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Post by toprowguy on Jun 13, 2006 20:53:37 GMT -6
One of our OL, LT, is having trouble getting into a stance, he is 6'5 265. Lacks great flexabilty but can run and move great for his size.
He wants to stagger his feet more then toe to in step but we will not let him (yet) because we believe it will make blocking for the run (Zone, Dart, Counter, ect.) alot tougher. But a bigger stagger will help in pass blocking.
We are a spread gun team, so his primary blocking assignment is zone blocking.
What can we do to improve this situtation or do you have any suggestions.
Thanks
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Post by goldenbear76 on Jun 13, 2006 21:20:54 GMT -6
With bigger guys, my juco coaches use to let them have a slightly wider base only because they usually weren't as limber as the smaller guys. I'd say try letting him use a few more inches on his base. If he's comfortable he'll block a heck of a lot better. Even with a slightly wider base, a big guy can make up ground out of the stance faster than a lil guy. As long as he has good balance, a low pad level, and can get that initial step out there without any kind of false steps try it.
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Post by tog on Jun 13, 2006 22:17:10 GMT -6
if he is that athletic, then let him use whatever the heck stance he wants
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Post by poweriguy on Jun 14, 2006 0:36:47 GMT -6
Have him transfer to my school. We'll take him. lol
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Post by tedseay on Jun 14, 2006 3:07:38 GMT -6
One of our OL, LT, is having trouble getting into a stance, he is 6'5 265. Lacks great flexabilty but can run and move great for his size. Coach: After all these years, the best advice I can give you is what Lombardi learned from Leahy at Fordham a LONG time ago and subsequently taught to Gregg and others: Start him off in a two-point crouch where his feet are spread enough so that he is comfortable, but not so wide that he can be knocked off balance with a simple shove. Now drop him into a four-point stance with his back flat and his eyes forward. Now have him lift his non-dominant hand off the ground (I allow them to rest the wrist of this arm on the knee, but that point is minor and entirely up to you). Viola, a small stringed instrument. You should have a solid, balanced and comfortable 3-point stance. If it starts to get sloppy at any point put him back in the 4-point and he will automatically adjust his bad habits back into good ones. |
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Jun 14, 2006 5:36:37 GMT -6
Good advice from Ted. We spend a bit more time in the 2pt. stance before this progression. Starting them from an athletic stance/football position helps- anything "wrong" in a basic FB position needs to be corrected otherwise their 3 pt. stance will be problematic.
For what it's worth, we had a guy years ago who had the worst stance I've ever seen (D-Line). He looked like a guy with a hernia and back spasms. Still, he could get off the ball quick- so there, we did what Tog suggested (nothing else was working anyway, so I went with "line up then when they snap the ball, tackle the guy who has it"). He was a 2 year all-state player in spite of (because of ?) his stance.
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Post by blb on Jun 14, 2006 5:47:00 GMT -6
Don't take a guy who's hitting .325 with a hitch in his swing and coach him down to .250.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Jun 14, 2006 6:53:52 GMT -6
Don't take a guy who's hitting .325 with a hitch in his swing and coach him down to .250. Definitely. Get him in the most comfortable stance for now, let him play out the season with the ugly stance. In the off-season, focus on flexibility (hip, quad, hams, and if he's tight all over, then shoulders too). If he's a senior, play it out this year and let the college coaches worry about his stance. |
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Post by coachjd on Jun 14, 2006 10:48:11 GMT -6
work with the stance as you go, if he can get the job done then let him go. I would start working hip flexibility with him ASAP every day. We have 6 track hurdles set up in our wgt room and we use them for our warm ups. We have the kids forward and backward walks over the hurdles, sideways walks over the hurdles, forward and sideways walks under the hurdles. We have seen a great increase in hip mobility by using these drills 2-3 days per week.
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Post by kcbazooka on Jun 16, 2006 8:01:23 GMT -6
flex him out two yards - let him be in a two point standing stance - make him a tight end and throw him the damn ball...
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