I came to this forum to look at what coaches do, think, and learn the multiple aspects of the game.
I'm currently an Engineering major (about to get a math minor as well) and recently I tried out for the Texas Tech Football Team. I did not make it however I have had the respect from the football team. Each player I met has had the biggest respect for me and a lot of the coaches like me. Last Friday I went in to meet with the recruiting coach because he wanted to talk to me. He offered me a job to be a student coach for the team. He told me to think about it over break. I've been training and still want to tryout and make the team however, this is an oppurtunity that I always wanted to have.
Question is: What things do you think the coaches will have me do 1st off? 2nd what should I expect the boundries will be such as will I be evolved in heping the coaches do drills...
The biggest things are what is expected for me to do... I want to help this team build up to win the Big 12 South, the conference and set up an oppurtunity to compete for a BCS Title Game.
Hell yes! Do whatever they tell you, be on time, work hard, take nothing for granted. Some coaches (who want to caoch D1 college) never get this break. You are so lucky! Learn from a master and get serious coaching creds.
This is how a guy like Lawerance Frank ends up coaching in the NBA.
2nd what should I expect the boundries will be such as will I be evolved in heping the coaches do drills...
Trust me, they'll tell you
BTW, I hope you don't mind hours of mindlessly entering data into a computer or other menial tasks..............I'd love it! I'd sleep where Rudy slept to be a part of something like that!
Post by coachcoyote on Mar 12, 2007 23:28:14 GMT -6
Some guys wait a lifetime for this opportunity. You can play a few years, but can coach forever. If this passes you by, chances are it won't happen again. Life is choices, some time difficult ones. Welcome to the real world.
If it were me, I would do it in a heartbeat. BYA and go above and beyond of what is asked of you. While I am sure it is hard to hang up the cleats, at least you went out on your own terms. You hung it all out there, earned others respect, and now it is time to move on to the next best thing.
"There is nineteen thousand fans in the stands and they can't do what you're doing, and they're all cheering for one thing, they're cheering for you. Man, that's a high no drug or booze or woman can give you" --Jerrod Mcdougal in Friday Night Lights (the book)
I'm with the other guys, take this opportunity. It is a chance of a lifetime IMO.
Job responsibilities will be a lot of what they don't want to do. Enter data, compile recruiting data, recruiting mail, video, help set up drills for asst coaches, etc.... they may even ask you to make coffee! These are all things I had to do when I was a GA.
roll up your sleeves and get arm pit deep in it...good luck and congrats.
"We've been looking for the enemy for several days now, we've finally found them. We're surrounded. That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them." Colonel Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller during the Chosin Reservoir campaign in Korea, November 1950
I think it is a once and a lifetime opportunity. My only reserve would be your major. What do you aspire to be when you get your degree? A college coach? or engineer in the private sector? They both have tremendous drawbacks but also tremendous advantages. If you take the advice offered by others and bust your butt for the rest of your years in college, that will only make your more marketable as you'll have the support of a very respected coach in Mike Leach. But if you go into it half-assed, it can hurt you on both fronts, academics and coaching. I know if I were in your shoes, I would change my major (probably keep the math minor) and begin my college coaching career.... but that's me.
go do it dline after talking with you for over a year or so now I know you will do good just do what they want don't be afraid to ask questions if you don't get how to do something just try and pick the best times to ask the questions (maybe not in a giant group setting) sounds like the guy that is offering this job to you would be a good mentor and sees something in you
Jump on it....Don't even think twice about it. The coaches will tell you what to do, but be a sponge and absorb all the information you can. This is a great opportunity.
I would tell the coach I will do whatever you want me to do whenever you want me to do it. Only good things will happen if you work harder than the next guy. Many, many quality DI and pro coaches started out exactly like this. The more you show you are willing to do (and I mean the jobs nobody else wants to do) the more responsibilities you will get. Good Luck!
here is my advice, your attitude now, will determine your future.
let me explain. if they give you crap jobs, do them with a smile. why I say this is simple, each task they give you is a test. you pass one test, then another. when you graduate, you have the chance I bet to be a grad assistant or you have several D1A coaches who can write a letter on your behalf.
as I say, your attitude towards what ever they give you will dictate your success in the future.
we are the sum total of the choices we make in life.
Post by spreadattack on Mar 13, 2007 15:15:22 GMT -6
If you want to pursue a coaching career--or any career in football-- this is the biggest no-brainer I've ever heard. You might end up doing crap, but constantly ask for more responsibility. The bottom line is about 50% will be what you learn and another 50% will be the credential. Both are quite important.
BUT, if you honestly think your future lies with engineering and math, which is a fair decision, then your future employer won't care if you volunteered for Tech (unless he's a Red Raider fan, so maybe it could help even then). Apparently you'd already made this decision by trying to walk on.
But you seem to be focused on coaching, so do it. Don't hesitate. And immerse yourself in it. Biggest thing is be a pleasure to be around and do everything diligently and you will be a success.
