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Post by coachboss on Feb 18, 2008 9:27:26 GMT -6
Besides the x's and o's .... I am looking for some insight from some experienced and successful coaches on what you believe are the major and minor components of creating a GREAT football program ... a DYNASTY. What makes up the foundation of state championship teams? I am all ears .....
Thanks
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Post by phantom on Feb 18, 2008 9:50:06 GMT -6
Talent. Besides that I believe you need a HC with a philosophy, a committment to the offseason program, and coaches who are great teachers of fundamentals.
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Post by revtaz on Feb 18, 2008 11:24:46 GMT -6
There are 4 ELITE programs in NH.
Pinkerton Academy (Derry, NH Public/Private School)
Exeter (Exeter, NH Public School)
Bishop Guertin (Nashua, NH Private School)
Plymouth (Plymouth, NH Public School)
Three of these schools are Public schools and they have what I call the Big 3:
1. Infrastructure - Excellent Pop Warner/Youth programs. Tons of support by Admin and parents.
2. Facilities - Exeter has what I believe to be the best football facility in the state. The others are excellent also.
3. Coaching - Strong, smart, driven, experienced coaching. Most of the guys on those staffs could be HC's somewhere else, they all choose to stay because of the strong connection to the program.
That's exactly what you need to have a great program. I know talent is needed, but the infrastructure of the youth programs should work to create that.
Taz
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Post by coachorr on Feb 18, 2008 12:08:32 GMT -6
Being able to recruit or having a school board, which is willing to constantly move the school boundaries in a district to favor one school over another; then create a plan where the favored school gets most of the AP courses and the other school gets more of the special needs programs ie. unwed teen mothers, ESL, and remedial courses.
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Post by davecisar on Feb 18, 2008 12:25:57 GMT -6
There are a number of football dynasties in Nebraska now, Millard North (Omaha), Howells and McCook
I only know about the Millard North Situation, seen them play a bunch, saw HC speak at a clinic,, nieces and nephews attend/play there:
Very sound, well coached and successful youth programs ( youth programs do NOT run the MN option attack but are perennial National Title contenders and feed into all 3 Millard schools) the parents and kids are used to committing to a big goal ( 4 month season) extensive travel, playing in big games and winning
Huge numbers- Millard North often has over 120 freshmen out and once suited up 105 kids on varsity vs my old HS which suited less than 30. The kids want to be part of something bigger than themselves, they are used to playing football at a high level.
Above average facilities: They dont even have an on site stadium, their 2 suburban competitors each have beautiful stadiums and posh new facilities ( Millard West)- But better than 65% of their competition
Excellent coaching- Sustained Identity- Option Football, very physical, they dont beat themselves and dont lose games they shouldnt. Same coaching staff for a very long time.
Outstanding off-season program- These guys build linemen, always very strong- they enhance speed- Very quick for a team that rarely has any, zero minority players.
Coach has the reputation of playing his best players, that includes starting Sophs if they are the best player at that position. Lots of internal competition to play, but since they win so many games big, they get the other kids playing time.
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Post by coachveer on Feb 18, 2008 12:26:12 GMT -6
Administrative support that will allow you to develop your program the way YOU want to and not the way your players parents want to.
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Post by davecisar on Feb 18, 2008 12:26:48 GMT -6
There are a number of football dynasties in Nebraska now, Millard North (Omaha), Howells and McCook
I only know about the Millard North Situation, seen them play a bunch, saw HC speak at a clinic,, nieces and nephews attend/play there:
Very sound, well coached and successful youth programs ( youth programs do NOT run the MN option attack but are perennial National Title contenders and feed into all 3 Millard schools) the parents and kids are used to committing to a big goal ( 4 month season) extensive travel, playing in big games and winning
Huge numbers- Millard North often has over 120 freshmen out and once suited up 105 kids on varsity vs my old HS which suited less than 30. The kids want to be part of something bigger than themselves, they are used to playing football at a high level.
Above average facilities: They dont even have an on site stadium, or even their own stadium they share one that just happends to be on campus of their biggest rival. Their 2 suburban competitors each have beautiful stadiums and posh new facilities ( Millard West)- But better than 65% of their competition
Excellent coaching- Sustained Identity- Option Football, very physical, they dont beat themselves and dont lose games they shouldnt. Same coaching staff for a very long time.
Outstanding off-season program- These guys build linemen, always very strong- they enhance speed- Very quick for a team that rarely has any, zero minority players.
Coach has the reputation of playing his best players, that includes starting Sophs if they are the best player at that position. Lots of internal competition to play, but since they win so many games big, they get the other kids playing time.
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Post by wingt74 on Feb 18, 2008 13:44:56 GMT -6
Video tapes of your opponents offensive and defensive signals. (kidding) 25% Coaches who are great motivators, especially during the off-season. Coaches who get kids to come out for football Coaches who are cutting edge with their teaching techniques Excellent tradition 75% Luck I think dynasties can happen without excellent facilities or tremendous support from the community/admin. This comes AFTER the championships  |
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Post by bulldogoption on Feb 20, 2008 20:49:11 GMT -6
Personable coaching staff who attract and keep athletes. Effective strength and conditioning program xs and os that are known inside and out by the staff- staff always working to improve practice plans and procedure that maximizes use of time and available equipment administrative support effective use of dicispline expectations of parents, players and staff spelled out clearly head coach has a vision and communicates well staff is passionate and creates enthusiasm level of competition during the regular season prepares the team for playoff intensity (cupcake schedule can become a problem) growing area- good school, that can allow athletes to move into the area (winning programs with good academic record attracts players and their parents) I can think of a dynasty in our area and coachcalende pegged them |
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Post by leighty on Feb 20, 2008 21:14:56 GMT -6
Being able to recruit or having a school board, which is willing to constantly move the school boundaries in a district to favor one school over another; then create a plan where the favored school gets most of the AP courses and the other school gets more of the special needs programs ie. unwed teen mothers, ESL, and remedial courses. Bitter, party of one... |
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Post by coachweav88 on Feb 24, 2008 16:56:56 GMT -6
I live in a rural area of Ohio where there are several high caliber programs. in fact one of the conferences in our area has had two state champions in the same conference for the past 3 years.
What I see about those programs is a strong work ethic (many of those kids are farm boys), community support, and EXCELLENT fundamentals. This area also has a lot of strong families which probably helps. Lots of kids out for the program even though they are small schools. High numbers increases the competition for positions.
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Post by coach79 on Feb 24, 2008 18:34:31 GMT -6
Being able to recruit or having a school board, which is willing to constantly move the school boundaries in a district to favor one school over another; then create a plan where the favored school gets most of the AP courses and the other school gets more of the special needs programs ie. unwed teen mothers, ESL, and remedial courses. This wasn't ignorant at all. |
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