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Post by tog on Oct 8, 2005 10:47:22 GMT -6
this is something i like to do every year to see what others are playing with
here is mine, constantly changing though it may be due to injuries real and perceived and just plain not being very smart football players
LT- 6'1 190lbs-best athlete, best finisher, great cut blocker, good feet
LG-5'10 250lbs- best bruiser, can come off the ball, goes through people, gets head down on pass pro too much, technically unsound but improving
c-5'10 165 at most-quick as hell, good snapper, plays too high, but plays mean and with great effort, needs help sometimes with bigger guys up front at times due to size, but our offense neutralizes that to some degree
RG-5'10 185-smartest kid on the team, gets by on technique and effort, plays too high with not enough knee bend, but very good at positioning people and running with them, knee issues holding him back from being better
RT-6'0 230lbs-quick for size, not as physical or intense as should be, but learning how to be mean, good pass blocker
primary backup-6'1 250lbs-would be a starter somewhere but just cannot figure out where to go, trying to work him in some,but is just a liability with assignments
none are weightroom giants (yet) but they are all getting stronger right now, and are all jr's or less (being a new school, we have no seniors yet)
main thing we need is just more practice and more fundamentals to get things going with them
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Post by tog on Oct 8, 2005 10:47:45 GMT -6
now, what do you other guys have to play with?
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Post by phantom on Oct 8, 2005 16:00:25 GMT -6
LT- 5'11" 240 Good athlete and best fundamentally. Smart kid. LG- 6'3" 270 Junior. Great talent when he's sure but very inconsistent. Can be a great one. LG2- 6'3 300- Self-made player who transformed himself from a fat kid to a legit player. His inexperience leads to mistakes which is why he's only 1A. C- 5'11" 310 Just moved to center Very intelligent but a little lazy. He hasn't had the luxury of being lazy at center so he's been very good since the move. RG- 6'5" 320. Transfer who's kind of struggling with our up-tempo.,physical practices. Still, he's huge and quick for his size and really wants to be good. RT- 6'1 260. Best athlete on the OL.Smart kid and a good athlete.
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Post by ocinaz on Oct 8, 2005 16:37:35 GMT -6
LT=5'10"175-Used to be a seldom used fullback, also starts at outside LB for us. Last night was his first game on the line, did well, is the quickest lineman we have now, he's a junior. LG=5'10" 235-He's our anchor, senior 3 year starter, also starts at DT, loves lifting weights, the only one we have that plays for 4 quarters. C=5'8"170-Another newbie, another FB, starts at MLB also. Friday was his first game, played well, until he was blindsided on a 15 yard personal foul. Should do well, very strong for his size, and is very aggressive, soph. RG=6'3" 215-Used to be out TE, but with our line depleted, he wanted to make the switch, very quick, great feet, also starts at DE, senior. RT=6'1" 245-Great feet, kind of a softy right now, only plays O, soph, great technique, is getting stronger, personally I just don't think his nuts have dropped yet, kind of a momma's boy. **We only haev 25 Varsity players on Friday nights, we are a 3A school, of the 25 a lot our just JVers that would not be on most other teams, but we have to because we only have maybe 17, true varsity players. We are 4-2, and 2-2 in region play, having fun, just extremely stressful. I have anothre question for the board, I will ask separately.
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Post by coachjd on Oct 9, 2005 7:59:47 GMT -6
This season we have 2 types of OL kids. How we are winning is beyond me!!
Type 1 OL: Big and strong with very poor feet and cannot process anything on the move in space.
Type 2 OL: Very Small (165 lbs) and pretty athletic, but cannot bench press their wgt and shy away from the aggressive defenders.
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Post by toprowguy on Oct 9, 2005 14:31:14 GMT -6
LT - Jr. 6'4 300 3 yr starter, D1 kid, puts up huge numbers in the weightroom, still plays too high but gets away with it because of his strength, also a good wrestler.
LG - Sr. 5'8 230 1st yr starter, smart but very limited with physical ability but very hardworker, will be a great accountant some day.
C - Sr. 5'9 240 2 yr starter, athletic kid, but dips his head too much, very good with his snaps.
RG - 5'10 220 Sr. 1st yr starter, very good zone blocker but struggles with man on blocking.
RT - 6'3 250 Sr. 2 yr starter, very smart and understands the concepts of the offense which I can't say for the others, D1AA kid, coming back from a knee injury in the preseason.
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Post by goldenbear76 on Oct 10, 2005 11:58:21 GMT -6
Ok i'm coaching at a school with a population of 193 students, so I was impressed with the size of my line this year..
RT - 6-4 240 SR. - 2 yr starter - He's a specimen physically, he came from a bigger school where he was taught not to use his hands blocking..he held his forearms out and titty fought. That was tough to break that style. Not the brightest bulb though.
RG - 6-1 235 JR - 2 yr starter - This kid is an animal. The best lineman I have. He's mean, and tough. He was a state wrestling champ in Oregon last year as a sophmore. Not technically sound, i'm working on that.
