choprip
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Post by choprip on Nov 11, 2024 8:16:40 GMT -6
What factors do you think most commonly go into a major upset?
Let's say the favorite is stacked with talent. Both schools are in the largest classification in their state, but one has Division 1 prospects up and down the lineup, and the other has a handful of kids who will play at the Division 2 level.
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Post by powercounterandjet on Nov 11, 2024 8:24:31 GMT -6
Turnovers
Explosives
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Post by planck on Nov 11, 2024 9:17:28 GMT -6
Turnovers
Limiting possessions
Don't give a better team a bunch of chances to score
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 11, 2024 9:26:11 GMT -6
Turnovers
Game planning
Belief
Complacency
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Post by chi5hi on Nov 11, 2024 12:02:30 GMT -6
What factors do you think most commonly go into a major upset? Let's say the favorite is stacked with talent. Both schools are in the largest classification in their state, but one has Division 1 prospects up and down the lineup, and the other has a handful of kids who will play at the Division 2 level. Most common? An attitude of not being serious. The guys thinking that all they need to do is to throw their jockstrap out onto the 50 yard line and the opponent will start quaking in his boots. |
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Post by fantom on Nov 11, 2024 12:21:50 GMT -6
I once heard, and I believe, that to have an upset the "better" team has to cooperate. I think the replies given so far bear that out. You need penalties, turnovers, mental errors and lackluster play. I didn't say "lazy" or "complacent" because it might not even be that. They may just be "off", trying hard but not making plays that they normally would.
That's not just players, either. Coaches could be guilty too.
The fact is if they play their best and you play your best they win. You have no control over how they play. If you're the "lesser" team all that you can do is have a good game plan and have the players focused and ready to give your best effort.
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Post by Defcord on Nov 11, 2024 13:32:47 GMT -6
Playing on a weird night of the week, injury of a player, playing a team after they have a huge win the previous week.
Also, Finding something they can’t stop or adjust to and making them pay all night for it. I saw a team a few years back take on and beat a team that was a regular state contender. The lesser team was definitely way lesser in talent. But they had tough kids and they ran belly basically every play. The other team hadn’t seen it in their schedule all year and clearly couldn’t stop it. They didn’t make any adjustments except for alignment in trying to stop it either.
We played the team that got upset in the playoffs and had considered putting in belly but we hadn’t ran it all year so stuck with what we did. We got beat soundly.
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Post by bobgoodman on Nov 12, 2024 6:48:21 GMT -6
Something in the record of either or both teams that made you think they were better, or worse, than they actually are. Factors in their record that you could've known about, but didn't.
For instance, one team might've had good players you didn't know about who'd been sitting out an academic suspension.
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Post by blb on Nov 17, 2024 7:08:53 GMT -6
Woody Hayes said "Defense wins the upsets."
That was a different time in Football, don't know with the rules the way they are now if that still holds true.
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Post by planck on Nov 17, 2024 12:16:52 GMT -6
Persistently bad officiating across an entire game.
Don't ask me how I found out.
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Post by bignose on Nov 17, 2024 12:26:25 GMT -6
turnovers
self inflicted errors
clock management
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Post by MICoach on Nov 20, 2024 8:59:51 GMT -6
In a schematic sense I think the most common thing is the team doing the "upsetting" identifying some sort of weakness or tell that the team being upset is not protecting...could be their worst OL/DL, worst secondary player, formational tells, etc.
In a more qualitative sense I think riding momentum goes a long way - good teams that are used to winning can sometimes lose their cool when they're challenged more than they expected to be.
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