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Post by kylem56 on Aug 9, 2009 18:41:16 GMT -6
I know its just pre season but damn do I miss football season. So nice to see live football again.
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Post by kylem56 on Aug 9, 2009 18:38:36 GMT -6
Coaches, if you dont mind , I would like your opinion on this
Is it ethical to call up coaches who are scrimmaging an oppoenent in your league to see if you can obtain a tape of the scrimmage in exchange for film of you scrimmaging one of the teams that are in their league ?
Sorry if that sounds kinda confusing. For example East High School is not in our league but they are scrimmaging West High School who we play for a league game
We are scrimmaging North High School who is in the same league as East High School. My proposal was to trade a copy of our scrimmage with North HS to East HS in exchange for their scrimmage.
There is a couple situations like this, this preseason and I just wondered how ethical it is since we are not permitted to go film the scrimmages ourselves. Thanks Kyle
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Post by kylem56 on Aug 9, 2009 3:17:05 GMT -6
I'll echo what others have said, if you're going to punish him, then punish him. Dropping him on the depth chart is a hollow punishment, everyone knows he'll get his job back. If you don't want to suspend him, then you special conditioning to make up for lost time is also effective. He missed 3 days of practice, 2 practices a day, so that is 6 special sessions according to my count. He will have extra conditioning. And yes he will get his reps (for team, we mirror the field so theres always 2 groups going at once) but I will not allow a kid who just leaves for vacation to walk back in to his varsity role that easy. It may be just for one practice but still. And as far as I am concerned, the kid who stepped in to replace him, if he gets enough reps, he may just surpass him. Coachd5085 I definently see where you are coming from, but the last couple seasons, we have had a problem with kids missing practices for whatever reason and since we had zero talent they would start anyway and thats not sending the right message as far as I am concerned. Now that we do have a little bit of talent, I can afford to send the message. Plus we still have 2 more weeks of 2-a-days. Anyway, On Monday, they will probaly split reps, then by Tuesday unless OT #2 is making more improvements, he may continue to split reps. The original starter played scout D today and was kicking the hell out of the OL so I think he gets the message anyway . I do see where you are coming from though
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Post by kylem56 on Aug 9, 2009 3:07:32 GMT -6
During two a days. We have a "competitive conditioning" session for 20 minutes where one day it may be sled races, relay races, parachute races, etc.
During the season, we try to use team offense (perfect play then sprint 50 yards), team defense (pursuit drill), or one of the special teams (KO, KOR, or PUNT) to get in our conditioning.
We try to make conditioning as football specific as possible during the season
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Post by kylem56 on Aug 8, 2009 14:41:04 GMT -6
his first day of practice he is last on the depth charts, but if by your first game he is still around and healthy and he is better than the other kids like you say, then he starts. Bingo! I agree that this should be the approach you take. We had a similar situation. The kid I think who will start at RT by week 1 has missed 3 two a day practices and the last 2 pre season camp practices because of vacation. He returned and he started at the bottom of the depth chart. Based on talent and football IQ alone, he will probaly end up starting by week 1 but you got to send a message that you have to be committed to the team.
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Post by kylem56 on Aug 8, 2009 14:18:59 GMT -6
We are in a similar situation. our WR coach quit the night before two a days. What we are going to do is seperate WR drills between the QB/OC and our Head Coach because he doesnt coach a offensive position. During 7 on 7 , the QB coach takes them along with the QB's. During mesh drill (QB/FB/TB), our Head Coach takes that group and the OC will take the WRs and then during Inside Run, I will take QB/WR/OL while the OC takes the WR's. I havent been coaching long but from my experiences, when someone quits (coach or player) it usually ends up working out for the best for the future of the program.
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Post by kylem56 on Aug 8, 2009 14:10:57 GMT -6
I have it as well. I watched Robert E. Lee (AL) vs. Prattville (AL) game. I'd heard about Prattville's spread O so it was neat to finally see it in action. I saw that game as well last night. Talk about some speed
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Post by kylem56 on Aug 4, 2009 20:35:21 GMT -6
Wow...dumb..can you say lawsuit
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 31, 2009 21:45:29 GMT -6
Kyle, you can use vixy.net or get the youtube downloader (search it on google). Let me know if you need help with it. I have used it alot for class (there are a ton of awesome old WWII propaganda cartoons on there) with good success. THANK YOU !!! Looks like I am going to be burning a few dvds tonight
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 31, 2009 20:44:51 GMT -6
Not to hijack your thread but if you dont have internet connection in your lockeroom/meeting room. Is there a way to download a youtube video to your hard drive so you can show it to the team ?