C 5-11 190 Sr. - 1 yr starter - This kid is already signed up to go into the marine core following the end of school year. Enough said.
LG 6-1 220 Sr. - 2 yr starter - Crazy kid, focuses extremely well pre-game. Gets his pad level high more than I would like, but will outwork just about anyone. No quit in him. Struggles a lot facing "bigger" opponent.
LT 6-1 220 Sr. - 1 yr starter - My weakest link on my line, he runs well, but struggles blocking 2nd level defenders. He's not terrible, just...I'm glad he does well in school..football isn't his calling.
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Post by PowerDown on Oct 11, 2005 9:44:26 GMT -6
My O-Line at the moment
LT- 6'0 200 -SR - most aggressive lineman we have off the ball, knows the assignments for the most part. Took the job when a player was injured, also has filled in at guard.
LG 6'1 245 - SR- still waiting for him to completly flip the switch, right now he is slowly turning the dim lite on. A little slow on some of the pulls and a little hesitant off the ball against changing fronts.
C- 5'10 250 SR - Almost to the point of thinking too much, over complicates the blocking scheme at times. Other than that he is pretty solid off the ball and blocking .
RG- 5'9 245 JR - most consistent lineman , quick on the pulls and takes care of business when he gets there. Knows his assignments and stays low off the ball and gets good leverage.
RT- 6'3 280 SR- inconsistent at times but when he gets angry can take care of most of the players we face. Not a real solid pass blocker, not real flexible and doesn't have good balance on the punch.
I just took over this year wish I would have had another year with the Seniors, they have good size but their poor fundamentals hold them back. It has been a slow process but there is definite improvement not only in their technique but also understanding the blocking schemes. Years past there would have been more players going both ways but we really committed ourselves with the line to make them all one way to maximize practice reps and the learning curve. So far it has worked well, with our Dline, TNT's in the top six in tackles.
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Post by splitricky5 on Oct 11, 2005 10:50:56 GMT -6
RT- 210 lbs Bench- 225 RG- 200 lbs Bench- 215 C- 185 lbs Bench- 185 LG- 190 lbs Bench- 185 LT- 200 lbs Bench- 185 Give you two guesses how my year is going. I'm gonna get fired.
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Post by radar97 on Oct 12, 2005 10:18:09 GMT -6
AA school central texas 60 football players in high school 31 on varsity RT-SR 6'3 265 Is a three year starter preseason all state and is being recuirted by TCU, SMU, SHSU and SFA. He is a bit lazy at times in prcatice, but is a game player and he know it. He leads out o-line avgeraging 8 pancake blocks a week. He is a great finisher and love to put people on their back. RG-JR 5-10 195 This is a country strong kid. Good puller and you never have to take him out of the game. He is still not a good pass blocker, over aggressive, head down, weigth forward. He also sometime like to stay on the combo a little long and misses LB, but is great when going straigh to LB. C- JR- 6-0 180 This kid is quick and agrressive. Biggest suprise of the year for me, because I thought he was mentally week, but has been one of my better blockers. He can reach a three tech on toss one of the most amassing things i've seen. He pretty good since in JH he was a quaterback. LG-SR - 5-10 230 been playing this postion since week 6 of his freshmen year. Has ben injured some thius year, but he is a solid lineman. The kind you love to have in highschool, but too small to play at the next level. When he gets to the second and third level the defender is on the ground. he has great instinct for cut blocking. Last year he over ran a block and fell backwards and still cut the kid. I am going to try to make a training tape off of his cutblocks and see if I can tech my other lineman to cut like he does. LT- I have two player rotating at LT. 1st is a SO 5-10-200 strongest lineman I have love the weight room, has good feet, not very smart. He blows a lot of assignemnts and that is why I am rotating two. 2nd 6-2 320 FR. He is going to be a great one. He will be cuited by everybody if he can grow a few more inches the next few years. He good feet is going to be the freshmen classes validictorian(I love smart linemen). He will probably move to right tackle next year. I have another freshman that is playing JV right now that is 6'4 260. He is going to be good before it is all said and done, just not real agggressive right now.
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Post by ogie4 on Oct 26, 2005 12:24:22 GMT -6
Split tackle-6'1" 245 Big, slow feet, poor punch technique, but has a great attitude and fiery demeanor. Good Pass Protector
Split guard-5"10" 190 Great technique, good feet, but takes plays off. Good on the Boot,GT, and hog
Center-6'0" 210 Quick, strong, explosive, great under center snaps, shot gun snaps look like a bullet coming at the QB. has a nasty mean streak-Hard core tourettes case. Already ejected from one game this year. Side Note he is our back up, Starter blew out knee last spring and again this Summer. We was smaller, weaker, but could coach up the other guys, knew everyones assignment, great technique, you never could sneak a blitz by him. great pass protector.
