you might have because next thing you know they are getting an untraceable google text saying "What are you doing. You need to be at "insert school" It is insane that it comes down to that, but you're not lying. You always have to worry that any kid with talent could be gone the next day. As a staff, it's almost like we have a party on the first day of fall practice in July when kids show up to a practice and are "locked in." And, worse than that is the parents. They sit there and hold a transfer over coaches heads like they're an NFL agent of something. I remember a parent after any practice or 7-on-7 camp one summer make snide remarks to all of us: "If you don't get fired, I'm taking my kid to (other school)." "If that's how you guys are going to get my kid looks, then..." It's turning into an actual living nightmare. No offense but does anything good ever happen in Florida? I never hear anything positive about that state except the weather. Crazy people, narcissists, tourists, hurricanes, being chased by gators, and crime is like all I think about when I think about FL but people act like it’s a paradise 😂
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 14, 2019 8:43:03 GMT -6
Sending prayers.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 10, 2019 16:27:22 GMT -6
Let’s not stereotype ALL young coaches here. I’m a young coach myself and I work hard to prevent from falling into that stereotype. Not going to say my age on here, but I’m definitely under 30. However, I’ve got five seasons of coaching under my belt and I was fortunate enough to work with someone those first two seasons that would respectfully remind me to stfu with my dumba$$ suggestions and listen.
I am a really confident guy but I make it very very clear I have a lot to learn. I take notes at every meeting, I go to all the clinics I can, ask questions, and have a genuine passion for learning the game. I cringe just as much at the “know-it-alls” as you guys do. But let’s not act like there’s no good young bucks out there.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 9, 2019 18:58:45 GMT -6
Our young staff is pretty level headed but there were certainly times when I had to ask them "Alright, what you've got drawn up there is sound. But, what drills do you have to rep it and how are we going to fit those drills in with everything else we're doing?" That put things into perspective for them. Unfortunately, with many young coaches, it wouldn't have done a damn bit of good. "We'll just rep it, brah; it's easy!" Yeah, tell that to the 15-17 year old kids that are still perfecting our base offense. To add to this, as the HC as well as the OL coach for our team, I find that (no offense) all the assistants that tend to want to put "stuff" in are usually the "skills" coaches. They see something that looks "cool" and they want it in w/ very little thought or respect for the amount of teaching it will cause for the line in terms of new technique, skill, run/pass scheme, etc. They generally don't realize the undertaking that occurs up front. JMO. As to OP, I would like to see the year round trend calm down in all sports. I would also like to see youth sports go away. I think it really hurts kids in terms of learning leadership and independence. I also think some of these organizations are HORRIBLY run. I literally agree with every sentence of this post. How have some coaches managed to be WORSE nowadays than they were before there were so many resources? I remember playing middle school football (over a decade ago) and our practices were always organized, structured, and consistent. I got to help out with the middle school program as well as the high school this season (small school) and I was floored by what I saw. No schedule or awareness of time, doing insanely complicated drills with no correlation to the game to waste time during Indy, plays during team that sound like “Spread Right, lets give it to Chase on a juke snake route, everyone else just run a 9” instead of the 5 plays we asked them to run, and endless amounts of Bull in the Ring that I had to BEG to put an end to. Most of these issues have been fixed now, but only after losing over half of our team to injuries (mostly concussions). I would have never let my kid play on this team! It’s like people watched Friday Night Tykes and took notes on it like it was a clinic talk. Youth sports are no longer a pure phase in a child’s life to play a game, it’s become like the Wild West.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Jan 9, 2019 14:35:33 GMT -6
Coaching Twitter. For as amazing as it is, it can become an echo chamber. • I’m getting sick and tired of those corny acronym/list tweets. They just repeat the same stuff over and over and make me cringe now. Example: • “________ doesn’t work anymore! The game has evolved past it!”. I’ve been told Tampa 2, Cover 1, and spot drop coverages are outdated just these past two weeks alone. • “Look at this super-facemelter triple wham zing zapper RPO double screen read from Oklahoma” guys. I think some college guys simply have too much time on their hands. • The guys who read tweets like that and tag their HC/OC with “put it in the playbook”. For Christ’s sake. How big is your playbook? • It’s too applauded in general nowadays to be “innovative” on offense. People try way too hard to be “innovative” without realizing that this is not CFB/NFL, and in high school or lower, execution > innovation
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Dec 23, 2018 8:51:18 GMT -6
Were there any Slot-T teams in the Texas H.S. Championship Games this year? Liberty Hill but I believe they lost
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Nov 1, 2018 6:11:19 GMT -6
Here in Arizona there is a proposal, for football only, to use the Maxpreps rankings, taking a four year average, and establishing five, 40 school conferences (we have 215, 11-man playing football schools). Then every two years you can play your way out of either up or down. Not sure how it will work, but I think the maxprep rankings are pretty true.. The idea of legitimizing Maxpreps like that and using it for official districting is pretty crazy. Around here it's seen as more of a joke/parent site than anything else. Years ago I coached at a place where the kids discovered Maxpreps and became obsessed with their stats on there. They really thought they were the #2 sophomore LB in the nation if Maxpreps said they were. They'd come asking me how to get recruited by SEC schools. I remember bragging to my friends in HS because maxpreps said I was tied for #10 in the nation for sacks after week one (2 sacks). Maxpreps is turning into a joke around here. Half of the rosters (including ours, sadly) are incomplete, littered players that quit four years ago, and with no height or weight for any player. Stats are almost never listed. Sometimes the schedules are incorrect as well. If someone types in “Midway High School” as an opponent on the schedule, chances are you’re getting Midway, MO (130 kids) and not the one from Waco, TX. This screws with the “strength of schedule” on their rankings. If we were going to rely on any website’s rankings, I’d feel much safer with a source like CalPreps or Massey Ratings. They seem to be more analytical and less prone to error than Maxpreps.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Oct 31, 2018 21:40:03 GMT -6
Check out Brad Dixon on Twitter. He coaches at a small farming school outside of Quincy, IL and his practices (he posts them) are very different. From what I remember, he takes Monday’s off and treats Tuesday’s like what most do for Monday (film review, walk through).
He puts a huge emphasis on building speed and keeping guys fresh in-season. It’s amazing
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