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Post by fbdoc on Dec 4, 2007 15:35:35 GMT -6
HUH???
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Post by bulldogoption on Dec 5, 2007 10:42:31 GMT -6
Unfortunately, it has been my experience that the two axises on the graph are not related. I agree to some extent. There are certainly exceptions to Time spent = increased knowledge. The young geniuses (Gruden), and ..... well we all know somebody. But for the most part I think that the longer you coach, the longer you spend trying to learn thru books, videos, message boards, clinics etc you will become better. I wasn't exactly sure what to put on the horizontal axis. I suppose I could just remove it and we could still rank ourselves in terms of knowledge. Maybe the bottom axis should be specific and say time spent learning. Now that I think more about it I understand how they can NOT be related. A coach in our younger levels refuses to learn, or can't. He continues to try to make stuff up rather than trying to find good resources. I have given him too much leash and now will have to shorten it considerably by basically dictating exactly how the practice should be run and what drills to use. I know one thing for sure, after about 8 BLD's and the marker in my hand I'm {censored} near a 6.....
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Post by brophy on Dec 5, 2007 10:46:56 GMT -6
here is a good way to increase your "score"..............(anyone interested?)
VOLUNTEER TO HOST A WHITE-BOARD CLINIC ON A THURSDAY IN JANUARY.
"knowing" something is different than trying to teach it to other coaches and illustrate its rationale. (an action-situation that precipitates you being sure-that-you're-sure-that-you're-sure)
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Post by coachorr on Dec 6, 2007 0:58:22 GMT -6
DC Ohio is full of crap. My friend if you are only a one or a two, then I should not be on the chart anywhere. I am going to have to rate you at a four or a five so that I can be a legit 2 or 3.
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Post by coachcalande on Dec 6, 2007 8:25:10 GMT -6
I think the internet has changed the time/knowledge graph quite a bit. I think there are more than a few guys that have coached "forever" that do not know the game quite like they THINK they know it. There is always something to learn. To stop learning and to stop studying....thats like giving up. I am a 1.
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Post by biggroff on Dec 6, 2007 11:32:28 GMT -6
I don't know where I fit in to the scale BUT I know the best way I learned football awas from the school of gettign you a$$ kicked.
I was a 28 year old coach when I got my first defensive coordianting job. I was in a conference with 4 Illinois hall of famne coaches. Needless to say, I learned football quickly. Not becasue I was some kind of genius but just because I had to in order to compete in thaty league. I learned more in 6 years in that conference than I could have in 15 years of clinics going against those coaches.
I then took a job as a DC in a small football conference for 2 years in a conference that was average at best in coaching. My experience in the previous league made me a very good coach compared to the competition. I got soft and though I new it all. I got complacent.
Now I am in one of the toughest private conferences in Ililnois. I have been in this conference for 4 years and again can feel myself becoming a better coach each day. I find that I need to go agains tthe best if I am going to make myself the best.
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Post by dubber on Dec 6, 2007 14:07:29 GMT -6
Not to be Zen Buddhist here or anything But the only way to become a 10 is to always believe you are a 1 Humility is knowledge's closest companion
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Post by coachorr on Dec 6, 2007 14:23:15 GMT -6
Dubber and Calende, those are very astute comments. I have a ton to learn.
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Post by dubber on Dec 6, 2007 14:29:54 GMT -6
Dubber and Calende, those are very astute comments. Yeah, Calande and I are one mind about everything......LOL ....... ;D (remember, smilely faces make it ok) Seriously though, once you say "I know it all", you leave zero room to mature in knowledge. Being open to different possibilities, ways of doing things, philosophies, etc.---------that's how you become a better coach That's why I think the A-11 system of football is GREAT for coaches to look at and scrutinize.............you DON"T have to run it, but look at it, understand what they are trying to do, and you perhaps may learn something to help your team.
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Post by coachcalande on Dec 6, 2007 16:20:23 GMT -6
The coach who I THINK is on the best track to being at the top of the scale...ted seay...you really need to know football the way he knows football...study the history of football...do you REALLY KNOW FOOTBALL? DO YOU KNOW SINGLE WING FOOTBALL???
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 6, 2007 17:40:04 GMT -6
The coach who I THINK is on the best track to being at the top of the scale...ted seay...you really need to know football the way he knows football...study the history of football...do you REALLY KNOW FOOTBALL? DO YOU KNOW SINGLE WING FOOTBALL??? Why is this important though? Seriously, why does knowing past schemes, or the evolution of schemes impact a coaches ability to get his kids to do what he wants them to do better than another coach does? (coaches job) This doesn't just apply to Calande, but to the entire thread. Does being high on the scale matter? Is "football knowledge" all that important? Or is it more important to be able to analyze situations, and make changes to best suit these situations.
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