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Post by toprowguy on Mar 10, 2006 20:39:38 GMT -6
We have a defensive staff and an offensive staff at our school.
The defensive staff has all of their staff members (5) working hard in the offseason while the offensive staff only gets 2 (out of 4) of their staff members working in the offseason.
What can be done to get the entire offensive staff to get invovled?
Not sure if giving them ownership would work because I'm not sure if they want ownership. They appear to be happy only coaching 3:00 to 5:30 during the season and that is it.
We cannot let them go either.
Any ideas.....Thanks
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Post by ocinaz on Mar 10, 2006 20:56:14 GMT -6
I think you are on the right track as far as giving them jobs, give them some off season tasks to complete, why can't you let them go? Sit down and talk to them about expectations as an assistant coach, I ma sure others have some imput on this one.
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Post by airman on Mar 10, 2006 21:51:58 GMT -6
IMO you have told them offense is not as important as defense.
the defense has 5 all year round coaches, the offense has 2 and 2 vol or part timers.
as a offensive coach it tells me you really do not care.
then you get upset while you can have meetings with your staff year round, I have to work around schedules.
woudl it hurt to take one all year round defensive guy and put him on the offense and take from the offense one of the no year round guys?
send your best and hardest worker IMO.
just my 2 cents.
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Post by saintrad on Mar 10, 2006 22:58:43 GMT -6
hey airman, didnt see where top said that the offense was any less important, he just pointed out that only 2 of the 4 O coaches were involved in the off-season program. I do agree with you airman, if the offense is only 2 paid and 2 volunteer while the defense is 5 paid then you are tell the offense that they are not an equal part of this team. I liked your idea of moving personnel on staff araound. ALways learn something each day from here.
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Post by coachcalande on Mar 11, 2006 4:40:25 GMT -6
ever see "SAW 2"? that guy could really motivate people...Im thinking of getting one of those "venus fly trap" helmets for my assistants this year...whattya think?
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Post by toprowguy on Mar 11, 2006 6:13:44 GMT -6
Same number of paid coaches on each side of the ball but the defense has a volunteer coach that teaches in the building so he is always around.
On the offense the volunteers we have are not in the building so they are not expected to perform any offseason task.
All of our paid coaches are in the build at our HS and expected to contribute to the team.
Thanks
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Post by sls on Mar 11, 2006 7:11:29 GMT -6
I believe that I heard Frank Lenti from Mt. Carmael, IL say that he always has at least one more coach on the defensive side of the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2006 8:11:48 GMT -6
I don't disagree that sending one of the defensive guys over could help, but it opens another set of problems too. First, which guy is it going to be, is the whole defensive staff going to be asked if one would like or just assigned that way. Head coach has to do what he sees as right, but if you take away from the defensive staff, someone (like the offensive guy moving to defense) will be expected by the remaining defensive staff members to carry part of the load. If he didn't want to do it on offense, why would he want to on defense?
I think that clearly expressed expectations would show what needs handled in the offseason and finding the little niche for each coach would maybe get him involved. I coach defense but I love doing the tendencies and scouting while none of our offensive guys likes it. Consequently I do a "self scout" of our offense and do their cut-ups.
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Post by airman on Mar 11, 2006 10:48:38 GMT -6
ever see "SAW 2"? that guy could really motivate people...Im thinking of getting one of those "venus fly trap" helmets for my assistants this year...whattya think? now you runied saw 2 for me. I was going to watch it tonite.
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Post by cobra1990 on Mar 11, 2006 20:15:43 GMT -6
As an assisstant coach for 16 years I always get more involved when the head coach makes me feel my opinion is important and when he shows he believes in me by giving me a little more responsibility. Giving your assistants a voice and making your expectations known may just do the trick. If it doesn't what have you lost. Give it a try and if your assistants don't become more envolved then try something else.
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Post by coachveer on Mar 11, 2006 21:17:16 GMT -6
Coach, I hope what I say comes out right because I don't know what your role in all this is...Has the D side of the ball always run this well? Or did it take time to build this working relationship? Compare what the "DC" is doing right vs what the "OC" is doing...you might find something that the DC is doing the the OC is not doing. It could be something as simple as giving the asst. coaches larger roles or a slap on the back for a job well done. Again, I apologies if I have spoken out place.
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Post by toprowguy on Mar 13, 2006 19:32:40 GMT -6
Agreed thanks for the help
Keep it coming
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Post by tvt50 on Mar 13, 2006 20:00:33 GMT -6
"Motivation is simple, ELIMINATE those that are not motivated"- Lou Holtz
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Post by dacoachmo on Mar 14, 2006 11:46:57 GMT -6
If the coaches' motivation directly refelects WINS and LOSSES then it needs to be pointed out that they need to step it up or STEP OUT.
If you are "stuck" with them...giving them ownership is good, but with a short leash. I tried it once and the coach started putting in plays the day of a game!!!!
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Post by brophy on Mar 14, 2006 11:53:27 GMT -6
How do you motivate asst. coaches??....take the training wheels off
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Post by dmp225 on Mar 14, 2006 13:47:29 GMT -6
let them coach and give them soem extra responsibilities. If they don't get the job done, then you have a reason to let them go. Put it in their contracts tht it includes offseason work, if they don't want to committ, then it is time to find someone new
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Post by dhooper on Mar 15, 2006 9:56:18 GMT -6
I think the head coach needs to let the asst. know what he expects of them and there job. I going to do something new this year, I'm going to give out a award to asst. coach of the month. I will buy him dinner for two for him and his wife. I'll watch his little one or ones if he needs me to. Now granted I'll put a limit on the expense, but a nice dinner. Maybe I'll get the booster in on it, and do the same for booster member of the month.
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Post by broncoohio on Mar 16, 2006 14:54:22 GMT -6
UURRRGGHHHH i dont even want to alk about this!!!!!!!!my take would take 2 hrs.lol
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Post by CoachBrink on Mar 17, 2006 22:22:54 GMT -6
Ask their opinion, and listen to it. Spend time talking about football in general, not just your system, see what they believe is important.
Most people want to feel like they matter. They also want to learn something. To many times we tell our assistants want to do, but don't always explain why we do it that way. Knowledge Is Power!
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