The only reason not to is if you are serious about your engineering path rather than a football career. A playing career is not the right response, considering that, no offense, you won't be going pro. At most, by making the squad you would get another season of two where you will learn a lot of good lessons, but will not have as much to show for it as if you took the assistant gig.
Last Edit: Mar 13, 2007 15:31:17 GMT -6 by spreadattack
Engineering is a killer major... you need to focus on your studies!
Who am I kidding! Son, if you were going to play and be an engineering major, than you certainly can be an assistants assistant and be an engineering major... Prioritize, and be responsible, and it will all work itself out in the end.
It sounds like you'll be successful no matter what you choose, you seem like a bright guy. Whatever you choose, you do it at 100 MPH, 100% of the time . . .
I think it was Bear Bryant who said about coaching, "Don't do it, unless you can't live without it." Something like that.
If you can't live without it, jump at this chance and strike while the iron's hot!
If you can live without it, focus on your studies, engineering and math are great areas to get into. And that's not to say you can't get into coaching at some level down the line.
If you can do both study and coach, awesome! Make time management - and maybe coffee, your best friends.
Good luck DlLine06, let us know how it goes when you get back from break!
TAKE IT! I got a similiar gig at Ball State...got to travel all over the country and got tons of learning experience. Not alot of coaching experience. I held up scout cards, helped the GA with scouting reports, charted plays during games (to name a few). I'm sure you will get some sweet gear
Post by coachd5085 on Mar 13, 2007 20:20:40 GMT -6
Just a few comments- First things first..I keep reading "chance of a lifetime" That really isn't the case. In fact, almost anyone interested in being an undergrad student asst can do it. Free (and unlegislated--unlike GA's and asst coaches) labor.
Second... do you want to coach? You say this is an opportunity you always wanted to have, yet you are studying engineering. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, (in fact, it probably shows you are to smart to be dumb enough to go into this profession) BUT it isn't really the choice of someone who "has always wanted the opportunity to coach" Just being honest here.
What class are you? Does DLine06 mean you are a Freshman? If so, then I would disregard the previous paragraph about majors. Freshman have no clue what they want to major in, so that is not an issue. If you already have 90+ college credits... well, that makes things a bit different.
Job tasks. Don't expect ANYTHING glorious. They might want you to film practice. You might be 100% data entry...and not even be around the players. You might be a copy boy:) YOu might also get lucky, impress some people, and get something going. Might be a great foot in the door opportunity to learn about tempo, practice procedures, TEACHING the game etc.
“As to methods there may be a million and then some, but principles are few. The man who grasps principles can successfully select his own methods. The man who tries methods, ignoring principles, is sure to have trouble.”-- ---Ralph Waldo Emerson apparently would have been a great football coach!
Right now I'm a freshman. I'm a petroleum engineering major. Right now the oil industry is booming but my dad has always told me the amount of engineers from my same major that had to be let go when the oil industry fell on the decline before it boomed again.
According to my understanding, a minor in math (esp. with the engineering) makes you elligible to teach high school math plus the combination of this job might lead me to stay the same route, graduate and now I have a second option. Currently I have a 3.0 GPA however it's getting really hard with Calculus 2 and Physics 1 on my plate this semester.
As far as the job, supposively I'm being paid and the recruiting coach mentioned I'll follow around and start seeing the program and might get even more importance due to the team. I'm really anxious to get back to Tech and find out exactly what I'll be doing. I do know I will be on the sidelines watching the game at home along with the traveling to away games.
Is smart to ask if I can ask the coach to allow me to view all aspects of the game?
Is smart to ask if I can ask the coach to allow me to view all aspects of the game?
I don't think anyone will really tear your head off, but maybe learn to crawl before you can walk . . . get back after break, find out what you'll be doing with the program and do it well. Take the rest as it comes.
Maybe you change majors, maybe not. Maybe you teach high school math maybe not. Your whole life doesn't have to be decided right this second. Take it as it comes and do your best at whatever your doing.
AND spend the rest of your spring break relaxing! Don't worry about it now, all the decisions will be there when you get back.
Post by coachd5085 on Mar 14, 2007 12:25:11 GMT -6
Ok, if you are a freshman..I wouldn't worry much about being a Engineering major. There is a likely chance that you would change that regardless of football.
Now, I wouldn't go into this necessarily with the idea of falling back and teaching high school math. Having a minor in math would not allow you to teach in many districts unless you were pursuing certification (got to get that education background in there...the teaching of the numbers, not just the numbers)
It is a pretty good opportunity for the right candidate. This is how you get the big jobs..of course there is always the very good possibility that you will work your butt off and absolutely nothing will come from it.
“As to methods there may be a million and then some, but principles are few. The man who grasps principles can successfully select his own methods. The man who tries methods, ignoring principles, is sure to have trouble.”-- ---Ralph Waldo Emerson apparently would have been a great football coach!