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Post by runtheball86 on Feb 26, 2006 19:37:40 GMT -6
Are we/should we be "role models"?
Are we/should we be the ones to "set the ethical standard" for our players, school and community?
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 26, 2006 20:21:54 GMT -6
YES and Maybe. Hopefully an ethical standard is already set. We should model that standard. If not, then YES, set one, and live up to it.
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Post by tog on Feb 26, 2006 20:23:05 GMT -6
Yes
and this does not need to turn into a "why do you teach holding" thread
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Post by spreadattack on Feb 26, 2006 20:41:08 GMT -6
Yes of course. Being a coach is kind of like being in public office or any high-profile position, you just have to set a good example for the kids and you are held to a higher standard than everyone else. A local business person could get a DUI and no one would say anything, but if a Coach did he is, justifiably, quite liable to lose his job. Largely because of the bad example.
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Post by outlawzheadcoach on Feb 26, 2006 21:39:40 GMT -6
Yes definately, and if you arent being a rolemodel then step up abd be one because we coaches are the ones who may be the only positive role model that a kid has to look up to. I would feel like I wasnt doing my job if I wasnt a positive role model for the kids.
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Post by runtheball86 on Feb 27, 2006 12:43:16 GMT -6
Clarification - my intent with this thread is to engage in a legitimate discussion of our responsibilities beyond x's and o's. I hope there are enough of us here who believe that modeling proper adult behavior, ethics and the like is indeed an important (if often unwritten) part of our job description.
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Post by tog on Feb 27, 2006 12:48:14 GMT -6
Clarification - my intent with this thread is to engage in a legitimate discussion of our responsibilities beyond x's and o's. I hope there are enough of us here who believe that modeling proper adult behavior, ethics and the like is indeed an important (if often unwritten) part of our job description. I am with you. |
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Post by brophy on Feb 27, 2006 12:53:13 GMT -6
While I don't think you should be someone else / pretend to act like something contrary to who you are - I do think that coaches are male role models in a very powerful sense and it is not so much WHAT we DO.....but more so, in what we DON'T DO.
Interacting with each player is different, but if you can convey that you should always try to better yourself, give everything you've got, be fair with everyone, and enjoy life - I think you've done a good job.
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Post by iahc on Feb 27, 2006 12:59:28 GMT -6
No doubt about it. In my opinion this is job number 1 for us. We must set the expectation level high with our athletes and as a result, we should practice what we preach. The book "Season of Life" is all about this topic - an excellent book that has had a great impact on me this off-season. Our chosen profession is a great opportunity to mold young men while having a heck of a lot of fun playing and coaching the greatest game known go man!
I don't know about the rest of you, but one thing that really gets me is when high profile athletes protest and claim NOT to be a role model. What a load of crap. No you didn't ask to be a role model, but the position you hold makes you one.
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Post by superpower on Feb 27, 2006 13:03:43 GMT -6
I agree that coaches are role models whether we choose to be or not. Therefore, we must hold ourselves to a very high standard of behavior. A great example of a coaching role model is John Wooden. Any books by or about him are great reading.
I also agree that this is job number one, but you can be the best role model in the world and still lose your job if you don't win enough games. How sad. What message does that send to the kids?
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Post by knighter on Feb 27, 2006 14:08:51 GMT -6
I agree TOG. no need for another argument.
We are without question role models, and should act as such. If we are going to hold (no pun intended LOL)our athlets to a higher standard, than we must live up to that standard as well. Face it for many of our players, we are the male role model in their young lives. They spend as much or more time with us even if they have fathers at home. I try to treat each as if he were my own son (although I could beat my own if need be). I want each to become quality citizens, and in football, we have a grat chance to teach life lessons as well as football.
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Post by edwardslv on Feb 28, 2006 10:11:20 GMT -6
Just a quick plug for a book that pertains to this: "Season of Life" by Marx.
I decided I'd coach b/c of the coaches from my past. My HS coaches were, for the most part, in it for many reasons other than being a role model for young men. I was so jaded by my HS experience that I graduated despising football.
After I registered for college classes the following fall it hit me that football was no longer a part of my life. That hurt. I decided to walk-on at a D2 school (Harding University in Searcy, AR), eventually earned a scholarship, and was molded by some of the greatest men to ever grace the earth. Had it not been for these role models my life would be MUCH different. I am thankful they decided football is about more than just a game.
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Post by runtheball86 on Mar 5, 2006 2:32:54 GMT -6
Season of Life is great ... what obstacles do you guys face in trying to be more than just "the coach"?
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Post by wildcat on Mar 5, 2006 11:55:03 GMT -6
While I don't think you should be someone else / pretend to act like something contrary to who you are - I do think that coaches are male role models in a very powerful sense and it is not so much WHAT we DO.....but more so, in what we DON'T DO. Interacting with each player is different, but if you can convey that you should always try to better yourself, give everything you've got, be fair with everyone, and enjoy life - I think you've done a good job. This is a great point. It is also a great explanation of why there are a lot of guys who are coaching who really shouldn't be coaching. You can't really BS a kid...they will see right through it. So, if you are selfish, egotistical scumbag, you won't be able to hide it forever. Eventually, the truth will come out. The kids will realize that you don't care about them and the only reason that you are coaching is because it makes you a "somebody". |
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Post by sls on Mar 5, 2006 15:15:55 GMT -6
Season of Life is great ... what obstacles do you guys face in trying to be more than just "the coach"? Parents, many times I feel like I am really starting to make a difference and then the parent tells the kid the exact opposite and headway is lost. |
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Post by tog on Mar 5, 2006 15:18:38 GMT -6
those aren't parents
those are the people that have produced a child they don't know how to raise
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Post by runtheball86 on Mar 6, 2006 7:22:38 GMT -6
The major thing in life we don't need a license for, tog ... you are exactly right - and too many of the so-called parents only get involved in the athletic lives of their children ... an area they are as unqualified for as the task of parenting.
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