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Post by spos21ram on Nov 25, 2007 20:43:58 GMT -6
Brady and the Pats do a pretty smart thing with a hard count pretty much every play to see where the pressue will come from then he calls the protection accordingly.
Never noticed this before, I wonder how many other teams do this.
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Post by theprez98 on Nov 25, 2007 20:48:47 GMT -6
Brady and the Pats do a pretty smart thing with a hard count pretty much every play to see where the pressue will come from then he calls the protection accordingly. Never noticed this before, I wonder how many other teams do this. I'd be curious to hear what other people think about the hard count that drew the Eagles offsides. Brady bobbed his head pretty good, dropped his shoulders, moved his hands. Probably a judgment call by the officials, but obviously they didn't think it was enough.
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Post by w22shadow on Nov 25, 2007 21:04:36 GMT -6
What would prevent a quarterback from taking a few quick steps backwards from under center (as though in motion) during a saddle play? I might be misunderstanding the man-in-motion rule.
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Post by fort on Nov 25, 2007 21:05:12 GMT -6
I personally thought it was enough for a flag, especially with the hand and shoulder movement.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 25, 2007 21:09:04 GMT -6
What would prevent a quarterback from taking a few quick steps backwards from under center (as though in motion) during a saddle play? I might be misunderstanding the man-in-motion rule. Because it is illegal to "simulate a snap" with any movements.
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Post by phantom on Nov 25, 2007 21:30:51 GMT -6
What would prevent a quarterback from taking a few quick steps backwards from under center (as though in motion) during a saddle play? I might be misunderstanding the man-in-motion rule. Because it is illegal to "simulate a snap" with any movements. Yeah. I thought it should have been called.
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Post by khalfie on Nov 25, 2007 21:32:10 GMT -6
Did you hear his audible in his cadence?
""You got it Freak?"
Wonder whom he was talking too? Didn't throw it to Randy, though it looked like he was looking for him.
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Post by theprez98 on Nov 25, 2007 22:03:57 GMT -6
Did you hear his audible in his cadence? ""You got it Freak?" Wonder whom he was talking too? Didn't throw it to Randy, though it looked like he was looking for him. Jevon Kearse is "the freak".
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Post by coachbdud on Nov 26, 2007 1:23:42 GMT -6
was there something special with the broadcast tonight or something? I have never heard a QB like that over the TV before, did they point a mic at him just for this game or are they planning on doing it in more games?
It is pretty cool to hear everything that goes on presnap
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Post by olinecoach61 on Nov 26, 2007 7:23:25 GMT -6
1. Brady definelty drew them offsides illegally, he bobbed his head, flashed his hands, and took a step backwards. 2. One of my buddies who runs spread calls this a freeze cadence, he uses it when teams are stemming and stunting alot, they call in the play from the sideline.
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Post by theprez98 on Nov 26, 2007 11:09:56 GMT -6
was there something special with the broadcast tonight or something? I have never heard a QB like that over the TV before, did they point a mic at him just for this game or are they planning on doing it in more games? It is pretty cool to hear everything that goes on presnap They definitely focused on Brady more than they do for a normal game.
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Post by trojan on Nov 27, 2007 7:12:08 GMT -6
1. Brady definelty drew them offsides illegally, he bobbed his head, flashed his hands, and took a step backwards. I remember a MNF game when Elway pushed the limit and was finally called. Lots of discussion about how much a QB is allowed to do. I guess I don't really have a position on the legality of the movement, but I would like to see consistency in the calling (or not calling) of the penalty.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2007 7:22:45 GMT -6
Didn't see the play in question, but all NFL QBs now use the exaggerated head and shoulder movement on hard counts now. I remember I used to see it called with some regularity; now I can't remember the last time.
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Post by wingt74 on Nov 27, 2007 9:13:15 GMT -6
Didn't see the play in question, but all NFL QBs now use the exaggerated head and shoulder movement on hard counts now. I remember I used to see it called with some regularity; now I can't remember the last time. NFL's agenda is to increase scoring...so they quietly did away with the rule...or at least the emphasis on the rule. This rule, the "roughing the passer" stuff, the illegal contact downfield...it's no wonder the spread is going to take off in the NFL.
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