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 30, 2009 20:25:01 GMT -6
coacbbdub Its nothing wrong with have your players confident but you have to give them a dose of reality every once in awhile too. Remind them theres nothin wrong with expectations but they better understand the price you have to pay to be a champion. I would show film of practice everyday so they can see he mistakes they make. Another thing we are doin this year is spending the last hour of practice under the lights at the game field.
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 30, 2009 18:14:03 GMT -6
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 30, 2009 18:05:25 GMT -6
jpdaley I know where you are ocming from. When our staff took over our program, we had 22 kids 9-12. The main things we did was recruit the hallways like hard and I think the biggest help was having our HC and another assistant work at the JR high so they were instrumental in getting kids out. Now we average 30 frosh a year.
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 29, 2009 22:43:53 GMT -6
I think you handled it good. If it continues I would have a short meeting with every kid involved then a group wide meeting to discuss the issue. Some other things you could do to build up that family atmosphere with your unit: Take them out to eat (for some reason my fat boys loved hooters ) Have position group meetings where 5-10 minutes focuses on just them and what is on their minds (goes back to the philosophy of "they dont care how much you know untill they know how much you care) Do unit-bonding activities together such as bowling, bean-bag toss tourney, madden tourney, etc.
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 29, 2009 22:38:28 GMT -6
Coach, if you can, get ahold of George DeLeone's O-Line skills DVD from coaches choice. There is alot of great visuals of what you are talking about
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 29, 2009 22:04:59 GMT -6
We added alternative black jerseys that the kids will get to where on homecoming (they dont know about). We also are also going to be 65-35 Run to Pass which last year was total opposite. Scrapping the traditional spread plays like Zone Read and going with the Veer/Power/Counter/Iso. We have some better players who will start and some first time football players who will contribute. Also we open up an addition to our fieldhouse -a football program only weight room-
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 29, 2009 21:08:51 GMT -6
For those of you who have already gotten into pre-season camps/workouts , What has been the biggest problem facing you so far (whether it be position groups, offense, defense, or the team in gernal) and what have you done so far to correct it?
Ill go first: O-Line wise:
1) Our pass pro footwork is as good as it should be. I have fairly decent athletic linemen who just arent very good at footwork yet in relation to our protection. My solution so far: Show film of them in practice, show film of teams how I want it to look like, and try to slow it down more during indy technique (teach) time.
Team Wise: CONSISTENCY! I think 80% of our kids are pretty mentally tough because it is something our entire staff preaches and models on a daily basis. At least in my position groups (O & D line), and during team time, I am constantly harping on effort-effort-effort. It seems like at times, our kids go balls to the wall, best effort in some drills, and then in some periods not. I don't know if it is because they are lazy, tired from the high tempo practices, or because they are confused. I dont realy have much of a solution for it so far except to keep demanding consistency and try to show it on film when they are loafing.
If anyone has suggestions on similar problems feel free to reply. Best of luck to everyone this season!
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 29, 2009 15:35:07 GMT -6
found this through footballscoop, thought it was pretty cool. I guess its the fall preview commerical for the Versus channel
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 29, 2009 15:30:40 GMT -6
My prayers are with you and your family coach. Remember if He brings you to it, he will bring you through it. Just have faith
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 29, 2009 14:17:50 GMT -6
My personal coaching philosophy: I will give my best effort to make you good football players, but even greater men. I believe in being demanding, and requiring self discipline. However at the same time, I understand "they don't know how much you know untill they know how much you care". You have to build a bond with your players before they will run through a wall for you. Each kid has a specific way of motivation. Some you have to kick in the {censored} while others you have to pat on the back.
Offense Philosophy: Have just enough to accomplish what you want to do to a defense) and very few plays (4-6 max). Run first to set up the pass. Paying attention to the little details is usually what makes a unit successful. Fundamentals and technique overrule any fancy schemes
Defense Philosophy: STOP THE RUN! Develop the most aggressive attitude out of each player you can get. Force them to throw the deep ball.
Special Teams: Having a sound special teams committment can help average teams win ball games.
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 22, 2009 14:14:39 GMT -6
wow big suprise. the last issue I recieved was the May issue. They seem to have one excuse after another
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 17, 2009 21:10:42 GMT -6
not sure if this is what your looking for but this is from the March 2009 issue of American Football Monthly, try to get ahold of the issue because it has some diagrams and other info in it.
