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Post by toddniklaus on Feb 4, 2008 10:25:42 GMT -6
What did you guys think of Belichick leaving early? I know it was only 2 seconds, but still did not seem right to me leaving his players out there by themselves.
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Post by mitch on Feb 4, 2008 10:53:03 GMT -6
Actions like that have really started turning me off on Belicheck throughout the season.
Great coach, but not very likeable.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 4, 2008 12:18:49 GMT -6
The clock had already hit 0:00...the field had already been taken by all of the media/fans/players....He had already congratulated the opposing coach ( a man he had worked with).
The blame here is on the clock operator. Had the clock not ticked off to 0:00, I assure you he would not have left the field.
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Post by airman on Feb 4, 2008 14:54:07 GMT -6
I am not a BB fan by any mean. However I am sure he was in a emotional state. going 18 and 1 is a hard loss. we all do things in the heat of the moment which we later regret.
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Post by ram7gm on Feb 4, 2008 15:49:44 GMT -6
For the sake of kids everywhere who saw that, I hope that he was in fact leaving because he saw 0:00 on the clock, not in some lewd act of poor sportsmanship because he was pissed off they lost. When I watched it at first, saw him walking towards Coughlin, the clock said :01. I was incredulous. You would think someone at that level would have slightly better sportsmanship.
It certainly led to some interesting conversations with my students today...
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Post by burtledog on Feb 4, 2008 15:55:59 GMT -6
I don't like BB at all. Not as nice a guy as his Dad. But, the clock should have stopped on 02 and the time keeper let it run. Then after the chaos broke out the refs had to put time back on. I think he should have stayed until his players left also, but I don't hold that against him at all. Now, if the taping other teams gets much deeper, then I may have a bone to pick with him. GB
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Post by brophy on Feb 4, 2008 16:01:19 GMT -6
Matt Walsh - if the guy signed a confidentiality agreement, then why peep up about 'known secrets' about something as insignificant as a WALK-THRU?
PS, this guy isn't freaking Jeffrey Wigand here.....his 'testimony' doesn't exactly change diddly-poo in the terms of what goes on in football preparation (competitive edge).
Sorry, the whole 'spy-gate' is too retarded of a discussion to be having, all because it is being exaggerated beyond rational proportions by sports reporters who have little knowledge of what they are writing about.
If Belichick didn't come out that early, the talking heads would be whispering how he disrespected Coughlin by waiting or not hugging him. There is no end to the depth of the critic, who has to sell a story.
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Post by knighter on Feb 4, 2008 16:14:33 GMT -6
I can guarantee that the Pats have gotten caught doing something that MANY other teams have done as well. Think about it....you thin other teams have not done the same exact things? You are fooling yourself.
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Post by ram7gm on Feb 4, 2008 16:39:18 GMT -6
That's what everyone keeps saying - "that everyone else is doing it, the pats just happened to get caught." But is that true? Are all teams really videotaping, or were they at least before the Pats got caught?
Sure, looking through binoculars is one thing. And that's not specifically against the rules, like using a video camera is. But do you think that every NFL team is doing it? No one else in the NFL (coaches, etc) seemed that shocked by any of this...
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Post by coachjoe3 on Feb 4, 2008 16:43:36 GMT -6
I can guarantee that the Pats have gotten caught doing something that MANY other teams have done as well. Think about it....you thin other teams have not done the same exact things? You are fooling yourself. Agreed, and although I don't think it's necessarily right, I also believe the coverage has gotten a little out of hand. Do any of you guys subscribe to the theory that if you don't want someone pickin' your signals, build a better code? Stealing my truck in the middle of the night is illegal, but that doesn't mean I'm good with leaving my keys in the ignition when I go to bed. I guess that's just my opinion, biased Pats fan that I am . . . All I have to say now is WHEN'S THE DRAFT?
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Post by ram7gm on Feb 4, 2008 17:21:28 GMT -6
Coachjoe - The draft is a little longer away for you, without that 1st round pick!
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Post by coachjoe3 on Feb 4, 2008 17:59:53 GMT -6
They have the 7th pick, from the 49ers. The league took away their original pick, which I guess was to be the 31st.
*Darth Vader spins away from the Death Star before it blows up, living to fight again another day!*
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Post by theprez98 on Feb 4, 2008 18:43:47 GMT -6
The referee, Ron Carey, tried very hard to get in BB's face as he ran out across the field. There was clearly 1 second remaining. I understand that BB was basically conceding the last second, but unfortunately for him he has no power to do that. Regardless of his true reason, the perception is that it comes across as being a poor loser.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 4, 2008 19:00:07 GMT -6
prez---the television clock (which is usually tied into the game clock) had CLEARLY run down 0:00. BB was not the only person on the field, tons of people thought it was over. I CAN easily see how someone in that situation could be oblivious to everyone telling them "hey, its not over" AND THEN..when they were informed saying...the heck with that..I didn't screw the clock up, YOU guys did.
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Post by theprez98 on Feb 5, 2008 12:29:02 GMT -6
prez---the television clock (which is usually tied into the game clock) had CLEARLY run down 0:00. BB was not the only person on the field, tons of people thought it was over. I CAN easily see how someone in that situation could be oblivious to everyone telling them "hey, its not over" AND THEN..when they were informed saying...the heck with that..I didn't screw the clock up, YOU guys did. I wish I had a TV capture, because I distinctly remember seeing 1 second remaining. Perhaps it went to zero and was put back to 1 second, but at least at some point 1 second was shown on the clock. BB completely ignored the ref who was trying to get in his face to tell him the situation. That is, plain and simple, disrespect for the officiating crew. Who cares about "tons of people who thought it was over"? Those tons of people don't decide when the game is over. The band in the Stanford/Cal game thought the game was over, but that didn't mean it was in fact over.
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