kdcoach
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Post by kdcoach on Apr 3, 2007 5:52:20 GMT -6
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Post by bearcat4life on Apr 3, 2007 10:03:54 GMT -6
Great Post
That puts a lot of things in prospective also as coaches how are we treating all of our players. We always talk "team" but we need to make sure that it's real in how we deal with all our players.
Your either part of the problem or part of the solution.
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Post by dubber on Apr 3, 2007 11:01:30 GMT -6
Good stuff.......I think the same thing can be perscribed to a TEAM that is suppose to win a ton of games.........underachievement is the result of ego-inflation
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Post by brophy on Apr 3, 2007 11:05:21 GMT -6
who the heck actually 'coaches' like the 'bad' examples they give?
Programs actually DO this?
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Post by splitricky5 on Apr 3, 2007 11:46:15 GMT -6
Bad: "Wow. You’re awesome. You’re so much better than the other kids, it’s not even funny."
Brophy,
I have sat in the back room and listened to our HC flat-out tell a player this. You would not believe what is said without thinking. If only all coaches read Season of Life and coached with their players best interest in mind!
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Post by phantom on Apr 3, 2007 11:52:29 GMT -6
Bad: "Wow. You’re awesome. You’re so much better than the other kids, it’s not even funny." Brophy, I have sat in the back room and listened to our HC flat-out tell a player this. You would not believe what is said without thinking. If only all coaches read Season of Life and coached with their players best interest in mind! Unbelievable.
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Post by ajreaper on Apr 3, 2007 12:31:01 GMT -6
I always tell my players/teams that often the biggest enemy of being great is already being good. To often we settle for where we are at and others are working their butts off in the background and we get passed up and often you do not even know it till it's to late.
And I really do not think they were saying high school coaches were guilty of the bad examples but rather parents and youth coaches- they would be most guilty of those examples.
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Post by touchdowng on Apr 3, 2007 18:59:22 GMT -6
Reap
reminds me of a saying that I heard about 15 years ago
"The easier it was to be good, the tougher it will be to become great"
At the time we had a run of athletes who were pretty good. The best one was the best one since 7th grade and had ALL of the tools. He's the only of the dozen, or so that never stepped foot on a collegiate field.
It's sad but true and we try to convey this message to kids at our summer camp and do everything we can to not provide mixed messages to our incoming 9th graders.
We've recently lost a good one because his Daddy thought he should have been playing at the varsity level as a 9th grader and we were not committed to this boys development. He would have been a sophomore starter at varsity but we didn't want to ruin the kid and bring him up too soon.
Good ridence (the Dad) but the victim here is the boy and he will most likely underachieve. I should send that article to his Dad.
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Post by coachcoyote on Apr 3, 2007 21:32:16 GMT -6
Good article. Unfortunately it is true of many athletes. They're good, but seldom reach their potential because some coaches/parents are willing to look the other way if the athlete is a "star". If it ain't broke , don't fix it syndrome. It may not be broken, it just isn't finished.
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Post by flycoach on Apr 4, 2007 3:18:10 GMT -6
Great Ending quote Coyote!
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Post by 3rdandlong on Apr 4, 2007 11:06:53 GMT -6
Very true Coyote. This article not only rings true for parents, but for coaches as well. Sometimes a coach will flatter the kid a little too much and although the kid may be a star at the high school level, he will suffer in the long run and he may be found 10 years later as Uncle Rico from Napolean Dynamite. "I could throw a pigskin over those mountains!"
Coaches coddle good players because they want to make them happy in order to get what they want out of them. This is a selfish act by coaches and we should all realize that the truly successful football programs develop boys to be great men. The wins are important, but not as important as the life long lessons that competition can create.
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Post by CVBears on Apr 4, 2007 11:55:51 GMT -6
who the heck actually 'coaches' like the 'bad' examples they give? Programs actually DO this? YES!!! Our "star" athlete, that got "offers on the spot" from Huge State U. and U. of Awesome Program after "winning" a combine, routinely left practice early or showed up late, took reps off, didn't work at full speed, missed practice altogether, pouted on the sideline when the opposing D was shutting him down (back up was injured to boot, so the 3rd and 4th string got his reps in a close game) etc., etc. He has tons of talent that has not formed into ability. What he doesn't have is a scholarship to Huge State U. or U. of Awesome Program because, not only the lack of developing ability, but his SAT scores aren't anywhere close passing NCAA clearinghouse. Every year we have at least one, but usually three or four kids that fall into this category. It really makes me wonder what would happen if these kids had a coach that could instill discipline in them along with academic skills. (On a side note, when confronted with these issues, the HC always has an excuse or says, "these kids are going to do what they do no matter what. We can't help them.")
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Post by ajreaper on Apr 4, 2007 12:35:02 GMT -6
You can never save them all from themselves but you can occassionally save one- but you have to make the effort. LOL, it's like being a salesman- you get the door slammed in your face more often then not but it's the price you pay for every sale you do make.
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Post by airman on Apr 4, 2007 19:38:33 GMT -6
good article. just like lombardi said, treat them all like dogs and you do not have problems.
no player is unexpendable.
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Post by redfish on Apr 4, 2007 21:55:48 GMT -6
The problem is multiplied by Rivals and Scout. We have a joke on our staff that the internet is the devil. I've heard more than one coach, HS and college, say scouting sites are doing as much harm as good.
My HC says this to the kids, "Publicity is like poison, if you don't swallow it, it can't hurt you."
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Post by coachjoe3 on Apr 5, 2007 14:41:53 GMT -6
I always tell my players/teams that often the biggest enemy of being great is already being good. "The easier it was to be good, the tougher it will be to become great" Good sayings, guys. It helps keep things in perspective if we as coaches can stress them enough to the players. Always forward.
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Post by brophy on Apr 5, 2007 14:50:29 GMT -6
The problem is multiplied by Rivals and Scout. ; that is a real good point, because no matter what your standards are in your program the seeds planted by the instant-access media (message boards) can really wreck immature athletes. I mean, these 16-17 year old kids are deluding themselves with snowball logic of message boards, ESPN, Playstation game simulations, etc....... I can't fault them, but with all the ridiculous stimuli with little 'control' (reality) it gets real easy for that 5'7" 180lbs LB to think he's DI material .........ESPECIALLY when these kids see their peers getting drafted by MLB clubs or getting NBA / CBA deals.
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Post by phantom on Apr 5, 2007 15:00:39 GMT -6
Just do everything possible to keep the AAU out of football. The smoke that football players get blown up their butts is nothing compared to what the AAUers give b-ball players. We just had somebody tell us that our 8th grade JV DE is the 10th best 8th grade power forward in the country.
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