Developing a “Six-second competitor”by: Mike Kuchar Senior Writer, American Football Monthly
The Program
At 6:00 a.m., the doors lock to the Dan Devine Indoor Pavilion. Players, still groggy from crawling out of bed, start by taking a two-lap warm-up around the football field. At this time, Stoner will bark out the station assignments for the day. Players are asked to focus by listening to his commands as they are running in order to ensure for a clean, disciplined start to the morning. After taking the two initial laps, players jog to a designated stretch line which takes another eight minutes. At 6:13, the team is divided into three equal groups that will remain together throughout the duration of the workout. “Organization is paramount,” said Stoner. “The organization and the attention to detail and high demand for enthusiasm from the coaches are the keys.” For the most part, Stoner likes to divide the team into three groups of around 30 players each:
Group 1: Offensive and defensive linemen Group 2: Tight ends, linebackers, running backs, QB’s and specialists Group 3: Wide receivers and defensive backs
The Pavilion is divided into three stations: agility, speed and the mats with coaches waiting for their respective groups (See Diagram 1). According to Stoner, each station has a different objective. The players are asked – make that demanded – to get through each station in 17 minutes. It must be crisp, and it must be efficient with little time to waste. If players don’t get it right on a particular drill, the clock will continue. “The players are never allowed to put their hands on their knees,” said Pinkel. “It doesn’t matter how tired they get, they do not put their hands on their knees. It shows the opponents you are weak.”
Station 1: Speed Improvement
According to Stoner, this is more of a technique-oriented drill. Top speed is rarely emphasized. Rather, it is the mechanics of the proper form that each coach stresses. “The speed improvement techniques will be done at three-quarter speed based on the level of mastery among the athletes,” said Stoner. “The 40 stance (See Diagram 2) is coached on every rep. The coach will give the athletes enough time to get into their stances before giving them the “go” command. Upon the “go” command, the athlete will explode for two steps and then begin the drill at five yards.”
The speed development drills include marches, skips, high knees, butt kicks, backwards run, bounding and single-leg hops. Again, the activity or speed is never as important as the form, according to Stoner. Players are taught ten terms that define how their upper body and lower body should be positioned (See Diagrams 3 and 4). Upper Body Diagram 3.
Focus – eyes straight ahead, as if you were talking to someone your own height. Pick a point off into the distance at the same height as your eyes and stare at it. Hand Position – palms are toward the midline of the body, fingers are curled in with the thumb on the forefinger. Hands facing torso. Hands relaxed, not clenched. Fix – fix a 90-degree angle in the elbow joint and do not let it change during the arm action.
Rotate – move the arms through a full range of motion, emphasizing the back portion of the movement.
Squeeze – anytime the elbows move away from the midline you get a rotational force, so you must concentrate on getting your elbows tight against your body. Hammer – the arm movement downward should be a violent motion. The knuckles must be in a down and back position (with palms toward the midline of the body) as though standing with your back to a wall hammering a nail into the wall.
Lower Body Diagram 4.
Arch – there should be a slight arch in both upper and lower back. a. Upper back – shoulder blades should be slightly toward the midline of the body, squeeze them together. b. Lower back – arched so that the hips are underneath the athlete. c. Slight angular body lean – do not bend at the waist. Keep the body as rigid as possible.
Punch – the knee is driven forward with the toe up. The chest should remain tall and not dip toward the knee. Punch the knee through the wall in front of you. Foot Plant – the fore leg snaps down and back underneath the hips, not directly underneath you, but slightly behind. The player should be striking with the ball of the foot. Extension – locking out the plant leg to full extension.
In order to ensure clarity and eliminate confusion, it is each coach’s job to use the same terminology to describe the movement. “It’s important that they use the same vocabulary in order for all athletes to understand each coach that will interact with them to correct any flaws,” said Stoner. “It cuts down the learning curve.”
Station 2: The Mats
According to Pinkel, the mats are the most intense segment of the Winning Edge. Thirty players group up into three lines on a 15-by-15-foot wrestling mat. There are ten players in a line waiting for a command from the coach. According to Stoner, here is where you put your most intense coaches, so it is not surprising to see the offensive and defensive line coaches manning this station. Like the speed station, there are certain commands used here that players must adhere to. They include the following:
“Breakdown” - first two lines assume an athletic stance - head up, feet wide, hands off thighs. “Set” - first line starts chopping their feet. “Go” - line executes the drill. “Ready-Ready” - return to the athletic position chopping the feet and evening out the line while waiting for the next command. “Fire Out” - line sprints across the mat, does a forward seat roll at the end of the mat and comes up chopping their feet. The coach will point to a direction at times and have players exit a certain way.