Tight Guard 6'3 220 Smart, but asks stupid questions to piss me off and get a rise out of me. Poor pulling technique, but he finds away to get his body between the defender and runner every play. Consistent in making the big plays. He also has a nasty mean streak and plays dirty, which I sometimes condone because he is a natural team leader and gets the rest fired up. Knows his rules very well.
Tight Tackle 5'10" 210 Sharp as a bowling ball, has a hard time getting his hat on the right side of the defender, but plays with heart and determination on every play. Game planning is a night mare because he can't remember his rules and we start from scratch with him every week. Has trouble with the blitz, but he finishes his blocks.
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Post by brophy on Oct 26, 2005 12:35:16 GMT -6
LT- 6'4" 225 - biggest surprise this year. Real passive kid, not active in the weight room, but gets a body on defenders and knows his assignment probably the best of all the kids. We are right-side run oriented. Also the long snapper.
LG (FB) - 6'4" 299 / 330 - Iowa scholarship (guard) has played DL, LT, and fullback...good kid, great athlete, super smart guy...BIG difference when he's not in
LG- 5'6" 240 was the starting center....but needed here when the 300 pounder went down. Good laterally, but not much of an athlete, but can bench / squat his butt off.
C- 5'10" 180 really really soft kid. Didn't think he would start, but injuries forced him in. Good snapper and long snapper does what you ask but nothing spectacular. RG- 6'2" 270 - real lazy kid, can be aggressive but not normal. He plays here mainly to maul the 3 tech. Blows assignments quite a bit and is not real disciplined. We've spent the MOST time working with him out of all the kids.
RT- 6'4" 235 great athlete and good kid....can't bench his body weight, though. Basketball player who can work good in space, knows his assignments half the time, though he's real smart. His lack of explosion and strength hurt us here.
Our DLine looks like a handful of Carnies you'd find working the Tilt-O-Whirl...
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Post by ogie4 on Oct 26, 2005 12:43:27 GMT -6
LT- 6'4" 225 - biggest surprise this year. Real passive kid, not active in the weight room, but gets a body on defenders and knows his assignment probably the best of all the kids. We are right-side run oriented. Also the long snapper. LG (FB) - 6'4" 299 / 330 - Iowa scholarship (guard) has played DL, LT, and fullback...good kid, great athlete, super smart guy...BIG difference when he's not in LG- 5'6" 240 was the starting center....but needed here when the 300 pounder went down. Good laterally, but not much of an athlete, but can bench / squat his butt off. C- 5'10" 180 really really soft kid. Didn't think he would start, but injuries forced him in. Good snapper and long snapper does what you ask but nothing spectacular. RG- 6'2" 270 - real lazy kid, can be aggressive but not normal. He plays here mainly to maul the 3 tech. Blows assignments quite a bit and is not real disciplined. We've spent the MOST time working with him out of all the kids. RT- 6'4" 235 great athlete and good kid....can't bench his body weight, though. Basketball player who can work good in space, knows his assignments half the time, though he's real smart. His lack of explosion and strength hurt us here. Our DLine looks like a handful of Carnies you'd find working the Tilt-O-Whirl... Gotta Love them corn feed Northern boys.
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Post by tog on Oct 26, 2005 12:49:50 GMT -6
Our DLine looks like a handful of Carnies you'd find working the Tilt-O-Whirl... this is about the funniest thing i have ever read on a football board
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Post by brophy on Oct 26, 2005 12:56:38 GMT -6
Gotta Love them corn feed Northern boys. would'a figured you guys near the Mexican border would have some "pharmacuetical grade" boys on your roster....what gives?? we have four stunts in this year....it's the 9th week and these guys are trying to figure out "left" and "right"....needless to say, I do not have my back toward these kids too often.... There have been many times when I approach the huddle in practice to make a call, and see a bunch of dim lights and drool....Cripes!
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Post by ogie4 on Oct 26, 2005 13:05:29 GMT -6
Gotta Love them corn feed Northern boys. would'a figured you guys near the Mexican border would have some "pharmacuetical grade" boys on your roster....what gives?? Not really a big issue like most peole think it is. I grew up in MN and coached in ND and TX, I still believe the linemen are bigger, stronger, and meaner up north then down here. The small towns and rural areas are great places to look for linemen. Look at Div. 2 NCC teams and all those rams coming out of Iowa, Nebraska, SD, MN, WI, that are playing pro from small programs. they are big, smart, aggresive, and well coached. 5A teams in TX would love to have a lot of those kids.
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Post by tog on Oct 26, 2005 13:07:24 GMT -6
yeah
i'll trade you two legit running backs that run a legit 4.9 fortys for just one OL
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Post by brophy on Oct 26, 2005 13:17:17 GMT -6
...hey...we've got more kids that can run sub 4.9s (about a little over a half dozen 4.5 kids here) than we have that are decent big boys.....
our 'big boys' are pretty 'soft'.....
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Post by PowerDown on Oct 26, 2005 16:02:49 GMT -6
Are the carnival guys tough and nasty? If so I might be heading to some carnivals this summer.
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