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Post by spreadbone on Nov 8, 2007 17:37:50 GMT -6
i was wondering how much is talent a factor? possibly going 2 b a hc next yr and was wondering how much emphasis do u put on talent? i heard steve spurrier once say "win with what u got" and that has really stuck with me. in terms of being successful how many of u out there feel talent was the reason u were successful. how many would rather win with less talent? how important is overall talent to ur program?
reason im asking is im a big fan of the service acadamies, esp navy. im thinking of trying to run some of the same x's and o's stuff they do, but also run a very, very disciplined program. i think discipline is a very important factor to a football team, more so than talent imo. ive always been a stickler for discipline and im one that if u jump offsides in practice, u owe ur team so u will stay after and do extra running etc. the same thing goes for fumbling, fighting, personal fouls etc. is that too out of wack for hs football? i did it at the youth level and it worked there. i was just wondering out loud i guess, a lot on my mind wondering about being a hc next yr.
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Post by aztec on Nov 8, 2007 20:55:32 GMT -6
Talent will always help win more games. But at the HS level you can control many factors to help level the field.
#1 Off season weight program. Get big, Get strong, and work very hard.
#2 Scheme. We also like the academies programs. We are very complex on O and D and we try to control the clock and limit the other teams possessions. We have used the Air force stuff but have mixed that with the Willimett Fly and Carson Newsom Veer. I run a complex 3-3 multi front attack on D. We force team to be simple and do many things to create problems for a team preparing for us.
#3 Disciplined football- No turnovers smart play, no penalties, and things that will help you in the long run
This formula was in place long before I came to this school 12 years ago. Since the school opened only 3 time have they failed to make the playoffs. Many years the talent is down and others it is up but consistent play has happened year in and year out.
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Post by coachbdud on Nov 8, 2007 23:39:10 GMT -6
fundamentals way more important than talent, of course it helps though.
we have a talented team this year but have underachieved because of a lack of fundamentals. we dont tackle or block very well. doesnt matter that our skills can flat out fly if you cant block for them at all
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Post by coachcalande on Nov 9, 2007 4:42:12 GMT -6
i was wondering how much is talent a factor? possibly going 2 b a hc next yr and was wondering how much emphasis do u put on talent? i heard steve spurrier once say "win with what u got" and that has really stuck with me. in terms of being successful how many of u out there feel talent was the reason u were successful. how many would rather win with less talent? how important is overall talent to ur program? reason im asking is im a big fan of the service acadamies, esp navy. im thinking of trying to run some of the same x's and o's stuff they do, but also run a very, very disciplined program. i think discipline is a very important factor to a football team, more so than talent imo. ive always been a stickler for discipline and im one that if u jump offsides in practice, u owe ur team so u will stay after and do extra running etc. the same thing goes for fumbling, fighting, personal fouls etc. is that too out of wack for hs football? i did it at the youth level and it worked there. i was just wondering out loud i guess, a lot on my mind wondering about being a hc next yr. talent is nice to have, discipline is a must have. some of the biggest schools in our area are loaded with talent, low on discipline and in general arent very good. |
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Post by mike13 on Nov 9, 2007 8:34:36 GMT -6
Coach you have to have discipline but you don't have to be a hard a$$. I run a disciplined team, but I don't yell and scream all the time. Keep the rules simple and the punishment severe (John Wooden). As far as running the triple option good luck. Some QB's take to it and some don't. You have to have a smart and skilled QB. I've run the option for 3 years, split back veer and the flexbone veer. The biggest problem I've run into is some qb's will predetermine in their minds before the ball is snapped. Remember you must work on the qb/fb mesh everyday! If you get a chance to go Navy's coaching clinic this spring the coaches will be happy to show you anything you want. Good Luck.
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Post by brophy on Nov 9, 2007 9:07:49 GMT -6
I guess I'm a little confused.
How much control do you have over if you have talent enrolled or not?
Does a 'talented' player = an undisciplined player?
You have guidelines for conduct and performance, and either kids accept them or they don't. End of story.
Scheme adjusts to talent.
The coach that sits on 'talent', isn't a coach long.
That being said, I'd rather have 24 kids that do what I expect them to do over 11 kids that are the combine all-stars.
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