This is where the “six-second competitor” philosophy is honed. Each drill is six seconds in duration and must be done with great speed and quickness. Some of the drills on the mat include a shuffle wave drill, a two-point seat roll, a four-point seat roll, a mirror drill where players have to mimic a “rabbit” movement, and quarter-eagle turns. Again, the emphasis here is on intensity and quickness. “It’s organized chaos, really,” says Stoner. “Drills will be done fast with high attention to detail. Everything is done at full speed. Mistakes and loafing will result in that line repeating the drill until it is done right. Coaches are barking out commands and demanding high energy at all times. The money is made, so to speak, during the mat station.”
Station 3: Agility
Finally, the agility station is split up into two sections with both sections at eight minutes in duration. The instructors’ commands are the same as speed development: breakdown, set, and go. The first section will be working on the following:
1. Bag Agilities- Usually done under a blocking chute to ensure leverage.
2. Cone Drills- These can be a pro agility, four-cone agility or some type of movement drill.
3. Ladder Drills- Two speed ladders are set up 10 yards apart in which players will work high knees, shuffles, skips, hops, etc.
While the first section is working on that, the latter section will be working on team agilities or what Stoner calls reactive drills. The drills and their coaching points are as follows:
1. Back Pedal - Staying low, keep center of gravity over the toes 2. Back Pedal, Turn and Run - Back pedal as fast as possible, on the coach’s signal turn and run through the line. 3. Back Pedal, Weave - Back pedal as fast as possible and turn in the direction given by the coach. 4. Back Pedal, Shuffle - Back pedal as fast as possible, turn in the direction given by the coach and shuffle. 5. Back Pedal, Double Turn - Back pedal as fast as possible, on the coach’s signal turn each time and run through the line.
With the conclusion of each 17-minute station, athletes are expected to run to the next station at the sound of the horn.
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 17, 2009 21:04:19 GMT -6
[glow=red,2,300]How do you make it meaningful? its about relationships. [/glow]When it comes to football, theres practice, theres mop up duty, theres jv, theres scrimmages and all that social fun too...if a kid cant find meaning in that...well, thats on him, you dont have to own that. touchdownmaker nailed it. Treat those kids the same way you treat the starters. Show them you care, praise them in front of the team when you can. My high school coach made it a habit to mention a scout team player who contributed to the success of the team's preparation every week when he spoke to the newspapers after the game. One thing we do is award a Scout Team Player of the Year award at our banquet and also our Coaches Award is usually a scout team player guy as well. The big thing though, like I had originally said is to build a relationship with every one of them..
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 17, 2009 19:50:08 GMT -6
What I would do is is: Ok your goal is to win a state title? Alright then as a team you need to make a list of objectives for getting there i.e. 100% practice attendance win x amount of games to make playoffs
etc etc. I got this from Bo Schembechler's book Bo's Lasting Lessons when his team said they wanted to win the Big 10 title so he and the team put together a list of what they needed to do to get there
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 17, 2009 19:09:00 GMT -6
Self-Discipline Mental Toughness
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 15, 2009 11:21:43 GMT -6
kylem56
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 12, 2009 21:30:21 GMT -6
the best in my opinion:
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 12, 2009 17:37:44 GMT -6
You guys who have long practices, 3hrs +, do you find that your players are less focused as the day goes on. Aren't there some studies out there that anything over a certain time period is counter productive? When I was in HS, our practices were 3hours and we alternated offense and defense. I can tell you that by hour #2 that people were starting to mentally-check out. We were very good (2 state semi appearences losing by a total of 3) but looking back on it now as a coach. So many things could have been done more efficiently. The number 1 thing being that after every play, you have position coaches taking too much time to correct their players on techniue.
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 11, 2009 17:04:46 GMT -6
we call it steal the flag. set up a trash upside down and put a flag or towel on top of it. we have two offense players block one defensive player. the defensive player must get to the flag the two offensive player should protect the flag. It works pass pro pass rush TOUGHNESS CONDITIONING and many of things. the kids love it. Now that is what I am talking about. Football related and sure as hell isnt easy
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Post by kylem56 on Jul 11, 2009 15:01:48 GMT -6
kylem - ever heard of toughness? My original response was not to offend gschwender. Maybe these drills are good for off season workouts but theres no way I would take 10 minutes out of practice so my kids can wrestle towels away from each other. I would rather do actual football drills but hey different strokes for different folks, all the power to ya bud
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